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9. February 2010 @ 14:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No speed issues here on my hard-drive based Win7 machines. No way would i spend hundreds of pounds on what is just a jumped up SD card, i don't care how fast they are. Each to their own though, as long as it's not my money :)



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Indeed. Even my 2001 HP pavilion has 2gb :) From what I've heard about SSD, even windows 7 will see an improvement. But then, most of my data will be stored on other drives, so...

I just wanna see all the hype. ;)



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Well, given that early SSDs such as the OCZ Solid Series were slower than mechanical drives, that shows both how important getting a good one is, and also how slight the performance gain is. You need a best of the best SSD to really notice a big speed difference between it and a mechanical HDD, and if you already own one of the fastest mechanical drives out there, it shouldn't take much to see that there's not going to be a vast improvement. Don't get me wrong, I still want an SSD, but it offers the weakest performance per pound of any of my future potential upgrades, including spending £400 moving from a Q9550 to an i5.



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Looks like I'll be delving into a slight Stereo receiver rebuild LOL! I posted a pic a few days ago, about my new desktop configuration. One of my monitors is sitting on top of the stereo receiver. It only blocks half of the air vent. Apparently that could be enough to heat things up. It's also possible that a fan went out. I set my hand on top of it recently. It was VERY warm to the touch. If it were any warmer, it would be approaching scalding temperature. I'm hoping that the fan/s inside are same/similar to PC specifications (12Volts). I've opened up other types of equipment in the past, and noticed they were 12v. Perhaps 12v is more universal then I think. Certainly hope so LOL! Because:
1. it's my fathers stereo
2. I love it LOL!
3. if it dies, I'll be without sound for a while...



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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
i doubt it. eeryday use one will notice a much snappier computer moving to an SSD rather than gettign more ram or a new mobo or overclocking a CPU or even a new CPU (well unless one is going from a P4 :P)

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I agree with Sam! You are overplaying the SSD's role. The average person could care less, and have far less computer than most of us here have. That's why they still sell Celerons! LOL!!

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Eh, we'll see how much better my gameplay increases :p





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(by omegaman7)One of my monitors is sitting on top of the stereo receiver. It only blocks half of the air vent. Apparently that could be enough to heat things up. It's also possible that a fan went out. I set my hand on top of it recently. It was VERY warm to the touch. If it were any warmer, it would be approaching scalding temperature

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DUH!!! What do you think all those louvers are for on the top of the stereo, to keep your toast and coffee warm! LOL!! It's very doubtful that the stereo has a fan, as they usually don't. You need to find another place for that monitor. I don't understand why on earth didn't you move the monitor when you discovered how warm it was to begin with?

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Because the vent is large, and the monitor is only covering maybe half of it. Though I just looked, and it looks like there is something in there separating one half of the receiver. So basically, one half of the receiver is not exhausting. I'm gonna rethink the monitor situation LOL!
I unblocked the hole. Now lets see how warm it gets LOL!



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It could be 12V as that is common for a lot of electrical devices, but it could also be 5V, or a.c. mains voltage (unlikely for a stereo receiver, more common for devices with mains-powered components)
Most receivers don't contain fans unless they are very compact and contain large amplifiers.



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Its a fairly powerful receiver. It weighs upwards of 25lbs LOL! Maybe 30+...



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Boy do I feel silly. That receiver puts out some serious heat out the vent. Covering it up was NOT a good idea LOL! I currently have the monitor still there, but raised up and positioned on stands. VERY warm nearly hot air comes out of there. I might consider a fan if it doesn't employ one. It might increase its longevity ;)



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Most stuff like that is designed to run hot. As long as you can touch it without it becoming too hot to bear, it's fine.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
It could be 12V as that is common for a lot of electrical devices, but it could also be 5V, or a.c. mains voltage (unlikely for a stereo receiver, more common for devices with mains-powered components)
Most receivers don't contain fans unless they are very compact and contain large amplifiers.

Sam,
Most receivers here in the US have AC mains. They convert the power to low voltage DC just like a PSU. The amount of DC voltage depends on the design. Even in the day of tubes, they still converted to low voltage DC current for the electronics.

I've never even seen fans in a receiver, but I have seen them in high Power amps!

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Yes I know that, but usually if all the electronics run off low voltage DC, so will the fan. Only when most of the components of a device run off mains voltage is the fan powered by it.



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man i love this modular PSU and i dont even have it in tower yet. for 1 love it that its all black, minus the dark blue corsair lettering, i untied the 24pin and 8pin cables to see how long they were. id say they are bout 6 inches longer than my TX650. 3 sata connectors with 3 plugins on each is really nice. then 4 yes 4 PCIe cables, and 2 ide cables with 3 plugins on it.. which i wont be needing those as i will not have anything IDE in this build. TBH the prettiest thing i got today to finish receiving all my parts has to be the new Optairc AD7240S odd.. sweetest thing since melted chocolate....lol might have to get me 3 more of them.. maybe even a external one.. or 3..lol im joking now. i cant get that many. GM would get jelous and have to get a couple more to collect dust on...lol
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
man i love this modular PSU and i dont even have it in tower yet. for 1 love it that its all black, minus the dark blue corsair lettering, i untied the 24pin and 8pin cables to see how long they were. id say they are bout 6 inches longer than my TX650. 3 sata connectors with 3 plugins on each is really nice. then 4 yes 4 PCIe cables, and 2 ide cables with 3 plugins on it.. which i wont be needing those as i will not have anything IDE in this build. TBH the prettiest thing i got today to finish receiving all my parts has to be the new Optairc AD7240S odd.. sweetest thing since melted chocolate....lol might have to get me 3 more of them.. maybe even a external one.. or 3..lol im joking now. i cant get that many. GM would get jelous and have to get a couple more to collect dust on...lol
The collect dust part is dead on... but "get a couple more" is NOT gonna happen... me bride would kick me arse!!! ROFL. I"m looking at 6 sitting by me computer table and I have 2 in the plastic somewhere in the room. (which makes 8 btw) lol. It's truly sad it is!! btw... one of the ones in plastic is a AD-7200S. :D :D :D

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nice nice nice. id say you could get a NICE price on ebay for that puppy... i got a feeling the AD7240S is gonna be like the 7200S and be real hard to find within the next couple months. seriously looking into getting a couple more of them. seeing i am only gonna have 3 odd's in the 922 when i get it together tonight(not up and running yet waiting on hdd and win7 to put on it)so thats 3 hdd's and 3 odd's im just waiting to see/hear the wind tunnel fire up with all 3 of them monster fans in it..lol oh yea the pretty red lights too..
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Well, according to tracking, Western Digital got the RMA'd Velociraptor today. So hopefully they'll be contacting me about the skinny before too long :) I hope this goes ok. Never done an RMA through them before, and their procedure for making everything perfect was rather intimidating LOL! Should be ok though...



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everything is in place for build zone..lol i got everything now minus the 320gb hdd that im gonna put win 7 on. but the 250gb hdd has XP on it so i can fire it up once done putting it all together. here is the before pic.



ok im off to put it together.

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Wow, you put the 8800 back in its box for the photo shoot :)



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I didn't even know 25 hd's were available anymore
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Yeah, you can still buy 80s, 160s, 250s, 320s and 500s of the 'old' size groups.



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Originally posted by FredBun:
I didn't even know 25 hd's were available anymore
Fred it was a typo.. lol. He meant 250GB. ;)

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Heck... I'm digging the CARS Crocks at the end of the couch.... :D :D :D

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Oh I thought it was Fred that had made the typo, I didn't spot Rob's :P



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