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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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1. February 2010 @ 01:35 |
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Perfect example of why a second LAN(Ethernet) port would be handy for me. Got a 30Gb file that I wanna put on another pc. Don't wanna waste discs(or burning time in general), don't wanna go through the process of running my crossover cable, to have to remove it there after, don't have a large enough USB drive either. Go figure ;) Can't wait to get my new board with the dual LAN, triple PCI E, AM3, etc, etc.
What I'm doing instead is splitting the m2ts file(BD High def file) to multiple files(7zip), so I can use a flash drive to transfer. Didn't think it would take so long to split. 23.5 minutes. I guess it ain't that bad. Still have to transfer via the Thumb drive too. Wanna see if the HTPC can run the BD file. I imagine it can, but just how well is the mission! At least I can send almost half of it in one shot. 16Gb Flash drive :D
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Red_Maw
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1. February 2010 @ 01:54 |
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oman7, is the htpc not your network?
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What's the difference between these two MB's? All I notice the extra lan port (what are they used for? Only reason I used the second one my current board is because the first died lol) and the capability for 3-way sli (I think).
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1. February 2010 @ 02:08 |
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Network? No, no. The HTPC is merely a side project I worked on for my brother. His LCD TV was damaged, so i'm holding on to his HTPC, making it better and better til he's ready for it :)
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1. February 2010 @ 02:40 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
oman7, is the htpc not your network?
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What's the difference between these two MB's? All I notice the extra lan port (what are they used for? Only reason I used the second one my current board is because the first died lol) and the capability for 3-way sli (I think).
TIA
They do have different item numbers, and the board layout is slightly different. I'm curious as to why the two Gigabit Lans too! Sounds like a bargain to me, and for $80 less! :)
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1. February 2010 @ 04:21 |
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Oh yah! The HTPC plays it without hitch. Loving it :) The temperature hovered around 48-50C, cpu usage was roughly 65-80%(Fullscreen), and from the 5000AAKB IDE drive no less! I ripped the M2TS file from the IRONMAN BD disc, and the following player can play it :)
Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre 3 Platinum
The following hardware was used for the experiment.
Athlon 5200+ dual core processor(Stock 2.6)
Kingston HyperX 6400 2Gb X 2
5000AAKB IDE WD Hard drive
HEC 7K09 HTPC case(W/PSU)
K9N6SGM-V MSI MOBO (Taken from an older Barebone tower)
Board has onboard Nvidia 6100. It would appear that the CPU took on most the load LOL!
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1. February 2010 @ 04:26 |
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Maw: A second LAN port for SLI? Eh?
Omega: It's far better to setup a proper network than to use an extra network port. The extra port is just handy for emergencies. Has come in handy several times on my X48-DS4, but only because I haven't bothered with proper network infrastructure.
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1. February 2010 @ 04:37 |
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setting up a network in my current situation is a joke. Trust me! :)
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1. February 2010 @ 06:20 |
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OM7 - Why bother transferring the 30GB movie on a flash drive or whatever, can't you just play it across the network ?, 100MB ethernet is perfectly adequate to stream or play movies, it's only wireless that i don't use for such playing/transfers.
There's no setting up to do, even temporarily you can just plug a cable between the two machines via the switch on the router you just bought, knock up a couple temporary IP addresses and bob's your uncle. I only use a flash drive (well an 80GB notebook drive that acts as a glorified flash drive) for when the main Media PC is off.
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1. February 2010 @ 08:15 |
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Indeed, this is how I do it. Windows file shares allow any PC in the house to stream content off my server. Fortunately for me, the HTPC happens to be the same PC as the fileserver.
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1. February 2010 @ 08:27 |
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While it's on my mind yesterday i stumbled across an XBMC skin i hadn't heard of before, Rapier (example pics) ~
Took a few minutes to configure it how i liked it, have decided to keep my HTPC on Win7 now as XBMC with this skin makes playing movies quite seamless. There's even a search box in the skin so you can find movies easily. Very nice indeed, just need to find a cheap remote control that works with Win7 & XBMC and i can become a true coach potato.
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1. February 2010 @ 10:24 |
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The router isn't mine :p Still in the box too LOL! Perhaps you're right though. Far less tedious then the 7zip split and flash drive transfer. Of course!
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1. February 2010 @ 13:49 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
OM7 - Why bother transferring the 30GB movie on a flash drive or whatever, can't you just play it across the network ?, 100MB ethernet is perfectly adequate to stream or play movies, it's only wireless that i don't use for such playing/transfers.
There's no setting up to do, even temporarily you can just plug a cable between the two machines via the switch on the router you just bought, knock up a couple temporary IP addresses and bob's your uncle. I only use a flash drive (well an 80GB notebook drive that acts as a glorified flash drive) for when the main Media PC is off.
You make it sound so easy LOL! The last time I networked two PC's, it took a little more than your explanation. It's been quite some time since I did it. I imagine Windows 7 makes it even easier though. I wonder what XP - 7 would be like. Won't know for a while. Though it is tempting to run my older quad via XP, and have my newer gaming system run Windows 7. Oh, I suppose for gaming, windows 7 is darn near necessary LOL! Certainly since I have the future inclination to run at least Dual Crossfire ;)
What do people do with their old CRT monitors? Goodwill, Computer shops? Etc...
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1. February 2010 @ 13:52 |
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In cupboard for emergency uses :P
As for networking, it really isn't hard if you do it properly. Just obviously be advised the one fundamental flaw with Vista/Win7 is its networking. It's not uncommon for either OS to one day decide no more network access, and that's an end of it, reformat time. Fortunately it seems to take quite a while to occur.
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1. February 2010 @ 14:00 |
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Sounds like a bit of a nightmare LOL! Yah, I imagine it's pretty straightforward. I just need to begin it. I will, when I get my secondary, and primary hooked up together. Will it be possible to allow the Non host internet access, through the LAN, while the two PC's are connected? I never could get that setup right. Perhaps it was some flaw with the XP setup. Cause I'm certain that I specified to it, that the secondary pc would be connecting to the internet through the Host Pc.
I have 3 CRT's. Take up too much space :p
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1. February 2010 @ 14:02 |
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If you use a proper network, all PCs get internet access, no problems at all.
If you're using crossover networking, you will have to enable network connection sharing or setup the connections as a bridge.
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1. February 2010 @ 14:05 |
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Treat me like a complete Newb LOL! Define "Proper Network"
Much obliged :) TIA
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1. February 2010 @ 14:15 |
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LOL! I think that was a loaded question. There are different types of networks. Mine would be a basic Home network. Which would involve the use of a router, to be proper eh? I think I'm gonna have to just dive right in like I always do. Sometimes no amount of explaining can help me. I'm a kind of hands on kind of guy ;)
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1. February 2010 @ 14:30 |
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I mean a network, with clients and a hub (or better, a switch). Two PCs connected with a crossover cable isn't strictly a network IMO.
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1. February 2010 @ 14:36 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
They do have different item numbers, and the board layout is slightly different. I'm curious as to why the two Gigabit Lans too! Sounds like a bargain to me, and for $80 less! :)
Russ
That's what I was thinking too, it's the only "reasonably" priced 1366 MB with those features out there lol.
Originally posted by sammorris:
Maw: A second LAN port for SLI? Eh?
Not for SLI, just apart from having two lan ports the only other difference between those two boards I could find was support for 3-way sli. Granted I also read that flashing the UD3R with the bios for the UD5 would enable that feature so that puts the difference back to 1 vs. 2 lan ports.
Originally posted by omegaman7:
Treat me like a complete Newb LOL! Define "Proper Network"
Much obliged :) TIA
Not sure if this is the "proper" way to do it but hardware wise I just plug the internet connection into the WAN/Internet labeled port of the router and the computers into the other ports (usually labeled 1-x). I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't need configure the router before everything "worked" but I would never not manually configure the router (btw don't waste your time with the "setup" cd's that come with router's these days).
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1. February 2010 @ 14:39 |
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Ok, here's an interesting question to me.
Two computers, have an internet connection through a switch, the switch is connected to the DSL/Cable modem. No router is used, and the two computers cannot communicate with one another. Is this a network by any standard? Or would a router be needed(As well as intercommunication) to be considered a network.
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1. February 2010 @ 14:47 |
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Maw: Ah, your post was worded rather confusingly, that explains it. I am unsure of the licensing requirements for triple SLI if there are any beyond the standard license fee. However, triple SLI may require that the bandwidth of the third slot be 8x electrical, rather than 4x as is common, which would make sense from a performance perspective. Be aware that flashing the BIOS of a board without the specification may mean that you're running a card at 4x electrical (or in some cases, 1x) which may well have an impact on performance. It's not likely to be much of an issue at 4x this generation, but Fermi cards may cause issues with such little bandwidth.
With regard to WAN ports and routers, you only need a router if your modem has no routing functionality at all (or it's a terrible router and you want to use a better standalone - more common). If your modem does a decent job of routing, even if it only has a single ethernet port on it, it can be plugged straight into a switch. The benefits here are that you can buy Gigabit switches. Routers containing Gigabit switches are rare and you will be networking your PCs at 100Mbps (11MB/s maximum throughput)
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1. February 2010 @ 14:54 |
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I don't believe my Modem has any routing capabilities to speak of. Just a cheapy DSL modem. All I needed at the time.
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1. February 2010 @ 14:59 |
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THIS SITE seems to think that it has Router capabilities though. Interesting.
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1. February 2010 @ 15:14 |
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Here's how simple it is ~
I have my modem (with built in router but forget about the router side as i have the modem in modem only mode) - this provides the internet connection only (even the modem's wireless is turned off).
The modem is connected to my main router's WAN port (they can sometimes go into normal ports too, depends on your broadband connection, in my case i needed the WAN port specifically to enable certain functionality in DD-WRT otherwise i could just connect the modem into one of the router's normal switch ports, but i digress).
The main router has a 4-port switch and i have a 16-port switch hanging off this router. The main router provides wireless and DHCP. I use 'static DHCP' which is a combo of static and standard DHCP, so i get all the benefits of static addresses but with the flexibility of DHCP.
Basically i have 20 devices in my DHCP 'scope' thus every PC and games console will always get the same IP address each time.
This screenie then makes sense (just ignore the top two Linksys's as they're spare routers stacked on top just to keep the main router (3rd one down) and 16-port switch (bottom one) from tipping over due to the weight of all the ethernet cables.
The modem is the white O2 box on the wall to the side of the Linksys stack ~
Home networking really is that simple, of course routers have other features and settings but so do most gadgets, ignore all that for now and it really is that simple :)
The 2 routers in the other rooms are connected to the main router via ethernet (via the 16-port switch) with DHCP turned off so for the wired side of things they're in effect just switches, but with wireless too so they're really wireless access points (the wireless coverage is very good as is provided by 3 routers dotted around the rooms).
edit- OM7, due to the type of modem you have i'm guessing you'd have to hang a router off it via the WAN port, my kids and folks are on cable broadband and the only way they can have the broadband on more than one machine is to hang a standard router off the modem's WAN port.
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1. February 2010 @ 15:22 |
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Simple? I see 5 boxes... We use 4 and one of them is almost completely redundant, used only for wireless.
Modem ->>> Router ->>> Switch ->>> PCs/Printer/Xbox etc
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