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The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.
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6. March 2009 @ 15:13 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
I tried a 10 minute sample... typical recode. It worked just fine, I will start the whole thing soon.
Ryu77 Ultra High quality = 24 hour recode on a Quad core !!! Holy cow.
Really? Ultra High quality shouldn't take that long. My Q6600 OC'd to 3.0Ghz typically takes about 12 - 14 hours on that profile. The Insane Quality profile should take at least 24 hours though... Which is why you need to be insane to use it.
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6. March 2009 @ 15:43 |
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LOL, insane. Well, here's the details on my 2.4GHz quadcore.
HDDVD VC-1 to h264 (Ryu77 AVCHD Ultra High Quality)
143041 frames
Runtime: 1hr 40min
1st Pass Avg: 8.5fps
2nd Pass Avg: 2.5fps - still running at the moment.
Priority: Low
Total recode time: Approx encode time should be 21 hours... (still encoding at the moment).
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8. March 2009 @ 03:04 |
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Try using my iMac 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. When I got my computer I thought man it's gonna be fast and truth be told it was/is. However Ryu's profiles have quite the way of humbling processors. You quad core guys are concerned about your encoding times huh? Try a minimum of 24 hours encoding time for any length film using Ryu's "High Quality" profile. Of course this could be perhaps I believe when I launch of activity monitor it's only using one of my processors to encode. But I am not sure. I just know when I am encoding in Parallels running Windows XP, the mac side of my computer experiences no noticeable slowdowns. But the point of this post is, appreciate those quad-core machines guys, you could be stuck on a machine such as myself.
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9. March 2009 @ 12:20 |
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Hi friends.. i give you what a very.very got post for me about MEgui..
But what about MEGui witch is the latest MEGui ....3014 or 3018 I have the 3001 of yours making RYU.. and is 3014-3018 one of your doings..
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9. March 2009 @ 14:34 |
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Hi again have now installed and unstalled latest builds 1014,1016,1018
and the same result stops to do anything after pressing start, i reinstalled 1006 to see if its better...it worked before..
cheers.
Vista Ultima 32 C2D E675 4GB Ram 2,5TB HD
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9. March 2009 @ 14:42 |
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Originally posted by harnarn:
Hi again have now installed and unstalled latest builds 1014,1016,1018
and the same result stops to do anything after pressing start, i reinstalled 1006 to see if its better...it worked before..
cheers.
Vista Ultima 32 C2D E675 4GB Ram 2,5TB HD
The thing about bitrate calculator it always updated the x264 profile with 37500 in bitrate pretty much for a standar BD i think, i want it to be a dvd5 bitrate..
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9. March 2009 @ 17:37 |
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Originally posted by harnarn:
Originally posted by harnarn:
Hi again have now installed and unstalled latest builds 1014,1016,1018
and the same result stops to do anything after pressing start, i reinstalled 1006 to see if its better...it worked before..
cheers.
Vista Ultima 32 C2D E675 4GB Ram 2,5TB HD
The thing about bitrate calculator it always updated the x264 profile with 37500 in bitrate pretty much for a standar BD i think, i want it to be a dvd5 bitrate..
Next thing cant use AvsScritpcreator after doing that is mentioned in Ryu pdf guide ( btw superb up to day, have work like a clock)..
Error:
Error avs
Fatal error
I will try to go back to a restorepoint 3days ago and see what happen..
If anybody have a clue ..please feel fre to add one..
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12. March 2009 @ 10:29 |
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Is everything ok now harnarn, or are you still having trouble?
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12. March 2009 @ 10:57 |
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12. March 2009 @ 11:13 |
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Hey Ryu ..
I did have some kind same problem for 48hours..
I'v reinstalled and uninstalled different builds like 3001,3004,3014, bla,bla
Uninstalled and reinstalled K-Lite Codec Pack latest..
---,,---,,----AviSynth 2.5
and on and on different errors all the time , not able to red with avscreator
Avs error
Not encoding:
No encode only time goes
Bitrate Calculator add its own nubers and times:
Bitrate calculator
Avs Synth not able to render:
Avs synth error 2
MeGui called it of four the day:
Me Gui fatal error
And so it went on and on..
I gave up and uninstalled MeGUI and AviSynth and net.Framework 1.1/ sp1 update and K-Lite Codec Pack.
But i didn't want to go in bed without a final try....
Installed first net.Framework 3,5 sp1
AviSynth 2.5.8 i think , the latest build
K-Lite Codec Pack latest build
and MeGui 0.3.1.1020
and loaded avsfile..no protest
loaded mkv file ....no protest
configured it ( mkv preset)
en queued it and start encode,
Like a clock it started up after 48 hours of headache
i don't knew what i did right but it was able to encode during night and give a output in right format..
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Only on thing left i have to go in to process manager to stop MeGui runing in the background , but newer mind it works to encode with it..
The thing i can see in MeGui logfile is what net.Framework 3,5 sp1 includes 2.0
[Information] Log
-[Information] Versions
--[NoImage] MeGUI Version : 0.3.1.1020
--[NoImage] OS : Windows Vista Ultimate Edition x86 SP1
--[NoImage] Framework used : 2.0 SP1 (2.0.50727.3074)
-[Information] Hardware
--[NoImage] CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz
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13. March 2009 @ 12:47 |
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Here's something interesting I stumbled on to... Last night while half way through the second pass on a recode my PC was shut down on accident. After the reboot I was able to start the second pass over again bypassing the first pass... and the first pass' status was still "done", second pass's status was "waiting".
The recode has finished and the results are what I expected them to be... amazing.
FYI Ryu77, I used your High profile at about 6.5-7mb/s... I know you reccomended using Ultra for anything lower than 8mb/s... but the results are still pretty phenomenal.
EDIT: Once rebooted I'm pretty sure MeGUI automatically launched... I cannot remember for sure though.
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15. March 2009 @ 12:35 |
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Looks like as of a few revisions ago MeGUI now uses EAC3TO and HDBDstreamExtractor. I'd give it a whirl but I'm encoding right now.
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15. March 2009 @ 13:04 |
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16. March 2009 @ 14:27 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Looks like as of a few revisions ago MeGUI now uses EAC3TO and HDBDstreamExtractor. I'd give it a whirl but I'm encoding right now.
I just tried this... it works great... easy to use. Eac3to is used for demuxing, even a log is created so you can see how everything went down... once it is complete.
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16. March 2009 @ 14:42 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by odin24:
I tried a 10 minute sample... typical recode. It worked just fine, I will start the whole thing soon.
Ryu77 Ultra High quality = 24 hour recode on a Quad core !!! Holy cow.
Really? Ultra High quality shouldn't take that long. My Q6600 OC'd to 3.0Ghz typically takes about 12 - 14 hours on that profile. The Insane Quality profile should take at least 24 hours though... Which is why you need to be insane to use it.
I tried MeGUI and it said it was was going to take 3 days to do a standard blu-ray encode that normally takes 20 hours using TMPGEnc Express 4.0!
Because of this I'm back to TMPGEnc which is a shame as I hear good things about MeGUI.
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16. March 2009 @ 14:52 |
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Is there anything else besides BDrebuilder to encode Blu Ray disk?
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17. March 2009 @ 19:08 |
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Originally posted by lionelb:
I tried MeGUI and it said it was was going to take 3 days to do a standard blu-ray encode that normally takes 20 hours using TMPGEnc Express 4.0!
Because of this I'm back to TMPGEnc which is a shame as I hear good things about MeGUI.
MeGUI can also be calibrated to encode at the same speed as TMPGEnc XPress 4.0 but the quality of MeGUI + x264 is far superior. If you like I can set-up a faster profile for MeGUI/x264 and upload it for you.
What encoder and output settings are you using with TMPGEnc? You are using the Main Concept AVC encoder, right?
Originally posted by proxpilot:
Is there anything else besides BDrebuilder to encode Blu Ray disk?
Is this a trick question?
How about MeGUI, RipBot264, Nero Recode, TMPGEnc XPress 4.0... etc. All of which have been discussed on this thread. For download links visit the first page of this thread.
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17. March 2009 @ 19:13 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by odin24:
Looks like as of a few revisions ago MeGUI now uses EAC3TO and HDBDstreamExtractor. I'd give it a whirl but I'm encoding right now.
I just tried this... it works great... easy to use. Eac3to is used for demuxing, even a log is created so you can see how everything went down... once it is complete.
It would be better if MeGUI could utilise EAC3to's decoding/encoding facilities. I am sure this will come with time also. At least I don't need to worry about updating EAC3to manually for the HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor anymore. :)
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17. March 2009 @ 19:23 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
It would be better if MeGUI could utilise EAC3to's decoding/encoding facilities. I am sure this will come with time also. At least I don't need to worry about updating EAC3to manually for the HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor anymore. :)
It does utilize decoding/encoding... as long as you have the proper filters/encoders installed. I just did a HDDVD to BD convert, I used MeGUI to demux... Nero was used for the E-AC3 decoding... and Aften for the encoding.
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18. March 2009 @ 09:16 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by Ryu77:
It would be better if MeGUI could utilise EAC3to's decoding/encoding facilities. I am sure this will come with time also. At least I don't need to worry about updating EAC3to manually for the HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor anymore. :)
It does utilize decoding/encoding... as long as you have the proper filters/encoders installed. I just did a HDDVD to BD convert, I used MeGUI to demux... Nero was used for the E-AC3 decoding... and Aften for the encoding.
Oh, I didn't even bother trying... Have you tried DTS encoding yet? Can it call on the Surcode DTS encoder for DTS encoding?
Knowing me, I will still probably do everything manually. I have trust issues! :-P
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18. March 2009 @ 14:49 |
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Arcsoft is automatically called upon... however one thing I found interesting. When demuxing a DTS HD-MA track you have option... about 10 different audio formats to demux/transcode to, two of them being DTSHD and DTS... both of which had the same effect; demuxed the DTS HD-MA track... doh!
So I then tried transcoding the BD structure to AC3, that worked... Arcsoft called. But I'm not satisfied yet... I want DTS @ 1536kb/s.
There is a field next to the "Extract As" column called "Options"... with no options! I figured out you must double click and enter whatever switches you need, i.e. -1536 for DTS legacy... so a noob friendly app has become an "intermediate eac3to experience required" app... you need to know eac3to and a few of it's basic switches. Once I did that the whole process started... extract to wavs... Surcode called... and away we go! I haven't got this far yet, but I have a feeling the "Zero Padding" will still need to be removed... it cannot be done with MeGUI though... it only takes Structures or m2ts/evo files as input, not raw streams.
Somehow I believe the MeGUI developer will include some switches in the near future, and possibly raw streams as inputs.
EDIT: Yup, the zero padding still needs removing.
Here's the DTSHD to DTS conversion log using MeGUI/eac3to... for your own reassurance :) I think you can trust MeGUI and eac3to, now the best pair since peanut butter & jam... or peas and carrots ;) It's the same thing for demuxing... exactly like you'd normally see working with eac3to CLI, and a eac3to log is always created in the working folder.
Originally posted by eac3to log:
eac3to v3.14
command line: "C:\Program Files\MeGUIv3\tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "C:\Videos\MovieFolder\AVCHD" 1) 3:"C:\Videos\MovieFolder\F1_T3_Audio - Swedish.dts" -1536 -progressnumbers
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M2TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 1 subtitle track, 1:54:36, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 16 chapters
2: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS Master Audio, Swedish, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
4: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
5: Subtitle (PGS), English
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a03] Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder...
[a03] Writing WAVs...
[a03] Creating file "C:\Videos\Let The Right One In\F1_T3_Audio - Swedish.LFE.wav"...
[a03] Creating file "C:\Videos\Let The Right One In\F1_T3_Audio - Swedish.SL.wav"...
[a03] Creating file "C:\Videos\Let The Right One In\F1_T3_Audio - Swedish.L.wav"...
[a03] Creating file "C:\Videos\Let The Right One In\F1_T3_Audio - Swedish.C.wav"...
[a03] Creating file "C:\Videos\Let The Right One In\F1_T3_Audio - Swedish.SR.wav"...
[a03] Creating file "C:\Videos\Let The Right One In\F1_T3_Audio - Swedish.R.wav"...
[a03] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 16 bits.
Encoding DTS <1536kbps> with Surcode...
Found Surcode DTS Encoder version 1.0.21.0.
Surcode encoding successfully started. Please wait...
Closing Surcode...
Video track 2 contains 164857 frames.
eac3to processing took 11 minutes, 44 seconds.
Surcode encoding took 18 minutes, 21 seconds.
Done.
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18. March 2009 @ 18:26 |
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18. March 2009 @ 18:44 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Ok, this zero padding thing is something that I have forgotten about...
What exactly is it again? I always leave the DTS fils as is, with the 1536 Kbit/s. From what I remember the zero padding takes up the extra 768 Kbit/s. Is that right? Can that really be true?
Also, I am getting information that only 26 Kbit/s is padding (leaving a DTS track at 1510 Kbit/s)...
Now I am confused. That's why I have always left them as is. Saving 26 Kbit/s really doesn't bother me.
The zero padding is ~26 kb/s... which makes sense, some DTS tracks I see at 1536k, some @ 1509k. Anyway, in order to make tsMuxeR compatible DTS tracks zero padding need to be removed... which MeGUI cannot handle yet. Another way I found... before I knew that eac3to can do this, I used to mux the DTS track to mka, then demux which worked as well.
eac3to CLI:
eac3to c:\audio.dts c:\audio_fixed.dts
I don't think the fixed output must be *_fixed.dts, just something different than the input track.
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19. March 2009 @ 10:05 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by Ryu77:
Ok, this zero padding thing is something that I have forgotten about...
What exactly is it again? I always leave the DTS fils as is, with the 1536 Kbit/s. From what I remember the zero padding takes up the extra 768 Kbit/s. Is that right? Can that really be true?
Also, I am getting information that only 26 Kbit/s is padding (leaving a DTS track at 1510 Kbit/s)...
Now I am confused. That's why I have always left them as is. Saving 26 Kbit/s really doesn't bother me.
The zero padding is ~26 kb/s... which makes sense, some DTS tracks I see at 1536k, some @ 1509k. Anyway, in order to make tsMuxeR compatible DTS tracks zero padding need to be removed... which MeGUI cannot handle yet. Another way I found... before I knew that eac3to can do this, I used to mux the DTS track to mka, then demux which worked as well.
eac3to CLI:
eac3to c:\audio.dts c:\audio_fixed.dts
I don't think the fixed output must be *_fixed.dts, just something different than the input track.
After I read a couple posts over at Doom9, it refreshed my memory about zero padding again which is why I edited my previous post. 1509 Kbit/s is the bitrate without the zero padding.
Yes, you are right. The output DTS file can be anything other than the original file name.
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21. March 2009 @ 18:29 |
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Ryu77,
Thanks for your great encode profiles: I would be lost without them.
What would be the highest bitrate, using your *BD5/BD9 good quality profile, to encode an older BD movie (mid-1980s & earlier) to at 720P? I'm asking as I have a relatively slow machine & the full 1080P encodes just take take a loooong time. Will still use them for newer movies. Thanks.
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