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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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25. June 2006 @ 15:41 |
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That opteron 170 is a brute. Sophocles has his OC'ed to almost 2.8 ghz cool and stable and is kicking everythings a$$.
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InvGIR
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26. June 2006 @ 03:45 |
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The only difference between the 4200+ and the 3800+ is the 4200+ runs at 2.2GHz and the 3800+ runs a clock of 2GHz, all the rest of the specs are the same.
The 64bit technology isn't suported by much at the moment due to Windows XP being 32bit, but you will notice a performance boost over a standard 32but chip. I have an AMD Athlon 3000+ 64bit CPU and it quite easily (at stock values) runs far better than my previous 32bit CPU that had the same GHz power (not sure on the cache etc. of the old one though, this could have been providing the boost).
The Dual Core technology is also a little ahead of time, only certain programs use it, but mostly it's programs/apps that can use both cores whereas most games can't use them both. Dual core does seem to be the way forward with AMD and Intel pushing out more and more dual core CPUs.
I can't realy be of much use as I prefer to find the parts that suit me and then worry about the price for building a PC, also I like to do the complete build, buying every part that I need and asembling it all myself instead of buying a finished package or a barebone system.
Mort81: I know it is, it's one of my fav CPU's (I just can't afford it at the moment), my brother has a 4400+ but I'm more inclined to go the Opteron route especialy as I like to OC my computers and my brother doesn't.
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
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rick5446
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26. June 2006 @ 08:21 |
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I'M thinking of upgradeing my memory.Seems most memory runs at 400MGz.DOES faster memery inhance Computer speed? If so would this be a better selection
K-Byte 512MB PC4200 DDR2 DIMM Memory 533MHz $70.00ea
K-Byte 512MB PC5300 DDR2 DIMM Memory 667MHz $75.00ea
PNY Optima 2-Pack 512MB PC2-4200 DDR2 DIMM 533MHz $140.00pr
seems everything is about the same price frm 400MGz to 533
Or does the CPU control mem speed
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AfterDawn Addict
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26. June 2006 @ 09:18 |
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InvGIR: OK, good job i got a matched set for my next system then!
rick5446: Memory not included? So you've got to get your own then. No biggy, I'd be a bit wary of a 450W PSU that came with a case powering an X2, Cases like those are appalling quality, if I were you I'd buy a better unit like a seasonic or enermax.
I think the 4200 is a great value CPU, unless you OC - the increased mhz makes more difference than more cache to most people. The 3800 is just as good value, but obviously slower.
See the other thread about the RAM, rick. You'll need DDR1 for that system you posted here.
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rick5446
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26. June 2006 @ 09:26 |
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sammorris..OK THANKS
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26. June 2006 @ 10:01 |
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does anyone have an am2 processor yet? im wondering how overclockable they are. if they arent that great at overclocking, would it be better to stick with socket 939?
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26. June 2006 @ 10:41 |
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Unless you must have the latest and greatest, 939 is simpler, cheaper and better known. I also find that the good quality memory for DDR1 is cheaper than the good quality memory for DDR2. It made much more sense for me to go 939 with my new build (that was purchased a while after AM2 had come out) and you'll see 5% performance gain tops at present. Go 939 now, and wait for AM3.
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InvGIR
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27. June 2006 @ 00:54 |
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AMD made a balls up with the AM2 it gets hot and doesn't run as well as some of the 939 X2/939 Opterons/Intel chips.
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
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27. June 2006 @ 08:30 |
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I don't think it's any worse, just not that much better.
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InvGIR
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27. June 2006 @ 08:33 |
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Well techincally seeing as they are supposed to be a new and improved chip and they are worse/the same as the previous pinset they are worse :P
Seriously though, AMD did balls up with the AM2s which is why they aren't the most talked about CPUs, it's all about the 939 X2 chips really at the moment.
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
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AfterDawn Addict
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27. June 2006 @ 08:36 |
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They're not worse/the same, they're about 5% better, which is what we were told to expect. we got it, so I'm not arguing!
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InvGIR
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27. June 2006 @ 08:50 |
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Anyway, going to go a bit off topic (especially as this is the only thread I use in this forum)
I'm going Uni in September and am stuck between building a PC (as it's something I love doing and really want a decent rig) and buying a laptop. If I go for a laptop I want the Asus A6JA which has everything I will need as it's a fairly high spec machine and will handle games etc. well.
Does anybody have any sujestions as to what I should do, overall I'm looking at spending about £1100 on a computer for uni.
(if you feel this is really inapropriate thread please link me to somewhere I can re-post it and I'll edit this to something back on topic)
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
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27. June 2006 @ 08:53 |
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AfterDawn Addict
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27. June 2006 @ 08:56 |
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http://www.aria.co.uk - Custom PC build - for a little more than your budget (£1250) I've built an absolutely stunning PC with them, due for delivery later this week. A Laptop will get you 1/3 to 1/2 of the performance of a similarly priced desktop.
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InvGIR
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27. June 2006 @ 09:06 |
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I know all about selfbuilding/modding, been doing it since I had my first PII 333mhz system, that side of the knowledge is cool.
The problem is just the choosing between the two, I've had so many sujestions I still can't pick. If I do a PC I can't take it round campus (duh) but I can OC it and have a loverly entertainment system as that's what I'd build. The laptop on the otherhand has roaming ability and gaming ability (probably better at gaming than my current PC) and so both have plus sides.
I have a list of parts I would want to buy if I was creating a custom build PC, each part checked up and fully thought about (although may not go for water cooling as I've seen little gain over air cooling - including noise reduction).
Getting a laptop also means I have a lot more space in the car when moving my stuff aroun betwen home and uni compared to having a custom build pc in the car.
Too many plus sides and negatives on both :(
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
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AfterDawn Addict
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27. June 2006 @ 09:12 |
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You can take it round campus, it just isn't as easy LOL. Put it this way, wherever you go at uni, there'll be computers, and in a lecture hall I draw and write, so a laptop isn't any good to me really unless it's a tablet (£££££).
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InvGIR
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27. June 2006 @ 09:27 |
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I was thinking that I would use it in lectures to type up, but I'd probably get fed up with doing that and write anyways, also what I hadn't paid full attention to is I get full 24/7 access over the uni PCs so can use one whenever and wherever. One thing which is a major issue for me though is I prefer to have all my work on my own computer, and don't like doing work on other machines. So using the laptop would make this irrelivant but getting a pc would pull this issue up, having said that the uni PCs I will have access to are mean to be powerfull ones...so I should be alright as my issue is mostly just that I don't like using a PC that's a huge amount worse than my pc.
Looks like I have lots to think on still.
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
What I am getting;
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AfterDawn Addict
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27. June 2006 @ 09:39 |
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Uni PCs aren't bad, they won't game but they're rarely slow. JUst take a USB pen round with you and you're fine!
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InvGIR
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27. June 2006 @ 09:43 |
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*Gets out a pen and some paper/opens a blank excel document...*
Time for a shopping list.
That site you linked to Sam, thanks, the prices there are really nice prices even with VAT (which makes a change from most places I look).
It looks like I am getting swayed by the power of the PC :D
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
What I am getting;
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AfterDawn Addict
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27. June 2006 @ 11:45 |
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Lol yeah go for it. Any more questions ask me!
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InvGIR
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1. July 2006 @ 05:21 |
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Ok, so I'm looking at doing either an AM2 build or a 939 the shopping list is here - http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/2060/pc32vq.jpg
I've heard good things about overclocking both chips, but which will most likely reach FX-62 speeds on that Zalman cooler?
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
What I am getting;
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jonni3
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1. July 2006 @ 14:48 |
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InvGIR, if you go with the 939 setup are you planning on running a crossfire setup at a later date & will you be overclocking ? ...
If your not going crossfire & are going to o.c then i have have to recomend the DFI EXPERT mobo as it is without doubt the best 939 o.c'ing mobo around.
I have a Opteron 165 & the DFI Expert & currently it's running @ 2970mhz 24/7 stable http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=103036 i have run the same 165 on an Asus A8n-SLI deluxe & it would max out at 2707mhz but wasn't 24/7 stable, also your psu will need to be of a higher wattage, this is a very good psu http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=256337 as is this http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=228615 .... one other thing don't bother with the rip off thermal comound remover just go to the chemist and buy a £1.50 bottle of rubbing alcohol it works just as well & cost less for more :)
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1. July 2006 @ 15:00 |
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939 is a better and more familiar OC platform usually.
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InvGIR
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1. July 2006 @ 15:52 |
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*wets pants*
2.9Ghz out of a 1.8Ghz chip I take my hat off to thee :P
I don't plan on going Crossfire, the only reason for the crossfireboard is that it's running with the ATi card and the chipset for ATi. The AM2 has the nForce5 chipset and so I put a 7900GT with it to match up. :)
Thar be logic in my systems...a little bit anyways.
What's the difference between the 'LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR' and the 'LANPARTY UT NF4 SLI-DR Expert' ? other than price, the UT - Expert one costs anything from £5 (and up) more than the other one.
I'd like to stay with Nvidia as this 6200TD has been damn good to me over the past couple years. :) If I get a 7900GT (any make) do you think it's sensible to get an aftermarket cooler as I plan on OCing that too, aswell as trying to reduce the noise that some of the stock coolers create.
My only gripe with those PSUs is that one isn't modular, and the other has an 80mm fan in it. I'm after as little noise as possible in the case, and everybody knows of the noise from 80mm fans.
As for the thermal remover...I normaly use dry cotton buds on my Athlon 64 and it doesn't do it any harm.
What I have;
AMD Althon 3000+ 2.0ghz Socket 754 - Clocked to 2.40ghz - Stable
Akasa LED cooler - AK-855-BL
Winfast NFS250 motherboard
Winfast GeForce 6200TD - Unlocked to 8 pipelines and increased mhz, better preformance than 6600vanilla
1256MB Kingston DDR RAM
500W Magna PSU - ATX500W
DVD Reader
DVD±RW
1 Blue and Red LED case fan
1 Blue, Green and Red LED case fan
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jonni3
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2. July 2006 @ 06:26 |
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The difference between the 2 mobo's is in the 4 phase power regulator, software control SLI switch, Magnetic-levitate fan on chipset heatsink & the pcb layout.
The 4 phase power reg makes a big difference as it provides a more stable flow of volts for the cpu & chipset which results in a more stable o.c operation .
It really doesn't matter which chipset you use with which vga, with the psu's the Hiper is what i use @ the moment & is very quiet & as for the Seasonic you really can't get much better than one of those, they produce shed loads of stable volts & amps are extremly efficent are whisper quiet & come with a cable tidy kit.
You really shouldn't use cotton buds to remove thermal compound with, you need to use a lint free cloth but in the absence of that a coffee filter is just as good ...
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