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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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15. August 2006 @ 07:51 |
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A bus speed multiplier? That's unfamiliar ground for me, I've not heard of such a thing, unless you mean a processor speed. A BIOS update may be available but having 1.25GB of RAM, a spartan power supply, and an ECS motherboard are ALL weak points for stability and would limit how far you can go with an overclock.
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charb
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15. August 2006 @ 18:10 |
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dam...lol, so basacaly i should wait unil i have enough and buy a comp wih all flagship parts so that i can begin some serious overclocking...ok
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i know my comp getto, but thats why i'm trying to gain as much juice as i can; i dont feal like buying now, maby after vista
MY DREAM IS TO HIT 10GHZ!!!
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Intel Pentium 4 2.oGhz(OC to 2.2)
1G of RAM
250G Maxtor harddrive
ATI Radion X700Pro 256GDDR3(OC from 424/432to501/462)
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ECS P4M800PRO-M478 motherboard
ALL IN A IBM NETVISTA CASE!!!
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16. August 2006 @ 00:21 |
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If you removed the 256MB stick of RAM and just left it at 1GB you'd do better in terms of overclocking performance, but that PSU and motherboard just don't lend themselves to overclocking.
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charb
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16. August 2006 @ 06:00 |
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Yes my friend, i removed the 256mb ram stick and it allowed me to overclock the 1g ram stick to 533 from 400. i'm probably going to get some of that duel chanel DDR ram, for better performance and overclocing next time i c some on sale. thanx alot
MY DREAM IS TO HIT 10GHZ!!!
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Intel Pentium 4 2.oGhz(OC to 2.2)
1G of RAM
250G Maxtor harddrive
ATI Radion X700Pro 256GDDR3(OC from 424/432to501/462)
400Watt Spartan
ECS P4M800PRO-M478 motherboard
ALL IN A IBM NETVISTA CASE!!!
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16. August 2006 @ 06:02 |
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Precisely, you really need Dual channel RAM for good overclocks. 33% is pretty good considering what you have, well done.
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s3a
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16. August 2006 @ 18:17 |
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The Intel 805 CPU has great overcloking potential meaning if overclocked it can surpass my current CPU (Intel 630) in clock speed, right? Not to mention, it has 2 cores unlike my 630! Should I exchange my 630 for a 805?
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16. August 2006 @ 23:31 |
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To be quite honest, there won't be a great deal in the single-core performance, you can get 3.6 from a prescott 3.0 and about 3.6ish from a D805 (without going seriously overboard) so you end up with two times the processor, but at a similar speed. the D805 runs very hot, so make sure you've got loads of cooling, but it's doable.
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s3a
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18. August 2006 @ 20:41 |
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It is not really the clock speed that concerns me much anymore but the FSB speed. Why? Well...because, I don't really know what FSB is and does. Does it have anything to do with RAM's clock speed or am I totally off?
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19. August 2006 @ 02:28 |
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Right, the speeds of components brief hashed-together guide:
Base Front side bus speed: Comes in three flavours, 133mhz, 166mhz and 200mhz. The second of those isn't very commonly used any more, except for say mobile applications.
Memory speeds employ DDR (Double data rate) technology so with those FSB speeds, you have 266, 333 or 400mhz memory which you may have seen (PC2100, PC2700, PC3200). In older systems this also applied for front-side-buses, they were also 266,333,400 because they were 2x the base speed.
Now in modern Intel systems, the FSB is 4x the base speed, so 533, 666 and 800mhz, which you may have seen. D805 and the likes use 533, and high end stuff uses 800, and some 1066 (8x the 133mhz bus). This is one of the reasons the D805 overclocks so well, it's actually a 4.0Ghz 800mhz chip (20x multiplier) but used on a 133mhz base-bus.
Now, onto multipliers. CPUs have various multipliers of the base speed. An Athlon64 X2 4200+ like mine has an 11x Multiplier, 11 times a 200mhz base speed to make 2.2Ghz. This principle has been around for ages.
AMD processors however use hypertransport, a variable multiplier of the base bus speed, usually 200mhz. Normally set to 4 (for 800mhz bandwidth old boards/CPUs) or 5 (for 1000mhz bandwidth new boards/CPUs). The hypertransport is also double-sided, so it's 1000mhz each way, making 2000mhz. Confusing isn't it?
The good thing about hypertransport is that, although it's unstable above 1000, if you overclock by 25%, you can drop to a 4x, and still have the bus speed at 1000.
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ragolis
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23. August 2006 @ 12:48 |
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Does anyone know how to overclock a phoenix award bios and what option to use to access the features which would allow me to overclock my mainboard is an fic am39l with a via chipset any help much appreciated and the processor is amd athlon xp 2600 1.92ghz
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s3a
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23. August 2006 @ 13:14 |
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Does thermal paste melt when it is on top of the CPU while it is working? I assume it does. I am asking this out of curiosity..
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23. August 2006 @ 14:00 |
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It doesn't really melt since it's a fluid already, albeit a very viscous one. It may well become less viscous with heat, but at the end of all, it's keeping its shape and form, just getting hotter or cooler.
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25. August 2006 @ 19:53 |
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I'm looking to oc my comp. I'm looking for some tools to do so; such as stress testing software after being oced a bit to determine if the current oced settings are stable, and tools to show cpu/fsb/ram speeds before and after being oced.
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26. August 2006 @ 01:38 |
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Well, tests we use are Prime95 (prime numbers), Superpi (calculating Pi to so many stupendous decimal places), Sisoft Sandra and 3Dmark amongst others...
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crowy
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28. August 2006 @ 23:56 |
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Finally cracked 30 secs super pi 1M iterations:))
CPU @ 2925 (9x325)......Voltage way up there!
And here's the core temp idle @ stock.Coolant temp -4 degrees c.Room temp @ 23 degrees.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. August 2006 @ 03:42
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29. August 2006 @ 12:15 |
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Sam,
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To be quite honest, there won't be a great deal in the single-core performance, you can get 3.6 from a prescott 3.0 and about 3.6ish from a D805
Just remember that to get the memory up to stock (400MHz) speed with the D805 requires the CPU to run at 4.0 while with the 3.0 LGA 775 at 3.6 your memory is already overclocked to 480MHz. You should have no problem running the 3.0 at 3.7GHz with a good MB which will give you a 960MHz FSB and a memory speed of 490MHz. I've had mine (a 478) up to 3.81 without any problems. I backed it down to 3.76 because I thought it prudent to leave a little overhead and the performance difference is minimal.
s3a,
for the life of me I don't know why a lot people who list thier specs in thier sig don't include thier MB. Knowing that you have 6 USBs doesn't mean much when you don't know what the MB is. It's a lot easier to help when you know important things like that! Just an observation!
Happy Computering,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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crowy
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29. August 2006 @ 16:28 |
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theone,this is in s3a's sig,
Asus P5GDC Deluxe Mo-bo (DDR and DDR2 capable)
or am I missing something?
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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29. August 2006 @ 16:41 |
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crowy & s3a,
Sorry about that, I just flat missed it. I guess I looked through it instead of at it! I'll have to speak very sternly to my seeing-eye dog about it! Took me ten years to teach him to say Roof. He's a little slow! LOL
Happy Computering,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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crowy
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29. August 2006 @ 16:59 |
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theone,LOL.
It happens to us all.It's called getting old!!
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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31. August 2006 @ 02:43 |
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Hello again. I'm back with a few more overclocking questions. This time it's not my processor. I gave up on trying to unlock the BIOS. Now, I'm working on OC'ing my graphics card.
Here are the specs:
NVIDIA GeForce 6600 Go
Memory: 256 MB
ForceWare: 78.10 <--- Needs to be updated I know. But, I can't find the correct version. Any help on this would also be apreciated!
Default Core Clock: 375 MHz
Default Memory Clock: 600 MHz
I spent weeks reading and researching how to OC. I got Riva Turner since I heard it was best for NVIDIA cards and I got "rthdribl" for the benchmark. I installed RT and began increasing the core and memory MHZ by 5 each time. I'd run rthdribl each time. I reach 437/663 and temps were reaching 85C with full load, so I stopped. I save all the changes and set the setting to change on startup. I restart and everything went back to default. So, I repeat this again, and yet again when I closed RT everything went default. I tried everything to save these setings but, when I close RT they default.
I was about to just give it up and say f**k it! But then I seen that I had some new settings under the Geforce window. "Clock Frequency Settings" and "PowerMizer". I click on clock frequency and see that the core is 375 and the memory is 600. So, I'm thinking I have to change these settings instead of using RT.
Start changing the settings and I reach 446/721 with temps of 83-85C. This is great until history repeats itself! I save and apply the setting and set them to change on startup, but when I close the GeForce window and reopen it everything is back to 375/600.
Can anyone tell me what the hell I am doing wrong? Also, can anyone help about the drivers?
Much appreciation in advance!
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31. August 2006 @ 03:06 |
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niobis,
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ForceWare: 78.10 <--- Needs to be updated I know. But, I can't find the correct version.
You might try looking here www.driverguide.com It's a free sign up and you don't get flooded with spam. You also might try www.cracksthebugs.com They list a lot of free software and stuff.
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I tried everything to save these setings but, when I close RT they default.
Have you tried un-installing and re-installing the program? Just a thought! Also, On mine {ATi Catalast) you have to create a profile and save it before you can use it on the boot! After it's saved it gives you the option to use these settings on start-up.
Happy Computering,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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31. August 2006 @ 11:26 |
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@s3a
It doesnt melt it hardens and forms a quite rust like solid on top. IF the thermal compound is melting reapply some new stuff!
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31. August 2006 @ 12:51 |
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theonejrs,
Thanks for the links, will search them later.
About the drivers: I heard from NVIDIA that ForceWare 91.33 was the last version that would work for the GeForce 6 series, so I download them and try to install them. I recieve a message saying no drivers match my hardware, setup will now close. I running Windows XP Media Center Edition. The drivers said they were compatiable with Win2K and WinXP, but nothing about MCE. I got them from Guru3d.com and after searching other drivers, some say compatiable with WinXP MCE. I'm not sure if that is the problem or not. But I do not know what version will work for me. I'm on dial-up and all versions are 30MB+ so, I don't want to go by trial and error. Any suggestions?
Edit: Ok, I reinstalled RT and tried OC'ing again. And yet again everything went to default after closing RT. I even tried OC'ing through the "new" settings under the GeForce window. Same results.
I saved a profile the first time and even created a new one after I reinstalled. No luck...
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DiExMach
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5. September 2006 @ 13:27 |
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MB : Gigabyte GA-7N400 Pro2 Rev 2 nForce2 Ultra 400 chipset
Proc : AMD Athlon XP-Mobile 2600+ AXMG2600FQQ4C
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Mob...G2600FQQ4C.html
Memory : 4x 512MB PC3200 SDDR ram
Power Supply : Antec 400w PS
Videocard : BFG OC NVidia 7800GS 256MB GDDR3 256bit Interface AGP 8X
Hey guys, first time posting on your beautiful Forums. I am upgrading my exsisting system to use the new MB and Processor I have listed above. I want to run the memory and processor at 200mhz(400mhz)FSB, nothing really higher then the ram can handle at stable speeds, do you think that is possible with this MoBo and Gigabyte BIOS and nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset.
Next, I am going to be shooting for 2.2ghz or 2.4ghz using the Multiplier, I have a slightly modified heatsink fan. It is a ThermalTake 60 MM fan with a ducting mod attached to help spread out the airflow. I do plan on Upgrading the Heatsink for Aerocool x-raider, ht101jr, ht101, gt1000, or ht102. (Zalman doesn't seem to like that motherboard or at least the zalmans i looked at, if you have a zalman suggestion, let me know). Will these speeds be attainable with proper cooling for this processor?
Next, should I up the vcore on this chip to 1.65v automatically since this chip is just a normal 2600+ barton core able to run at 1.45v and be stable?
Next, will these FSB settings and multiplier settings slow down my graphics card, or will it still be at the 33/66mhz stock?
And lastly, is my powersupply going to be enuff for this set up, i do have 2 HDs, 2 cd/dvd drives, a blower fan for the case, and a regular 4 pin connector for the graphics card. I believe 20amp max on the 12v side.
ANy and all recommendations and suggestions on this will be greatly appreciated.
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5. September 2006 @ 13:36 |
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That all sounds fine, as long as the RAM you've got is a quality brand.
Niobis: It shouldn't be anything to do with MC, try an earlier driver.
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