PAL to NTSC
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carlitob
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8. July 2003 @ 16:46 |
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Check out this post i found
Quote: found an easy way to convert PAL dvd to NTSC dvd without loosing quality.
Here goes -
You will need the following:
SmartRipper
ac3decgui
DVDX 1.7 or above
Some kind of dvd authoring software
(I use dvdit pe)
and ofcourse burning software
(I use Nero 5.5.99)
OK, now using smartripper, you will need to strip the movie VOB files, the video_ts.ifo and VTS_01_0.IFO to the hard drive, you will also need to Demux the audio 6ch to a separate file, this file will be saved as a .AC3 file. Once you have these files you will then convert your .AC3 to wave using ac3decgui. Now that you have your VOB files and your wav file you can begin to convert from PAL to ntsc.
Here is where you open dvdx 1.7 or above, select file / open ifo, then go to where your VOB files are and select the VTS_01_0.IFO for input, now select only the following:
use aspi
demacrovision
dolby surround
(from the drop down) select english AC3 6ch
(from the drop down) select 29.97 (NTSC)
Detect progr. 24HZ
Audio / Video synchronization
Select OK
If you get an error auth.dll, ignore and select OK
From here go to your output settings, select Super Vidio CD (mpeg2)
change your resolution size to 720x480 click the whole button
select the custom button
change the max output size to 4300mb
click apply
change your audio bitrate kbits to 384
Click Apply
Select your Ouput folder, save your file with the name of the movie and save as a .mpg file.
Then select Encode, sit back and wait. Usually takes about 4 - 8 hours. When this is complete, you can watch the converted movie as normal. To convert to dvd playable, you would use your authoring software, and if you know how to do that you will have a recreated disc with minimal loss of quality in no time. I've done this with the Back to the future movies, and have been extremely happy with the outcome, no choppy picture, no flashes, just normal movie.
Good Luck!!!!! Worked for me, Hope it works for you!!!
I am trying this method the only thing i did different was raise the bitrate to make the file output 4400MB
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18. October 2003 @ 17:55 |
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Thank You for the info Carlitob, ill have to try it out.
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koola
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19. October 2003 @ 01:02 |
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Thx for the info carlitob, nice work!
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Praetor
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29. February 2004 @ 16:55 |
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What happens if Ive got a bunch of PAL AVI files? Would it be easier to make a PAL DVD and then convert to NTSC DVD (which is the final objective) or is there some trickery to prevent pitch of the voices from going through the roof when i do a 25->29.97 on the AC3?
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carlitob
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29. February 2004 @ 20:29 |
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I would think the easiest way would be to change the avi's to NTSC then use authoring software but in all honesty im not sure. ever since I got DVD2One, DVD Decrypter and my netflix subscription I have stopped everything else.
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Praetor
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1. March 2004 @ 01:43 |
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Ya i figured :P
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1. March 2004 @ 23:48 |
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Much, much easier way.
Rip the files using DVD decrypter in stream processing mode.
Use TMPGEnc plus, input your PAL/NTSC video and simply set the output to the format you need to convert to.
Or else use Adobe After Effects.
These both do the job automatically. It's a no brainer, it really is!
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 1. March 2004 @ 23:48
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Praetor
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2. March 2004 @ 00:14 |
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Whoa... rewind a bit.... ive got a bunch of AVI files with AC3 audio. Are you suggesting I make a PAL dvd, rip it to NTSC AVI and make and NTSC DVD (which is what i was planning on doing)
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2. March 2004 @ 01:05 |
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Praetor - no.
What i was suggesting was a way I have found works in the past. It may not with what you want to do.
I'd try using DVD Decrypter and rip the files to the original format, and then put these into TMPGEnc with the output from TMPGEnc set to the format you require.
I did this from an NTSC DVD to a PAL one with a single movie file and a 5.1 AC3, and it worked a treat. All you really need to worry about is extracting the files using stream processing. Make sure that filesplitting is turned OFF, and use IFO mode. You'll get a separate AC3 file plus an M2V file. Bang the M2V file through TMPGEnc, and don't worry about the AC3 as it's already ripped.
Then I used EncoreDVD to put the 2 back together.
Hope this clarifies things - it was a bit early when I posted, and reading it back I just didn't explain myself very well at all. I really do apologise for that!
Worked a treat for me.
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2. March 2004 @ 07:33 |
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damm nice thread glad someone dug it up ~heh
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caneto
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25. March 2004 @ 09:57 |
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How to convert VOB direct, without losses, with menus etc etc.
Because the Menu is a VOB (with film and actions)...
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tdfuller
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1. April 2004 @ 14:32 |
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Have any of you guys been able to successfully also convert the subtitles from PAL to NTSC???
I have converted and burned a couple of NTSC DVD movies, from PAL, that work great, using DVD2AVI, TMPGEnc, and DVD Builder to author, but I lose subtitles along the way.
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macgybl
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13. April 2004 @ 13:35 |
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how do I use TMPGEnc after I use DVD Decrypter, where do I select the IFO options etc. Any help is much appreciated
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tdfuller
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13. April 2004 @ 13:43 |
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You must first use DVD2AVI to convert the video to AVI format necessary for TMPGEnc. DVD2AVI also will Demux the video file. I Demux it to AC3 format. Once you are done with DVD2AVI, I load the AVI video file in to TEMPGENC using the applicable template (NTSC to PAL or vice versa) and run the conversion. Make sure you check the box to save the video file as an elementary video stream so that you may be able to combine it, with the AC3 audio file, in your encoder later.
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tomquest
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19. April 2004 @ 12:08 |
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If an image is in NTSC and PAL will the sector count be different? Will they be different lenghts? If so which will be longer?
Thanks,
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andmerr
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21. April 2004 @ 03:03 |
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Got an AVI file about 137meg.Used TMPGEnc to convert it to a dvd for PAL 4:3 europe.Then used TMPGEnc dvd author to burn it to dvd-r.
The problem i have is its not as good as the original format.Its come out sort of blocky but the whole thing is there.Is there something i have done wrong in the process to get it like this or do you guys suggest an alternative.
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15. May 2004 @ 13:28 |
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>> Have any of you guys been able to successfully also convert the subtitles from PAL to NTSC???
I had the same problem (using NeroVision to do the conversion) -- and Ahead's website says directly that NeroVision doesn't support subtitles.
In the end, I decided that since the disc was in a language I couldn't understand at all I might as well burn the subtitles into the video permanently, which you can do as follows: (1) extract the subtitles you want with VobSub, (2) Demux with DVD2AVI, (3) convert the AC3 to wav with ac3decgui, (4) create a pseudo-AVI for the d2v with vfapiconv, (5) frameserve the pseudo-AVI using VirtualDub with VobSub activated in the filters dialog to show the subtitles (frameserve using an AVI rather than a vdr extension), (6) using TMPGEnc combine the frameserved AVI including subtitles with the wav file. According to the earlier messages in this thread, you could convert directly to NTSC at this point in TMPGEnc, but I didn't realize it, so NeroVision may not actually be necessary at all (and if this works right it would save one of the two 8-hour steps). Then if necessary just run DVD Shrink to make the DVD small enough to burn; even if you have to shrink it alot the burned-in subtitles should still be legible.
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mgilmar
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24. May 2004 @ 09:23 |
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I'm in the process of converting a PAL DVD to NTSC and I'd like to know what, if anything is involved other than the frame-rate conversion. If it's a 2-hour movie at 25 fps, then wouldn't the NTSC version end up being shorter than 2 hours? If so, how can I leave the ripped AC3 file alone and expect it to be in sync when I re-join the m2v and AC3 for the DVD? Also, why do some suggest converting AC3 to WAV and then back, while others suggest leaving the AC3 alone?
Thanks.
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24. May 2004 @ 09:36 |
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I am admittedly inexperienced in this area despite having figured out the subtitle thing, but...in addition to the framerate difference, which is handled by inserting frames to make up the difference (sometimes by doubling them, sometimes by interpolating them -- NeroVision does a good job of making this imperceptible on the discs I've tried), there is also a resolution difference (PAL has more vertical pixels). Again NeroVision does a good job of reframing the video, as do the other options people have recommended here (some programs simply squeeze the image vertically, others interpolate to stretch it, others shrink it but preserve the aspect ratio by putting letterboxes at the sides). I had to convert AC3 to wav because I couldn't figure out how to get TMPGEnc to accept AC3 directly, but perhaps it's possible. There was no need to resync the audio and video because NeroVision's (and presumably the other programs too) output was the same length as the original due to the inserted frames.
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carlitob
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29. May 2004 @ 15:17 |
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This is awesome, I started this thread almost a year ago and it's still going!
Props to me :P
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1. June 2004 @ 10:51 |
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LOL nice one :P
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tort
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15. June 2004 @ 16:59 |
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Okay, enough of all this HARD stuff....
Simple solution:
Buy mediostreams NeoDVDplus 5..
Here is what I did:
I put a PAL Region 2 DVD into my DVD player.
I opened NeoDVDPlus 5, selected Video. Make a DVD. Get Video files, all the VOB files from the PAL DVD. I then clicked on Make DVD, and chose one of my DVD Recorders. I then set it up to make playable on NTSC, and clicked on make DVD.
Now, all the VOB files are NTSC and will play on my NTSC DVD players.
NeoDVDplus 5 can be purchased from mediostream for $49.95.
Isn't that a lot simpler than RIP the DVD, then use this to convert the PAL AVI to NTSC AVI, etc., etc...?
I think so.
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carlitob
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15. June 2004 @ 18:54 |
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Yes i agree it is easier but who wants to pay for software. NOT ME!
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15. June 2004 @ 23:31 |
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Plus does that include the subtitles? NeroVision can do everything...except for the subtitles.
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tort
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16. June 2004 @ 04:01 |
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All I know is the DVDs I'm doing are French subtitled, you have to turn subtitles off to not see the subtitles.
NeoDVDplus 5 converts the VIDEO fine, there are no subtitles displayed on the NTSC DVD, I haven't tried selecting subtitles.
Easy Media Creator is supposed to offer PAL to NTSC conversion as well, it will copy DVDs with all features, but there's no conversion from PAL to NTSC that I can see in the disc copier section.
I just got Canopus 2, I was trying 1.5, so I'll see what it can do, but if I have to RIP the DVD files, it will not accept VOB files, or at least 1.5 wouldn't, it's useless to me.
NeoDVDplus also lets you select Quality of video, from what I understand, it will let you put 3 1/2 hours on a DVD.
The latest DVD I'm trying says it will result in a 5520 size file, and there is only 4400 availablke on a DVD, I guess it has to do with converting PAL, NTSC is a larger file, if I select Better instead of Best video, it reduces the file to 3320 size, but the video quality will be lower.
I'm going to try not copying the extras, the interview, trailers, etc., and see if I can do it in Best mode that way.
At least with other authoring software, they adjust the video to fit on the DVD, not make such major loss of quality. I guess it's the compression used by NeoDVDplus 5.
I know places on the net offer conversion from PAL to NTSC DVDs, but I don't know what they use to do it. My only other choice is to capture the video, audio tracks separate, then create new menus, etc., and author a new DVD after converting the video.
I thought the thread was looking for a simple way to convert the DVD video, which neoDVDplus does.
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