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I totally agree. Why risk the computer or any of it's components on a PSU you know will fail. That could wind up costing you more than a decent PSU!

Is that why you don't favor Coolmax PSU's at all? well sorry to say.I have the Coolmax CU-500B 500W for 8 months now (No Problems) powering the ep35c-ds3r rev 2.1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159087
now with the E8400 EO at 3.7ghz in the Antec 300 Case now with a low end video card( A minimum 300W system power supply)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133245
running Windows Xp Home 32 bit Hooked up to the Network,True indeed it did'nt get any good reviews but for $30 at micro center.I could'en pass it up back then and modular to True it's only pushing out 480 watts max it's quiet enough me not to hear...Got a customer build coming up for a co-worker that just came back to work from lay off,working to put the I45 back together with new hardware and Core 2 Duo 86 0r 87 and .I'm not paying over $200 for them either.I got a deal brewing in the works:)

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Originally posted by bigwill68:
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I totally agree. Why risk the computer or any of it's components on a PSU you know will fail. That could wind up costing you more than a decent PSU!

Is that why you don't favor Coolmax PSU's at all? well sorry to say.I have the Coolmax CU-500B 500W for 8 months now (No Problems) powering the ep35c-ds3r rev 2.1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159087
now with the E8400 EO at 3.7ghz in the Antec 300 Case now with a low end video card( A minimum 300W system power supply)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133245
running Windows Xp Home 32 bit Hooked up to the Network,True indeed it did'nt get any good reviews but for $30 at micro center.I could'en pass it up back then and modular to True it's only pushing out 480 watts max it's quiet enough me not to hear...Got a customer build coming up for a co-worker that just came back to work from lay off,working to put the I45 back together with new hardware and Core 2 Duo 86 0r 87 and .I'm not paying over $200 for them either.I got a deal brewing in the works:)

Happy Building
Ya'll
BigWilly you can put anything in your rig that you want to.. I just like the proven stuff better... plus I've heard some NOT so good things about CoolMax. :(



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
If corsair makes a TFX PSU, please, point me in the right direction. It'll be in the HTPC quicker than you can blink! I haven't read any reviews stating that the HEC PSU fried other components. That is fairly rare when PSU's do that... *knocking on wood*
I'm not sure that Corsair makes one but I'd put either on of these in there. ;)

TFX psu's at the EGG

Seasonic speaks for itself but I've heard good things about certain models of FSP. ;) good luck buddy!!!

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Thanks gm. I have been eyeing that seasonic for a little while now. Unfortunately, I may have to mod the case to fit it in there. At least I can probably trust the seasonic though. Which makes it worth it ;) Not heard a lot about FSP. In fact I think you're the first one to recommend it.



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Haven't played with XP for a while. I installed XP SP3 Fullmaza edition on the HTPC. Wasn't really planning on keeping it. Just playing really. The poor athlon 5200 runs at 90% usage while playing back a BD rip. Where windows 7 averaged roughly 70-80%. File transfers via sata to usb took twice as long as windows 7. I think it'll serve decent as an HTPC for a few months though. Til my brother can afford to purchase windows 7. I guess you just can't beat windows 7's optimizations :p From the screen shots, I thought it would be very similar to windows vista/7. Apparently it's closer to XP than it is to vista/7. Pretty sharp OS though.



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I guess you just can't beat windows 7's optimizations :p
You most certainly can :p
I did say i was keeping my HTPC on Win7 due to using XBMC, but when i get around to trying XBMC out in linux (i think linux-wise XBMC only really caters for Ubuntu and Ubuntu is too bloated and commercial for my liking), if i can figure out how to get it running in Puppy linux or a.n.other small & lean linux distro, Win7 is still for the chop. Win7 may be smooth running, but it isn't free and it certainly isn't as light as Puppy.



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I won't argue that :P

While my brother is intelligent, I can't see him using linux in the foreseeable future. He's the type who wants to sit down, and just have the OS work. I don't know much about linux, but from what I have seen, it's definitely not for the layman, or for somebody who uses a bunch of softwares catered for Microsoft OS's.

I on the other hand, may just consider using linux on my secondary. Not certain yet. I'll know when I get my new quad system going. I wouldn't mind a super challenge about now. Keeps the mind active ;)



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It absolutely does keep the mind active. Being out of work and not using linux i'd have been carted away to a rubber room wearing a white long sleeved jacket by now :p
For years i made a point of not really using linux at home, ie not bringing work home so to speak, but using a mouse driven OS too long isn't good for the old grey matter. Don't be unduly put off by linux, it's quite easy, the only difficult bit is if ever there aren't drivers for a specific device or whatever, linux itself is dead easy. Here's an example, i've never used MacOS (have just never found a want or need for it, i doubt i ever will but i digress as usual). But if i did i'll wager it's dead easy to get a handle on, it's just that i've never used it.
Don't get me wrong, i love the simplicity of Windows as much as the next person, but it's just far too simple :p



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Originally posted by creaky:
It absolutely does keep the mind active. Being out of work and not using linux i'd have been carted away to a rubber room wearing a white long sleeved jacket by now :p
For years i made a point of not really using linux at home, ie not bringing work home so to speak, but using a mouse driven OS too long isn't good for the old grey matter. Don't be unduly put off by linux, it's quite easy, the only difficult bit is if ever there aren't drivers for a specific device or whatever, linux itself is dead easy. Here's an example, i've never used MacOS (have just never found a want or need for it, i doubt i ever will but i digress as usual). But if i did i'll wager it's dead easy to get a handle on, it's just that i've never used it.
Don't get me wrong, i love the simplicity of Windows as much as the next person, but it's just far too simple :p
So I need to start using LINUX to keep me fresh and out of the rubber room?? ROFL

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If you're already in there it'll take more than an OS associated with beards and sandals LMAO.



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so will the current 4.3.1 Puppy linux work on quad cores? Their homepage speaks of dual cores, but not quads. It could merely be an example though...
This could INDEED be challenging LOL! The ISO is the only thing I need to get started right?

I think I'll experiment with the HTPC first LOL!



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Yeah it works fine. As i can't be bothered to install Puppy on the Quad i have it running from a USB stick, i just boot from that on the Quad the odd times i try it out on there. The good thing about a USB install is that i can use said stick on any machine and it'll work, it doesn't care about the hardware underneath it, the stick gets swapped between ancient P3's, P4's, C2D or Quad, AMD or Intel, it doesn't care.
Yep, just an ISO, it's only about 50MB, chuck it on a CD or a make a bootable USB stick to save using a CD (some machines even boot off SD cards in pound shop card readers).
And if you want to reuse the USB stick for something else you can just copy all files off the stick to a save area on the PC somewhere, reuse the stick for a.n.other purpose. If you want Puppy back on the stick, just copy the saved files back on.



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Lightweight indeed creaky! The iso is only 100Mb. Thats incredibly light! I bet that's as small as they come eh.



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Indeed it is tiny. I just don't subscribe to the whole 'buying an OS' thing, i've never done it once, ever :o



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Originally posted by creaky:
Indeed it is tiny. I just don't subscribe to the whole 'buying an OS' thing, i've never done it once, ever :o
Ya shameful bugger you!!! :p

I've paid for a couple but they were from my local University which makes 'em REAL CHEAP!! :)

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Currently running on a limited 3 use license of 7 Professional x64 from my school. Got it for free and it's mine forever. Only downside is 3 installs allowed period on one machine. Don't forsee having to reformat any time soon and my other machines run XP Pro so I think it'll last me a long time ;P





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Estuansis, Are you saying that any one machine, windows 7 serials can only be used 3 times before a red flag? Surely I misunderstood you LOL!

Looks like the HTPC board doesn't like booting from Flash drives. Unless I setup the drive wrong. One drive game me an i/o error. Where as the other said that the boot manager was missing. I wouldn't doubt that the one with the first error, was simply because that drive doesn't support it. But the other makes me think that i've done something wrong. Shouldn't the flash drive only need the contents of the iso creaky? Just a simple transfer/copy paste LOL! Probably more to it than that. Seems like I read somewhere that flash drives need to be setup properly for booting.



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You need to make the flash drive bootable first. See here for info ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/774914/4692005



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Thanks man. MUCH appreciated :)



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No problem. It's time i went back to bed and tried to actually get some sleep :p



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Well, it didn't work. On either of my boards. I fooled with multiple settings in the bios. Perhaps its time I consulted both manuals, and some linux forums. I do appreciate your time though creaky :)



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Originally posted by bigwill68:
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Russ Wrote:

I totally agree. Why risk the computer or any of it's components on a PSU you know will fail. That could wind up costing you more than a decent PSU!

Is that why you don't favor Coolmax PSU's at all? well sorry to say.I have the Coolmax CU-500B 500W for 8 months now (No Problems) powering the ep35c-ds3r rev 2.1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159087
now with the E8400 EO at 3.7ghz in the Antec 300 Case now with a low end video card( A minimum 300W system power supply)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133245
running Windows Xp Home 32 bit Hooked up to the Network,True indeed it did'nt get any good reviews but for $30 at micro center.I could'en pass it up back then and modular to True it's only pushing out 480 watts max it's quiet enough me not to hear...Got a customer build coming up for a co-worker that just came back to work from lay off,working to put the I45 back together with new hardware and Core 2 Duo 86 0r 87 and .I'm not paying over $200 for them either.I got a deal brewing in the works:)

Happy Building
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Will,
Strike three! LOL!! I was talking about, and answering Oman7's comments on the HEK TFX PSU! Oman7 said that he was going to let it run it's course! I've seen everything from blown motherboards, CPUs, drives and even chipsets damaged by bad PSUs! Oh, I forgot memory. It just depends on the type of short. Most common is the +12v shorting across the 5v line! Not too good for any running drive, and man they stink! Just a little pop and a puff or two of smoke and it's bye, bye, burner!

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Originally posted by creaky:
Yeah it works fine. As i can't be bothered to install Puppy on the Quad i have it running from a USB stick, i just boot from that on the Quad the odd times i try it out on there. The good thing about a USB install is that i can use said stick on any machine and it'll work, it doesn't care about the hardware underneath it, the stick gets swapped between ancient P3's, P4's, C2D or Quad, AMD or Intel, it doesn't care.
Yep, just an ISO, it's only about 50MB, chuck it on a CD or a make a bootable USB stick to save using a CD (some machines even boot off SD cards in pound shop card readers).
And if you want to reuse the USB stick for something else you can just copy all files off the stick to a save area on the PC somewhere, reuse the stick for a.n.other purpose. If you want Puppy back on the stick, just copy the saved files back on.
That sounds awesome, think I'll try puppy out before deciding on the final OS for my server (the server is the machine whose OS changes weekly when I'm bored).


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Estuansis, Are you saying that any one machine, windows 7 serials can only be used 3 times before a red flag? Surely I misunderstood you LOL!
Surely you did ;P

I'm not sure about the full commercial version of Win 7. But my copy is a student version. I get to keep it even after I'm through with school, but it is only good for 3 reinstalls on one machine. I'm sure you can use it on other machines, but the idea is 3 installs period. You can only use one at once.



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That kind of sucks. But I suppose 3 installs is plenty in the right conditions. If they ever try to cancel my serial, I'll just get it via other means ;) Or I'll switch to something else, Like linux with wine. Can't seem to get puppy to work. Not sure if it was a bad disc, or whether my hardware isn't supported or not. People with similar boards run it though. And my manual doesn't mention anything about booting from USB drive. I'll figure it out though. I don't usually give up easily :p



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