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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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10. September 2010 @ 14:01 |
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Windows 7? Surely not. Which OS?
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10. September 2010 @ 15:02 |
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You say black screen 'but the player shows up' - Can you clarify please?
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rick5446
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10. September 2010 @ 15:41 |
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WinXP
The player opens, but where the movie is supposed to be playing it is just BLACK ON ONE OR THE OTHER. The movie shows in one but not the other
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10. September 2010 @ 15:50 |
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Windows 7 is better with graphics and what not. But XP probably isn't the sole culprit. Perhaps a driver issue, or hardware. Doubt it's hardware though. Sam would know ati better than I ;)
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10. September 2010 @ 15:57 |
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Here's an EconoQuad build for you. $417.48, delivered. I sell them for between $550 and $575! I've built 10 so far this year!
Very competent computer! Throw in another $50 and you can use a Phenom IIx4 955BE/C3, instead of the 630 Propus. The motherboard has lots of adjustments for overclocking. I have a Freezer 64 for Oxi, but at stock speed all you really need is the stock cooler.
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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10. September 2010 @ 16:00 |
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Not bad russ. I gather that case comes with a PSU ;)
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10. September 2010 @ 16:26 |
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i have a friend with this Pc a Compaq Presario SR5130NX and its running vista. the on board video card is broken and they need a new one. here's the catch there psu is only 250 watts so they will need a card that will support that psu. the system has a PCI Express x16 slot. they are not a pc gamer. the only they really use the computer for is browsing the web,checking emails and a little flash based gaming.
computer specs
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/docum...297&dlc=en#N820
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10. September 2010 @ 16:45 |
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The second screen is not getting driver acceleration. ATI cards are usually meant to sense this automatically. The monitors are set as one extended desktop right?
I can, for instance, drag a movie from one monitor to the other and after a momentary pause it carries on with the other screen.
Which player are you using? It's conceivable that the player doesn't support playback on secondary screens.
Russ: Not bad choices, the X4 630 goes in all my low-end specs these days, though usually I tend to specify DDR3 boards as DDR2 is typically just as expensive over here, and proper AM3 boards with DDR2 don't exist in proper ATX format, limiting for many users, even those with low budgets.
Caviar Blue hard drive is identical to the 250GB WD2500AAJS I used to use for my OS. They are slow as hell unfortunately, but very quiet and reliable.
CM Elite case isn't the nicest case in the world, but it suffices on a budget. No idea if the PSU is trustworthy though, I tend to use a mid-budget case and a Corsair 400W CX PSU. I don't do bottom-budget builds, for me it's easier for people to buy a Dell off the shelf. They'll get more than 250GB of disk space for that money.
Redice: If nothing but flash, buy a basic card like an HD4350. If you want more power, you can go up to an HD5670 on a 250W PSU. They're reasonably competent cards, comparing with the midrange 8800s of yesteryear.
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10. September 2010 @ 17:10 |
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10. September 2010 @ 17:19 |
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Media Player Classic certainly does, can't speak for VLC. No luck with either player?
What happens if you play on one screen then drag the window to the other?
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redice
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10. September 2010 @ 18:10 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Redice: If nothing but flash, buy a basic card like an HD4350. If you want more power, you can go up to an HD5670 on a 250W PSU. They're reasonably competent cards, comparing with the midrange 8800s of yesteryear.
ok thanks
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rick5446
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10. September 2010 @ 21:08 |
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Where do i find the option to dragg the video
Unless I open ATI, WHERE DO i FIND THE SECOND SCREEN ( tv )
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10. September 2010 @ 21:13 |
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That wasn't my point, just drag the window with the mouse cursor off the edge of the screen and see if it appears on the second screen. If the image on the second monitor is totally blank, it probably hasn't even been detected (or your PC may be sending it a resolution it can't accept)
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10. September 2010 @ 23:30 |
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Hey Russ, those spec's on that PC you recommended, it's almost identical as the PC I built a little over a year ago, I can't comment on the many as you guys build I am no where close to that, but I will say it's a great running PC, I can also say better than any of the shelf product $900 or under I don't care which brand.
I do have a different HDD, other than that almost the same, can't go wrong with that build especially at that price, my kids use almost 24hr. a day, it stays cool, quite and fast.
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11. September 2010 @ 01:34 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Not bad russ. I gather that case comes with a PSU ;)
Oman7,
It comes with a 420w, based on the newer designed Cooler Masters. Not the greatest PSU in the world, but decent enough, and they seem to be reliable, and they won't burn your house down!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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11. September 2010 @ 01:55 |
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(by sammorris)Russ: Not bad choices, the X4 630 goes in all my low-end specs these days, though usually I tend to specify DDR3 boards as DDR2 is typically just as expensive over here, and proper AM3 boards with DDR2 don't exist in proper ATX format, limiting for many users, even those with low budgets.
Caviar Blue hard drive is identical to the 250GB WD2500AAJS I used to use for my OS. They are slow as hell unfortunately, but very quiet and reliable.
CM Elite case isn't the nicest case in the world, but it suffices on a budget. No idea if the PSU is trustworthy though, I tend to use a mid-budget case and a Corsair 400W CX PSU. I don't do bottom-budget builds, for me it's easier for people to buy a Dell off the shelf. They'll get more than 250GB of disk space for that money.
Sam,
I use that motherboard for just about everything, because it has a very high Price/Performance ratio. I can upgrade an AM2 or AM2+, and then further down the road stick an AM3 Phenom II in it. I can also build an AM2+, again with the same upgrade path and options. A DDR3 board would limit me to AM3 only. I've only had one failure in 13 builds with that motherboard. It comes with HD4200 Graphics, which is a huge improvement over what most of the people I build for, had before. As you saw, comparing my 955BE on DDR2 and Will's 965BE on DDR3, both at 3.8GHz, the difference in memory performance is zilch! If someone did want to overclock one, all the bells and whistles are there to do it with. AM2, AM2+ CPUs are gradually being replaced with socket AM3 CPUs anyway, so the next one I build may well be on a DDR3 motherboard. I just hope that when the time comes, I can find as good a motherboard for DDR3 as what I use now!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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rick5446
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11. September 2010 @ 03:26 |
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sammorris : Drag it from where ? Got no idea what your trying to tell me.
If the Movie is playing on the TV IN THE VLC Player, but is a black screen on the Computer. What do I drag, and from where
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11. September 2010 @ 04:21 |
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Rick, he must mean drag the video window from the working monitor/tv to the secondary display. Whichever display is working, drag the window from it, to the other. If the other display is completely not working, well...than you've got something going on. E.g. Ati drivers haven't acknowledged the other screen. Or the settings for dual monitors aren't setup appropriately. On my windows 7 Rig, I've ran all sorts of odd display settings. Perhaps your monitor doesn't like the signal that's being sent? :S
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11. September 2010 @ 08:17 |
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Lol, not $900 :P
$880 buys you an X6 1055T with an HD5770 graphics card, as well as 1TB hard drive in a Studio XPS 7100.
A $300 homebuild ain't gonna compete with a $900 shelf PC, but it isn't meant to :P
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11. September 2010 @ 09:28 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Lol, not $900 :P
$880 buys you an X6 1055T with an HD5770 graphics card, as well as 1TB hard drive in a Studio XPS 7100.
A $300 homebuild ain't gonna compete with a $900 shelf PC, but it isn't meant to :P
I beg to differ, the best the one your talking about, what might make it do things a second or two faster, and I paid a little more than half that price, I don't think so, no comparison especially if your looking for a good quality great running middle of the road PC.
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11. September 2010 @ 10:04 |
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Fred, you've missed the point there.
I'm well aware for $900 it's much better value to build a system yourself, no argument from me.
The reason I posted that was I was responding to what you said:
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Hey Russ, those spec's on that PC you recommended, it's almost identical as the PC I built a little over a year ago, I can't comment on the many as you guys build I am no where close to that, but I will say it's a great running PC, I can also say better than any of the shelf product $900 or under I don't care which brand.
Implying that [b]the system Russ built[/b[ is better than a $900 Prebuilt PC.
I mentioned the Dell system to show that this clearly isn't the case.
Home built systems are typically better value than prebuilt PCs, but they aren't so good that a $400 newegg order will outcompete a $900 Dell system. It just doesn't happen.
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11. September 2010 @ 10:12 |
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I won't argue your point because you are right, mostly, I guess if you wanna get into heavy gaming sure it's a better PC, but for better value it's another issue like we both say, but even if you were to shell out another 100 bucks maybe I would ask which is really the better PC.
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11. September 2010 @ 10:14 |
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No Fred, you're still missing the point.
You said a $400 Home build PC is better than a $900 shelf PC. It isn't. There's no situation which it is. The Dell in this example is plain better.
I did not say better value. I just said better. $900 of Dell still buys more PC than $400 of components.
Shelf PCs are bad, but not as bad as you're making out.
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11. September 2010 @ 12:45 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
No Fred, you're still missing the point.
You said a $400 Home build PC is better than a $900 shelf PC. It isn't. There's no situation which it is. The Dell in this example is plain better.
I did not say better value. I just said better. $900 of Dell still buys more PC than $400 of components.
Shelf PCs are bad, but not as bad as you're making out.
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Sammy I understand what you are saying, I see many PC's on shelves at many of our outlets, I played with several, I don't know about the particular one you are talking about the places I have been to don't carry Dells anymore, but the one's I played with I would not trade any of them for the one I built, unless your a gamer which I am not other than them having W7 there is nothing more on them that wets my whistle, unless you start looking at those $1200 pc's and over.
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11. September 2010 @ 13:03 |
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The Dell website does have decent deals, but yeah I'd agree that prebuilt systems are generally pretty overpriced, this gets worse the more you pay though, so at the bottom end of the market they're actually quite competitive, at the top end they're pretty awful
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