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23. June 2008 @ 22:41 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
IMO G.Skill. they are brilliant.
and hoenstly, get PC-6400, why use 1066 when you never going to reach those speeds?
I don't understand your logic. why not go with pc 8500? it will run at 1066mhz right out of the package for very little more money.
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23. June 2008 @ 22:46 |
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Also if you are looking to decide between the Q6600 and the Q9300, I would recommend the Q6600 if you plan on OCing.
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23. June 2008 @ 22:54 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Also if you are looking to decide between the Q6600 and the Q9300, I would recommend the Q6600 if you plan on OCing.
I would too not only for overclocking but also because the 6600 has 2 x 4M L2 cache where as the 9300 has 6M L2 cache. less money to boot.
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23. June 2008 @ 22:58 |
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HE SAID BOOT...boot scootin boogie.
man it like trying to keep up with the jones's in here..lol i want a quad so bad it hurts..lol
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23. June 2008 @ 23:01 |
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shaffaaf,
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IMO G.Skill. they are brilliant.
and hoenstly, get PC-6400, why use 1066 when you never going to reach those speeds?
The G.Skill 800s, yes but the 1066s don't work that well!
Bad advice on getting PC-6400 instead of the 1066MHz PC-8500! While you can overclock 800MHz memory, there's no guarantee that they will overclock at all. My Dominators are presently running at 1060MHz and will run fine at 1066 on the 2.40 multiplier. The G.Skill 800s would barely hit 880-890MHz with the E6750's 8X multiplier. With the E4300 and it's higher 9X multiplier, the same memory would OC to 960MHz because of the lower fsb speed! I look at it this way. 1066MHz memory is guaranteed to run at 1066! If they don't, you have some recourse. The 800MHz are guaranteed to run at 800MHz! If they don't hit 900 or higher, too bad! Price is no longer an issue as the 1066 Dominators cost me $59 for 2 GB (2x1GB) and are pretty ideal for an 8X or 9X multi CPU! They are presently $49 with MIR!
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get a tuniq tower instead, or an OCZ vendetta 2.
Why? Unless you have real poor case ventilation or are overclocking it to the absolute max, it's overkill! It's also one of the heaviest coolers on the market and has been known to damage some motherboards because the shear weight (720Gr without the fan) can buckle some motherboards!
I have a Doctor friend that's been running his Q6600 at 3.3GHz with the stock Intel cooler in a NZXT Lexa case, for about a year now. Just last week I put an AF7-Pro in it for him because the Intel's fan started making noise and It's all I had in stock. He's a gamer, and has no temperature issues at all. I was a bit surprised to see his temps are about the same as mine, as I've been led to believe differently when it comes to the Q6600!
Best Regards,
Russ
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23. June 2008 @ 23:07 |
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mrk44 I have the ODD that Sammy linked you too. ;) It's not the best burner of the bunch but it's not to bad. ;) I'd still go with the Sony/NEC/Optiarc AD-7200A/S and see how you like it. ;) I've burned a few so far and it seems pretty good but I'm gonna change f/w and give that a go.. a little birdie told me the 106(?) is a better f/w. :)
Rick if you can swing it the Q9450 is the cpu to go with. Even with an OC on the Q6600 I don't see how it can keep up with the extra cache and possibly a little OC on it too. :D
As far as RAM goes the 2x2GB is the way I would go, especially if you don't plan on a HIGH OC.... the 4x1GB wouldn't do you any more good either. ;) Brands.... who knows.... I would look at Mushkin, OCZ, and Corsair.. my opinion of course. :) I'd personally go with the DDR2 1066 stuff too, NEVER know when you'll need it. ;) And it's guaranteed to run at that speed, if it doesn't complain to the EGG or the manufacturer.... :D
The ACF7 Pro should do you just fine... NO serious OC's tho... I mean 30% plus.. If you're gonna look at that then a TRUE (Thermalright Ultra Extreme) is the way to go... there's some others out there that perform about as well, BUT that's about as good as it gets. :)
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23. June 2008 @ 23:09 |
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Well I kept my Q6600 at 1.45v at 3.2ghz and my load temps reached the 60C mark with the Freezer 7 Pro at FULL speed. I don't know what kinds of place your doctor friend lives in but I live in Florida and the AC is on almost all the time.
I would recommend the Xigmatek HDT S1283 AS LONG AS YOU GET A BOLT THROUGH KIT FOR IT. The kit for the TRUE works fine for the Xigamtek.
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23. June 2008 @ 23:15 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
I like the Optiarcs for my burners and the Asus for the DVD-Rom. All my standard builds are that way, 1 burner and 1 DVD-Rom. I think the 32-33 I've built this year so far, account for about 27 AD-7170 Burners and maybe 30 Asus DVD-Rom drives. I've only had one fail, and that was mine! Power supply dead shorted the 5v across the 12v while it was playing! The DVD burner makes some air noise, but very little vibration, with no buzz at all! The Asus 16X DVD-Rom makes almost no noise! It's whisper quiet! I sell a ton of both every year, and never had a complaint yet!
Can you send me a link of the Optiarc you use?? I can't seem to find the AD-7170 on newegg.
greensman: I was gonna go with the Optiarc before Sam recommended the LG. If I can find the one theonejrs is talking about, I can compare them.
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23. June 2008 @ 23:22 |
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mrk44 the AD-7170 is NOT available any longer. Well not that I've found. It's a pretty good drive but the AD-7200 is better. :D
If you want something that is "cheap" and will last for a while and has the features you're wanting you might look at the Lite-On's. :D They build a pretty good product and they have all kinds of "after market" f/w available. ;) Something to consider..... link to liteon possiblities
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23. June 2008 @ 23:29 |
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mrk44,
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Can you send me a link of the Optiarc you use?? I can't seem to find the AD-7170 on newegg.
No can do! The AD-7170 series has been replaced with the AD-7200 series and is no longer made. Each series has been better than the previous ones, so I would get an AD-7200 without much thought. Very good drives at a very reasonable price!
The Lite-Ons are pretty good, but traditionally they all seem to develop tray problems with opening and closing, sooner or later. Sometimes a new belt for the motor will fix it right up, but the tray gearing and guides are very poorly done and wear out far too easily. Good drives, but they need to improve their design a bit to eliminate those kind of problems! I replace a lot of Lite-Ons for that very reason. More than any other brand! Especially with HPs or Compaqs with their spring loaded case doors!
Russ
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24. June 2008 @ 00:10 |
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Personally speaking Lite-ons are the loudest drives I have had. They work pretty well though and they are cheap. I heard the Pioneers are good. i was considering getting one. Is this true?
Off topic, but did any of you English people watch the Cricket match between England and the West Indies? It's a twenty twenty, but still some amazing stuff there.
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24. June 2008 @ 00:31 |
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Well, I finally ordered all my parts! Except the GPU, which I will be getting employee discounted from EVGA.com
I went with the Optiarc AD-7200S SATA drive. I have a good feeling about it. Apparently it doesn't come with a SATA cable and power cable...so I'll need those. Anyone know where I can get some cheap ones???
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24. June 2008 @ 00:52 |
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24. June 2008 @ 00:58 |
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greensman: Thanks for the links to the SATA cables. The ones at coolerguy.com are definately cheaper for the shipping ($5.99 at newegg for one cable??!?).
By the way, what kind of power cable would I need for that NEC Optiarc?? Do you know?? Or does it come with one??
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24. June 2008 @ 01:10 |
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Originally posted by mrk44:
greensman: Thanks for the links to the SATA cables. The ones at coolerguy.com are definately cheaper for the shipping ($5.99 at newegg for one cable??!?).
By the way, what kind of power cable would I need for that NEC Optiarc?? Do you know?? Or does it come with one??
You are welcome... ;)
Sorry omitted the power cable... you should get power from the psu.. which psu were you going with again?? Most (all) the newer psu's come with the proper power cable (SATA) for the SATA HDD's and ODD's. ;)
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24. June 2008 @ 01:20 |
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Oh, okay so the PSU comes with the power cable. I got that corsair 650TX from buy.com for $79.99 that I found earlier. Should come with everything I need. Thanks.
One more thing: Which length SATA cable do you recommend? Does it depend on the case build itself?
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24. June 2008 @ 01:42 |
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the PC shop told me there having major problems with the 1066 memory and suggested i use the 800 , is that going to be a problem when i OC my Q9450?
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24. June 2008 @ 01:48 |
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@Zoso
What board & memory do you have?..
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24. June 2008 @ 02:28 |
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CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (4 x 1GB) DDR2 800 memory. should i get the 1066 instead? like i said the PC shop is having problems with the 1066
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24. June 2008 @ 02:33 |
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@mrk44
i don't know what kinda case you have or comin with but here's a link to look up some Sata cables and much other stuff you might
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Sata Cable Link
@greensman
i gotta spread the news old cincyrob stepped up and adding another burner..Cincy's selection 20x Sata i think he trying to catch you greensman..lol..i gonna get another one later hav'en decided yet on which 1..but..i know it gonna be 20x old uncle benq 1655 is hanging in there and still burning well..
Done out of Here!
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24. June 2008 @ 02:34 |
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Originally posted by mrk44:
Oh, okay so the PSU comes with the power cable. I got that corsair 650TX from buy.com for $79.99 that I found earlier. Should come with everything I need. Thanks.
One more thing: Which length SATA cable do you recommend? Does it depend on the case build itself?
Yes it depends on the build. ;) The normal rule of thumb is 12" to 18" for a mid sized tower case. I think all the SATA cables that I have are 18" and I use them in the full tower case too. ;)
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24. June 2008 @ 02:49 |
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@Zoso
I thought you had PC-8500...so you have PC-6400...and your local shop cannot get the corsairs to run stable at rated speed?..or...are they OCing?...and just not getting good results?..
How trustworthy...and knowledgeable...is this local "PC Shop"?..
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24. June 2008 @ 02:58 |
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Originally posted by Lp531:
@Zoso
I thought you had PC-8500...so you have PC-6400...and your local shop cannot get the corsairs to run stable at rated speed?..or...are they OCing?...and just not getting good results?..
yeah the 6400 (its not built/done yet, i can change my mind. but yes there having problems with the 8500 / 1066 memory running stable at stock.heres the memory there having trouble with
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145043
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I just got the 4GB kit with the fans today...along with a 8800GT 1GB card...my HD4850 won't get here till Friday...I am looking at that board for my self...that or a DFI or Gigabyte...
Link to memory I just got today:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145197
Right now they are using the PC-6400 memory...what are the problems they are having?..
Have they tested the memory in another board?..and narrowed things down?..or are they working you...for maybe more $$$ for labor?..
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24. June 2008 @ 03:38 |
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Lp531,
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Right now they are using the PC-6400 memory...what are the problems they are having?..
Aside from the bios issue I had, I've had no problems with my 1066 Dominators and they will run at 1066 although they are running at 1060 at the moment. You shouldn't need the fans at all as they run very cool to begin with. Usually with most boards, the memory is right in the airstream for the CPU cooler. Just be sure to raise the voltage until it reads 2.10v in everest or something that shows the Dimm voltage.
On a funny note, I had a guy complaining that the 1066s don't OC very well. I looked him straight in the face and laughed! I told him they're already overclocked 266MHz now! What more would he like? LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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