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12. June 2008 @ 06:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sincere apologies Russ, I was trying to find a suitable way of saying that in a light hearted tone - suppose I didn't hit the right one....

I agree with you on the sentiment of the graphs though, they're designed in a very odd manner, but one that AMD have been using for some time now - this is the first graph I've seen from them in a long time that hasn't had the scale cropped to make the results look even better!





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12. June 2008 @ 08:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Sincere apologies Russ, I was trying to find a suitable way of saying that in a light hearted tone - suppose I didn't hit the right one....

I agree with you on the sentiment of the graphs though, they're designed in a very odd manner, but one that AMD have been using for some time now - this is the first graph I've seen from them in a long time that hasn't had the scale cropped to make the results look even better!
thats exactly what nvidia did with they GTX280 graph. cut off the bottom, and started with 1. then they stretched out every 0.1 massively, so it looked like the gap was huge.

and Russ, if you were promoting your product you would do the same. i know i would.

it indicated the 4870 is 1.4x 9800GTX.

frames dont need to be shown, its been normalised. at 1920 with 4AA 8AF on average the 4870 is 1.4x the 9800GTX. IMO amazing. esp for around £230



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12. June 2008 @ 15:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Assuming it is actually £230 - I was thinking of waiting for the 1GB version, but looking at the benches of Diamond's 3870 1GB, I'll pass, it's less than a 4% difference in all games.



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with the texture fill rate with GDDR5, the 256 bit buss wont be limiting. im sure 512 will be fine upto 24" even with AA/AF.



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butbut... 30"... :(



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12. June 2008 @ 16:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ahhh.....


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GTX280 in trisli on a 790i DDR3 ASUS/EVGA board


its your only option.

along with a Q-tec 20000W PSU



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question fellers. im looking at a 500gb hdd its a WD caviar gp drive are these any good? reliable?fast?noisey??? here is a link to it
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/45...nal-Hard-Drive/

any ideas?
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12. June 2008 @ 19:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They aren't the world's fastest drives, but they're not slow, have excellent power efficiency and are the quietest large drives around - reliability seems to be pretty good, and they're also rather cheap.



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cincyrob,
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question fellers. im looking at a 500gb hdd its a WD caviar gp drive are these any good? reliable?fast?noisey??? here is a link to it

It's an all right drive, but I would humbly suggest you take a look at this one first.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148294
500GB, 32MB Buffer, $109.99! One of the fastest drives around! Need I say more! No? I'm done! LOL!!

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12. June 2008 @ 23:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cincyrob.. U can get a Seagate 4 less shop around the net 99.00 & less, also 5yr warranty
or samsung 3yr warranty
I just bought a 750 gig seagate 4 119.00 newegg

But if U truly want a W/D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136150
Western Digital Caviar GP WD7500AACS 750GB 5400 to 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $119.99 Free 3 Business Day Shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $84.99 Free 3 Business Day Shipping..3 years limited

ALL HDD... http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLis...tk=&srchInDesc=
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13. June 2008 @ 00:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
anyone seen my friend JASON Vorhees? it is his B-day Friday the 13th



LMAO... my idle
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OK guys the PC shop sold all my stuff i have ordered since i was down and out with my back. the only thing i can't find is the link to the Thermalright Ultra-120 CPU Cooler? and sammorris this works in my Antec 900 ok right?

heres what I'm ordering again lol

1. E8400 or maybe the E3110

2. ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

3. CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)Ram

4. Thermalright Ultra-120 CPU Cooling

4. Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA


I already have this vvvv

1. Antec 900 gaming case

2. Thermaltake 750-Watt PS

3. NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2,1 GB of GDDR3 Memory


anyone see any conflits? and thanks all!!




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13. June 2008 @ 07:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ZOSO
hey take a look at these HDD. a comparison between the 250gb and 500gb only $10 difference for twice the HDD.

Hard Drives

tiger direct has the E8400 in stock and on sale for $189. thats what i paid for mine.
E8400
opps just checked newegg has it for $189 with free shipping even better deal
what ever you do dont get crucial ballistix mem... they might be compatible with the ASUS board but i wouldnt chance it.

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ZoSoIV,
Looks excellent to me!

Best Regards,
Russ


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take a look

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article843-page1.html

F1 1TB drive. AMAZING



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13. June 2008 @ 10:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well after rearangeing my fans. i now have a 140mm & 120mm on the top as exhust. and a 140mm & 120mm on the side as intake(and a 120 in front and rear.intake and exhust)
my temps are a bit better. actually pretty much better i think with my OC of 3.6ghz my temps are the same now as it was with the 3.4ghz OC.

at idle both cores are 49c the CPU is 30c

plus i did a little cable management. got the extra cables off the bottom of the case where the extra fan can go.
also made some room for a incomeing burner ;)not sure if its gonna be a litey or a pioneer??? scratches me head.

also did away with that 100gb 8mb cache ide drive. got my OS back on the 250gb 16mb cache sata drive....man is there a big difference.

outside of putting in a drive or 2 i think im done opening this thing up..lol now i can get back to burning and stop buggin ya all with my sillyness.
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13. June 2008 @ 10:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ZOSO, how come no love for Quad Cores? I'm sure you can afford one. lol

Rob, what is it that you burn all the time man. Seems like that's all you got your computer for lol.
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13. June 2008 @ 10:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thats mostly what i built it for is burning, converting, editing.
i back up my movies. alot of the kids movies..lol
make my own dvd's from videos of my sons have made alot of dvds for the family of pics of the kids and such.

it used to take me well over a hour to convert mpegs to dvd format now it take 15 mins 20 at the longest
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13. June 2008 @ 10:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is this Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB
Faster then a Quad 2.4 2.6 Intel
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13. June 2008 @ 11:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Depends on what you are using it for. Most applications will have the dual core as better performing because they are not optimized for quad cores. The ones that are Optimized for Quad cores the quad core will be ALMOST twice as fast!

Also, more and more applications are supporting quad cores.
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13. June 2008 @ 11:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rick, Theone, Rob: I have no objection to you guys using Seagate, Samsung or WD Drives, they are all very good. The drives I get on best with are the Samsungs and the WDs, because make much less seek noise (grinding, clicking when used) than the Seagates - the Samsungs I only use in external boxes as they vibrate a lot (Which incidentally russ, the Steel version of the Lexa case is far more prone to than the Aluminium one!)


Zoso: Looking good!


On an interesting note - (mainly directed at theone) you may recall I had an issue with the X38-DS4 that wasn't present with my P35 board where it would wait for quite a while at 'verifying DMI Pool Data' - I've sinced changed to using my Raptor as my OS drive, and it no longer happens! Bootup time from power button pressed to ready to use is around 55 seconds.



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13. June 2008 @ 13:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
good fine Robert since it only 10.00 dollars more for 250 more gig then thats the one i will get.

thanks for the stamp of approval Russ and the rest of you all

and abuzar1 i really don't need a quad core right now plus as you said the applications for quad core aren't that high right now .I can always upgrade to quad in a year or so plus i like the idea of OC(ing) to 4 plus GHz with the E8500.

yeah i hurt my back pretty bad at work and its finally getting better so i hadn't been able to get the extra stuff done like upgrading my PC etc. till now but finally its going to happen




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13. June 2008 @ 13:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
abuzar1..So I do a lot of Video Encoding-Recoding.So the Quads would be better 4me.
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13. June 2008 @ 13:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah for those purposes quads will be a hell of a lot better. Just make sure you update your programs to the newest versions with quad core support.
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13. June 2008 @ 13:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Russ whats the difference between the seagate500 gig HDD thats 109.00 dollars compare to the 89.00 dollar drive rob posted?




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