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The (new) Official PC building thread!
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shuboy00
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9. May 2007 @ 19:56 |
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I built my new rig right, and I have an E6600 with a NVIDIA NForce 680i SLi mobo. I was wonder how can OC my E6600 so that it can get up to like 3.4GHz or something like that???
Thanks in advance.
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9. May 2007 @ 20:07 |
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Doc Ty OC's the 680 board...Mort will know who else is running one...I would post over in the OC thread...
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9. May 2007 @ 23:31 |
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Please remember when trying to answer questions, keep it simple, some people need it nice and simple or it all gets too confusing.
Not everyone is capable of reading articles, no matter how capable they are of asking questions with a bad attitute, it's all too much like hard work.
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is their any explanation of the different timings.I think I read somewhere,that lower was faster
So you were actaully asking, only the following:
1:Is there an explanation?
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2:For someone to confirm if you had read that article.
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1:Yes there are plenty of expanations.
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2: Probably not (all too much like hard work seemingly)
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6spdSER
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10. May 2007 @ 09:19 |
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@Mort81, Lp531, whomever
Going back to rick's mem question: and the general rule of thumb of a lower CAS # being faster than a higher one. Is there really that much of a difference between a CAS2 or 3 stick when it comes to normal everyday computing? Meaning would one see seconds saved in load/processing time?
I've personally opted for higher CAS # sticks, because of price for one, but also I imagined it to only to affect, in nanoseconds, OC'ers and heavy users (database/3D rendering). Have I been missing out on a truly fast computing experience all these years?
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10. May 2007 @ 09:54 |
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The differences in cas are minimal...however to some it is worth it...and it is noticeable...
One thing to consider is lower cas usually means better quality memory...To me nanoseconds add up at the end of the day...Speed is everything...
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10. May 2007 @ 10:04 |
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Is there really that much of a difference between a CAS2 or 3 stick when it comes to normal everyday computing?
not really. but since the price difference between ddr cas2 and cas2.5 and the difference between ddr2 cas4 and cas5 is usually only a few dollars in relationship to the total cost, you might as well spend the extra few dollars on the better memory.
if you're spending $1,500 - 2,000 on a state of the art build, why get stingy by saving $20 - 30 on lesser quality memory.
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10. May 2007 @ 10:16 |
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If you're spending $1,500 - 2,000 on a state of the art build, why get stingy by saving $20 - 30 on lesser quality memory.
@Mort
I could not agree more...memory is not the place to skimp on a build...
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Red_Maw
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10. May 2007 @ 13:25 |
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The post I read did not specify PCI or PCIe. I realized that the next day and figured they must have meant PCI, not PCIe. Thanks.
On a different note though I am going to be building a system a couple weeks now and haven't figured out how I'll load the OS. Since I will be assembling the system myself, and will be using a brand new unformatted HDD, should I just put everything together and turn it on, even though the HDD doesn't have an OS installed? Or would you recomend using a HDD with an OS on it to make sure everything works and is stable?
Thanks.
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10. May 2007 @ 13:43 |
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You will want to install OS on your system after assembly...Not a big Deal...What OS are you installing?..
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Red_Maw
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10. May 2007 @ 15:40 |
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I haven't decided yet. I was thinking about Vista but haven't done any research on it (don't know anyting about it) so I'm not sure I wan't to spend the money for it considering I can probably get XP or 2000 for free. I'd like to do a dual boot with FedoraCore or RedHat, but that can done later after I have an OS that I know installed.
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6spdSER
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10. May 2007 @ 16:53 |
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Thanks for the feedback. I think upgrading from my DDR to DDR2 alone should speed up my system significantly, but if the lower CAS is better as everyone says, then I guess it would be worth the few extra dollars.
I see that many of you prefer Corsair XMS2 sticks but has anyone had any luck with other brands?
Cheers!
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pszczoll
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11. May 2007 @ 14:08 |
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Hey . My sister just got married and i need to build a pc for her husband. I dont know any budget , it just should be for normal use , and a little bit gaming . He wans something thats cheap but good , its just a case. There need to be 1 pci-e on mobo , some fast cpu (no need for core duo). sound can be onboard. also some 800Mhz memory.
please post some ideas. and suggestions . Thanks
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11. May 2007 @ 15:02 |
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@the Gurus!!
Hey I just thought of something. Yep I can think sorta. LOL. Is there anything special you have to do when installing a X2 dual core AMD cpu?
TIA for your answers. :)
.....gm
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11. May 2007 @ 15:28 |
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@6spdSER
You can't just upgrade from DDR to DDR2, you'll need a completely new system to run it, as the two types are different physically.
DDR2 is 240 pin 1.8V
DDR is 184 Pin 2.5V
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11. May 2007 @ 16:05 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
@the Gurus!!
Hey I just thought of something. Yep I can think sorta. LOL. Is there anything special you have to do when installing a X2 dual core AMD cpu?
TIA for your answers. :)
.....gm
Not much, install a good after market HSF, and some AS5, and you should be good to go, oh, and some good memory.
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11. May 2007 @ 16:16 |
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@Greensman
No...nothing different...However your OS...if you have "Microsoft Genuine Advantage" might not like it...
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11. May 2007 @ 16:19 |
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why is that???
Chuck
"Men are slower to recognize blessings than misfortunes." Titus Livius (59BC-17AD)
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11. May 2007 @ 16:21 |
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Originally posted by Neverhap:
Not much, install a good after market HSF, and some AS5, and you should be good to go, oh, and some good memory.
Ok, got the aftermarket HSF, AS5, and the memory isn't to bad. DDR stuff you know. :)
@Lp531,
Not quite sure on the GMA stuff. :) I have XP Pro if that means anything. Wouldn't touch M$ Vista right now with a 100' pole. LOL.
Thanks for the answers people. :)
...gm
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11. May 2007 @ 16:24 |
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11. May 2007 @ 16:39 |
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@greensman
I am assuming you are just replacing the chip on your current system...not a new install...
If you have installed "MGA" on one of your previous updates...It will call this a new system (because of different CPU)and want you to install a new OS...
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11. May 2007 @ 16:40 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Check AMD website for latest drivers, at least download the X2 optimizer
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Tech...71_9706,00.html
Thanks buddy! Bookmarked and ready for use. :)
...gm
@Lp531,
Read about the GMA and I should be ok. I have the "genuine" thing. :)
edit: the frikkin quote bug again.... :P
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11. May 2007 @ 16:57 |
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Well thats what I am worried about...even so there are ways around it...
Just PM me...if they tell you your hardware has changed...Well take care of that...
Did you get the 3800 like you were talking about?..I might pick one up to replace my single core 4000 San Diego...
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rick5446
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11. May 2007 @ 18:10 |
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Deadrum33..Will the AMD Dual-Core Optimizer help in Video conversions or is it just for gaming
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Red_Maw
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11. May 2007 @ 20:40 |
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What is the difference between these two cards?
Radeon? X1950 XTX 650MHz 2GHz 48 8 512MB GDDR4
Radeon? X1950 CrossFire Edition 650MHz 2GHz 48 8 512MB GDDR4
Supposedly they are both CrossFire capable yet the XTX is ~100 US more then the other one. Also, are those cards (seperately) better than the X850XT PE?
Thanks.
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12. May 2007 @ 04:32 |
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I didnt see a difference in conversion such as encoding or backing up films and what not, not even really gaming. But I couldnt figure out why all my bands concerts I transferred from my miniDV camcorder came out crappy sounding an not "synching up". Here I was with a brand new killer system (back when Opterons were king not C2D) and it did these tasks worse than my old one? I was confused at the time to say the least. Also my tv card didnt input the signal correctly. By the end of a 1/2hr program, audio and video were badly out of sync. Maybe a different fix I tried did the trick, I'm no expert, but these problems stopped once I loaded the driver.
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