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24. December 2009 @ 19:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm fairly sure a 5200+ can handle HD just fine. With a proper video card it's actually very capable
I could run 2 full 1080p videos side by side on 5000+ BE.



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Well, all I know is that some 1080p videos were too much for a 4200+, and the 5000+ isn't that much more powerful. Most 1080s run fine, around 40-70%, but a few were 100% and lagging.



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Wel...in other news, the Palomino (Athlon XP) processor 2100 1.73Ghz gave a noticeable increase to my oldest system. However, running netflix viewer definitely taxes the processor. It averages over 80% cpu useage, and acts some what choppy. Increasing the process priority helps quite a bit, but it is rather tedious having to do that every time for only a marginal increase in video quality playback. I'm now rather disappointed with the netflix viewer. Where once this computer could run Dvds without hiccup, at only 25-50% cpu useage, as well as divx playback, streaming B Grade video quality via their viewer and firefox has become a strenuous CPU process! I guess I could install Linux on the system, and free up some resource. It IS one of the earlier systems to run XP. I'm sure the proper linux OS would free up some serious resources :)

Does anyone run Linux, and stream netflix via Chrome, Firefox, etc? Keeping in mind that Silverlight is a requirement for the installation of the netflix viewer. Hmmm...might not be possible or legal eh? Silverlight running on a NON MS operating environment.

Oman7,
I think the sluggish DVD playing is more the lack of L2 Cache on the CPU than anything. The 2100+ only has 256KB of L2!

I just did a little experiment since I had a socket A 1900+ computer here for repair. Once I got it fixed, I tried playing DVDs with it and it did stutter some during playback. I pulled the 1900+ that was in it and replaced it with the 2500+ Bartton with it's 512KB L2. The Motherboard doesn't support the 333 fsb of the 2500+, so it runs about the same speed as the 1900+. The video played flawless, with no skips or stutters at all. With everything the same except the CPU and the only appreciable difference being twice as much L2 Cache with the 2500+, I would have believe that the lack L2 Cache was the culprit!

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Well...all I know, is that the 5200 acts like its super duper LOL! It runs as smooth or better than my Phenom II deneb. But then, my Phenom may be lacking due to some kind of MOBO issue. I'll know in a few months. Im gonna get a new board, and call this one my secondary, since it's rapidly becoming outdated anyway...

Sam, I know you've complimented the 5200 before. You said it was way better than the 4200. I remember because I almost didn't buy it. Though I almost bought the 6000+ because it was fully supported. The 6400 is not though. I think its TDP is to high for the board. The board won't support anything over 89-94W. Heck, I think the 6000+ 89W version is extremely rare. I had trouble finding it once upon a time. Newegg use to carry it though.

Russ, it plays dvd's fine. Streaming netflix however, is not good...



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I have a question about a laptop. I have a Dell M1530 with this configuration:
http://support.dell.com/support/topics/g...ab=2&~ck=anavml

The screen is physically broken, the top was closed with a small toy still inside it and the screen broke. The AC adapter/charger needs to be replaced as well. He doesn't have the remote for the media player and it's exactly 2 years old. I would like to buy this from him, but I don't think in it's present condition that it's worth very much. If anyone has an idea of what a fair price would be to offer, please let me know.

EDIT= Wrong link!

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Russ, I think i've posted this before, but here goes again. I think it's possible that the speed may be dropping. Where i've seen upwards of 16, now it's averaging around 12-13.5! 13.5 if i'm lucky. For those unfamiliar, this is a CCE process window. My athlon 5200 averages 5-6 consistently. using roughly 75% of its dual core potential. And since the Phenom is significantly OC'd beyond the 5200's abilities, I think it should be performing a bit better. I guess we'll see when I get the new board. The phenom II averages about 50-60% cpu useage.

Russ, your Athlon Propus averages what! LOL!





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russ, link not working but found the specs on it any way.
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/sy.../RU335A02MR.pdf
see what ebay has them for in about same condition.
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Russ, I think i've posted this before, but here goes again. I think it's possible that the speed may be dropping. Where i've seen upwards of 16, now it's averaging around 12-13.5! 13.5 if i'm lucky. For those unfamiliar, this is a CCE process window. My athlon 5200 averages 5-6 consistently. using roughly 75% of its dual core potential. And since the Phenom is significantly OC'd beyond the 5200's abilities, I think it should be performing a bit better. I guess we'll see when I get the new board. The phenom II averages about 50-60% cpu useage.

Russ, your Athlon Propus averages what! LOL!



Oman7,
The speed goes up and down, I guess it depends on the disk structure, and whether it's CLV or CAV. The speed has been as high as the mid 22s, and as low as the mid 10s. What I was questioning with Will, at the time, is the same thing I question with your example, the average bit rate!




Wills were in the mid 2s, while yours is in the low 4s. Mine are consistently in the mid 6s. I guess it depends on the type of encryption used for the copy protection.

This pic was a mind blower for me. 17 minutes total (actually 17:26) I was completely mesmerized by the speed that the pass indicator bars flew by, considering that the speed was in the mid 22s! It looked like a videotape of the process with the 2x button pushed. Just zip, zip, zip! Not a huge movie, for sure, but still very fast! I honestly didn't expect it to play or even complete the burn, but it did! Good thing I didn't abort it like I thought about it. I thought there was something wrong, but the files in the output folder played and it burned without any problems.




The encode process took 12 minutes!




It still impresses the hell out of me! I go back to the days of 3 hour encodes, so under 30 minutes, makes me one happy camper!

Happy Holidays,
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Russ, I think your confused. CLV and CAV are burning strategies for burning discs. And the high 6 and 7s your talking about are the video bitrates. With numbers like that, you don't require much compression. If you see 2s 3s and 4s they need a bit of compression. Anything upwards of that, should be indistinguishable from the original. The speed im talking about is the processors speed to encode the video. I guess mine goes faster where more compression is needed. Perhaps some kind of power saver is turned on in my bios eh?



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Russ, I think your confused. CLV and CAV are burning strategies for burning discs. And the high 6 and 7s your talking about are the video bitrates. With numbers like that, you don't require much compression. If you see 2s 3s and 4s they need a bit of compression. Anything upwards of that, should be indistinguishable from the original. The speed im talking about is the processors speed to encode the video. I guess mine goes faster where more compression is needed. Perhaps some kind of power saver is turned on in my bios eh?

Oman7,
I guess that explains the 2s then, with a higher speed. Here's the other end of that spectrum with low bit rates and higher speeds. This is The Chronicles of Narnia, Prince Caspian.




Again, not too shabby for a $112 Quad core! Oh, I guess that 13.53 gains me some respect, eh? ROFL!!

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I hope that was just a test buddy LOL! You don't usually keep the french and spanish audio tracks do you? Sorry about off topic. I don't keep the commentary either. Really does depend on how good a movie is though...



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I hope that was just a test buddy LOL! You don't usually keep the french and spanish audio tracks do you? Sorry about off topic. I don't keep the commentary either. Really does depend on how good a movie is though...

Oman7,
I live in a predominantly Spanish neighborhood! That's why I keep those tracks! I've edited my last post! He He!! my Lady friend speaks French as her native tongue, as does her family!

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Well...it certainly has MY respect. But just wait. This phenom is gonna scream in its new board :P Im gonna pull out all the stops to see just whats dragging it down!



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Merry Christmas Fred and all; have just finished an amazing dinner, the Southern Comfort is just kicking in and a bottle of wine is now emptying nicely :)



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LOL, I kinda figured that, I called my Uncle in the UK this morning to wish all of them a Merry Christmas, it was 8 in the morning here and I think around 1pm over there, they were all smashed, everyone I talked to was re-peating & re-peating and they had that drawl or slur whichever you wanna call it, man it was funny, I'm glad the old Unc & his friends can still have a good time, more power to them.
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Well we've finished christmas dinner and we're not drunk... :P



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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year To Everyone

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Haha Same to you Russ.

Was hilariously drunk last night. Bit hungover this morning but it's all good. Cheers guys XD



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Indeed, hope everyone has a great time, and that the next year is better than this one (It wouldn't be that hard for me!)



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quote, Well we've finished christmas dinner and we're not drunk... :P

Oh thats to bad Sammy, I offer you my condolences lol.
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Perfectly fine with me, more room for confectionary :)



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good morning and merry x-mas to afterdawn! May your day bring you all the happiness you hoped for and deserve :)



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