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4. June 2008 @ 17:23 |
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Well skipping all this about Vista, I just got done building this computer. I am IMPRESSED with this Raidmax case and this goes on my list of recommended cases. It's pretty well thought out, and the quality is great!
Unfortunately I had a Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L crap out on one of my customers. I have to send it back to Gigabyte!
The specs on the PC I'm building right now:
E2180
GA-EP35-DS3R
250GB Seagate SATA 16MB
Sone Nec Optiarc DVD Burner
Chaintec 9600GT
Thermaltake 500W PSU
Raidmax Smilidon
Once I do a burn in for a few hours I will be OCing it. I have always managed to reach 3.2Ghz on these and NEVER pushed any further(not my computer so I don't risk it).
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4. June 2008 @ 17:25 |
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I wondered how long it'd be before that came back...
As for the DS3L, sadly that is starting to lose its quality edge, and Gigabyte are as a whole. Seems the high quality component era was relatively short lived. Their stuff is still good, but it's not up to the same standards it used to be. Sadly that doesn't really leave any company left in the midrange sector any more, which would explain why shaffaaf is needlessly picking expensive motherboards. Suddenly it's not actually so needless.
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4. June 2008 @ 17:27 |
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boozer, look at raidmax, and then at lianli.
then prepare to change your ideas on cases :D
btw i should be ordering an antec 1200 within the month, so will be putting up pics of it. :)
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4. June 2008 @ 17:30 |
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Again, I have nothing against Lian Li cases, and certainly not against their quality. I don't use one myself because I think their styling is rather dull, but I see a place for that. Oh, and some of their cases are inexplicably three times the price of very similar models, but overall I'd say their quality surpasses that of any other case manufacturer I've seen. Above coolermaster, above NZXT, above Antec, and certainly above Raidmax.
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4. June 2008 @ 17:31 |
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Bro this was a budget build. For a 50 dollar case it's got more than enough quality. This computer cost the guy 700 dollars.
Oh and I forgot to mention it has 4GB of Patriot RAM(cas 4 PC-6400).
Last time I sent a board to Gigabyte it took them three weeks.
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4. June 2008 @ 17:31 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I wondered how long it'd be before that came back...
As for the DS3L, sadly that is starting to lose its quality edge, and Gigabyte are as a whole. Seems the high quality component era was relatively short lived. Their stuff is still good, but it's not up to the same standards it used to be. Sadly that doesn't really leave any company left in the midrange sector any more, which would explain why shaffaaf is needlessly picking expensive motherboards. Suddenly it's not actually so needless.
HAHA.
tbh, the only p35 i still see for sale is the DSL. im sure they are jsut waiting to being out some very good p45s.
how is the x38 sam?
abit still make decent boards at good prices, as do MSI.
imo id pik GB over them anyday (if they have the same price bracket)
im not even gonan go intot he crap asus produce at that level. have you seen new new vanila P5Q (p45 chipset) the 24pin mobo socket is next to the I/O back plate.
talk about OOOOLLLLDDDDD layouts.
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4. June 2008 @ 17:34 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Again, I have nothing against Lian Li cases, and certainly not against their quality. I don't use one myself because I think their styling is rather dull, but I see a place for that. Oh, and some of their cases are inexplicably three times the price of very similar models, but overall I'd say their quality surpasses that of any other case manufacturer I've seen. Above coolermaster, above NZXT, above Antec, and certainly above Raidmax.
agreed about their minimalistic styling a bit boring, but then id choose it over Xclio, and that aweful X-blade case (which i wanted when i was new to the game)
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4. June 2008 @ 17:40 |
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Originally posted by abuzar:
Bro this was a budget build. For a 50 dollar case it's got more than enough quality.
And now the truth comes out... :)
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
how is the x38 sam?
fine, but the BIOS update system sucks a bit. Then again I don't trust Asus' BIOS updates either, so that's kind of moot. It's a perfectly good board, but I'd love to know why it takes more than twice as long to complete POST as the DS3R.
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
agreed about their minimalistic styling a bit boring, but then id choose it over Xclio, and that aweful X-blade case (which i wanted when i was new to the game)
I wanted a Thermaltake Soprano once. 'nuff said! lol
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4. June 2008 @ 17:45 |
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haha. its not as bad as mine, casu the one i wanted came with a brilliant 450W PSU!!! ZOMGERZ1111!!!1!!!11!!
and updateing asus boards is easy, put in usb, press F2 and ALT and slect the drive and off you go :)
or do it in windows (which i have done twice w.o fail)
i have never had one bad bios.
i just upgrade when i need to, and i have NEVER needed to clear CMOS.
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4. June 2008 @ 17:46 |
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Still better quality than the CM 690. What I meant was if you pay extravagant amounts for a case(Armor, Stacker, Lianli cases) obviously they will be better quality. Seriously, this case matches construction quality with my Armor, and that simply is AMAZING.
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4. June 2008 @ 17:49 |
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boozer, what are you drinking, injecting or snorting?
:p
xD
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4. June 2008 @ 17:51 |
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Nothing right now. I like to inject morphine once in a while lol.
Seriously, you wont know what I'm talking about till you have actually used one.
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4. June 2008 @ 18:03 |
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Ah now, that's going further back for me. I bought an ebuyer extra value 600W PSU once, and when it didn't work, it got replaced with a Qtec 450W. After the fire, I used a Hiper unit. Not perfect, but much better.
I didn't have a bad BIOS, but the board one day decided it wanted F1 back, and so did.
Abuzar, tease or not, it matches the quality of construction of an Armor. Now how about a real case, eh? Buy something like a Lian Li A70, then speak.
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4. June 2008 @ 18:12 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Ah now, that's going further back for me. I bought an ebuyer extra value 600W PSU once, and when it didn't work, it got replaced with a Qtec 450W. After the fire, I used a Hiper unit. Not perfect, but much better.
I didn't have a bad BIOS, but the board one day decided it wanted F1 back, and so did.
Abuzar, tease or not, it matches the quality of construction of an Armor. Now how about a real case, eh? Buy something like a Lian Li A70, then speak.
sam u got em dribbleing for that lianl---- no the Q-TEC
:p
i fear for anyone who has a q-tec. i would wish one on my most hated enemy
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4. June 2008 @ 18:13 |
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I wouldn't even do that... :P
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4. June 2008 @ 18:21 |
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HAHA
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4. June 2008 @ 18:21 |
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If you don't think the Armor is a real(good) case then you're on DRUGS. lol
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4. June 2008 @ 18:46 |
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Perhaps some maturity is needed here?
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4. June 2008 @ 18:54 |
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leave us teens alone. i have to get to uni in sept, i wanna get the immaturity out NOW
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4. June 2008 @ 19:09 |
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Oh yeah. Holy crap, I'm not a teenager any more... Bah, I wouldn't say it's changed me in the slightest.
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4. June 2008 @ 20:53 |
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I'm not the one who bought up drugs!
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5. June 2008 @ 01:55 |
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I just had an interesting upgrade experience. A customer brought me a Compaq AMD with a 3200 Sempron that these people took for rent owed. I had done the memory upgrade on it and even loaned a friend of mine's memory (with his permission) so he could use the computer until his memory came in. When he brought the computer back, the loaned memory was gone, replaced by a couple of dead sticks. No one knew nothin and I had to eat it! The computer shows up yesterday and lo and behold the missing memory is installed in it! I excused myself and went and got the invoice and checked the Serial numbers! It was the stolen memory! I showed her the invoice and correctly identified the people involved!
She insisted that I take the memory back (how's that for a surprise) since she wanted nothing to do with something stolen. I gave her a price of $80 to replace the memory and do some fixing in XP-Pro and a couple of other software upgrades. She said that she didn't have the money to do it, and after a day of thinking it over she offered me the 19" ProView LCD Widescreen monitor and I gave her a real nice 16" CRT monitor. With a native resolution of 1440x1200 for the ProView, it has a very sharp picture. In essence I gave up some Corsair Value Select cas 2.5 memory (2x512) for the monitor! Strange business dealings! LOL!!
shaffaaf,
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i just upgrade when i need to, and i have NEVER needed to clear CMOS.
The down side to not clearing the CMOS is that you can get remnants of a messed up bios left over. That's why it's always good to clear the bios. It worked very well for me when I first flashed this one back when I got it because someone had messed it all up as it was delivered to the wrong address! I re-flashed the bios and didn't clear the CMOS and had all sorts of strange problems. Simply clearing the bios solved everything. A very good habbit to get into. It only takes a few minutes and is easy to do. Don't be relying on the fact that you never do it because that could come back and bite you on the A$$!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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5. June 2008 @ 12:56 |
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yeah i understand russ.
might do it but then i gotta flash bios again... LONG :P it takes the best part of 2 mins :p
im jsut saying, that i have had failed OCs, from pushing it so far, but asus have always givne me the option of resetting w.o clearing cmos. my mobo has never balcked out, or frozen etc, perfect.
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5. June 2008 @ 13:17 |
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Indeed - that's another one of the things that's specific to nvidia chipset boards like the Striker.
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5. June 2008 @ 14:50 |
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shaffaaf,
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might do it but then i gotta flash bios again...im jsut saying, that i have had failed OCs, from pushing it so far, but asus have always givne me the option of resetting w.o clearing cmos. my mobo has never balcked out, or frozen etc, perfect.
You don't have to flash it again. all you are doing is clearing any possible remnants from the bios. You will have to go through the settings again and return the CPU and memory to manual, that's all! Even if you re-set the bios (as you say)!
Most MBs these days will only reset the CPU and memory speed to stock by switching them to auto. They don't reset anything else. The settings are still there in phantom and return after you switch back to manual! Rarely does it cause a problem if you don't pull the battery and completely power down, but occasionally it does! There's also no other way to completely clear it other than doing that! It makes no difference who's bios it is, by clearing the bios by removing the battery with the PSU turned off and the power plug removed assures that all the registers are cleared and set to default! It's the same for any MB bios regardless of MB brand!
If you haven't experienced any blackouts or freezes then you aren't overclocking right! How else would you find the limits of that particular MB, CPU and memory? You take it up slowly until it fails and then go from there! Besides if it fails the overclock, the screen goes black and the system re-sets, so saying no blanking or blacking of the screen is pure BS! It happens to any computer if you push the limits too far, regardless of brand! It has nothing whatsoever to do with who the manufacturer of the MB is!
Don't be encouraging bad habits among the Newbies, please! LOL!! We are all here to either teach or learn. If we are teaching, then we need to do it by the book, the right way! There are no shortcuts to doing it right! There is no easy way, there's only the right way! Besides, you've never kept a computer long enough to even know if it's actually right. Sometimes problems attributed to an overclock don't show up for months. My D-940 ran perfect at 3.92GHz! I had no problems with it whatsoever until I joined Folding at Home! I wasn't aware of any problems until I got notified that my Work Units weren't being completed. I had to back it down to 3.84GHz so that it would fold properly! I consider folding the ultimate test for an overclock. If it will fold, there are no unseen problems!
There are no substitutes for good work habits and patience. A good overclock takes time, patience and a bit of luck. Since I've done more builds than you have had shoes in your life, I know what I'm talking about! It's called experience!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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