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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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5. September 2010 @ 14:25 |
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Sam, this may have been overlooked, so I'll say it again. How long do you thing an industry -Rom disc will last? Well...the discs I use (Taiyo Yuden), are rumored to be used by the industry. And given I've had a 100% success rate with them, I don't think I have a problem here. My oldest discs are 5 yrs old, and Taiyo Yuden discs are of even higher quality. And verbatim boasts Lifetime warranties. They even have a medical grade disc.
Longevity is definitely all in how they're stored and burned though too. Burning beyond the discs threshold is not advised. Error/Failure rates are too high, resulting in very few devices that can read them. Add a scratch or two, and its screwed. I'm no expert when it comes to burning, but I have been doing it a while. :p
That said, I also see the value in a networked/shared hard drive array. Highly convenient. I just hope your Hard drives don't quit on you. That would be truly unfortunate. This coming from a guy that better luck with dvds/cds than hard drives.
I would never split HD films across dvds. I burn HD to Dual layer dvds. And ONLY ONLY ONLY good ones. E.g. Ironman, Lord of the Rings, Etc. Only movies worth my money and having backups of. Though lord of the rings would probably suffer a bit much even on Dual layer. I'll probably wait to back that one up to BD disc. Which I won't trust for a few more years yet.
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5. September 2010 @ 14:26 |
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Home recordable discs will never be the same as those used by the industry as they are not recorded by the same process.
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5. September 2010 @ 14:27 |
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Very curious. I found the page 518 cookie in my browser, and it directed me to page one the first time, then the second time I got here. It must be because sam posted. Very weird... Thought I'd throw that tip in there ;)
The home recording process will suffice :p
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5. September 2010 @ 14:31 |
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Well eventually I'm going to physically backup the drives. Should have been done long ago, but I didn't have the money to do it. Either way, having fully backed up drives costs less than discs and the cases, and you still need the PC anyway, since HD MKVs stored on DVDs aren't going to be readable by DVD players.
9GB being the limit for an HD film is a bit small for me. It works for 85 minute films, but even stuff that's 110-120 minutes really cannot be done at that bitrate in 1080p, it has to be 720p, and that's barely sufficient. 170 minute films really need to be at least 10GB even at 720p, so DVDs simply don't do the job. It's excessive, but The Godfather trilogy I got was 89GB for the three films, or 10 DVD+R DLs!
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5. September 2010 @ 14:45 |
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Yah, the dual layer dvds are still ridiculously expensive. I thought when BD media began eaking its way onto the scene, they would come down significantly. Apparently not. No matter. Dual layer media is less trustworthy than single layer discs. Though I've had 100% success with verbatim Dual layers. Adding another layer to a disc, is throwing another risk into the equation if you ask me. So I laugh about companies like Ritek producing 10 layer Blu Ray discs. That's just too risky...
If I had to, I would probably trust hard drives over Blu Ray media at present. Bd is still too new :S
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5. September 2010 @ 14:53 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
Many people can use a pc but won't understand your set up, because you have gotten so savvy and don't forget you were raised with pc's, many people have not, plus the fact your more savvy than most anyway when it comes to pc's, I still even know many youngsters are not even close to your knowledge and never will be, your method of explaining things is another language to most people, you seen to forget what is simple to you is not to them...
And about wireless routers, or networking especially, oh man, now thats really over peoples heads, you wanna talk about problematic I'm not even gonna go there, and today most people have 40 inch set or above, there not gonna watch movies on some 32 or lower inch set pc screen as a lot of you guys do, I would love to have the kind of set up like your talking about, it's still to far fitched for me some day maybe I will,
Fred you are making an easy task artificially difficult in your brain. I pull up my movie collection on a 56" TV using the HDMI input, connected by a 20 foot cable to a computer in a totally different room. Thats my example of watching these movies on something bigger than a computer monitor. Here is an easy way to share files between any Windows machines.
1. You really need no special settings on a router. Wireless or wired just make sure it works and allows all PC's to at least access the internet.
2.insure all PC's can access the home network (every computer in the house has their own unique name, all have same workgroup name). Google this step, as it is so slightly different between Windoze OS's. After this step you should be able to find your other machines when you open the network icon in windows explorer, but not access them yet
3. Select the file or folder you want to share. RIGHT CLICK then select properties from the list. Select sharing tab, then select share.
This should be enough to get two Windows machines with the same OS sharing with each other.
If they have 2 DIFFERENT OS
4.While you have the properties window open from step 3, select the security tab.
Choose EDIT group or user name permissions. Select ADD and type in the name "everyone" (no quotes). Ok that, and you should see the group "everyone" in the permissions list. Select APPLY
Your machines should talk to each other now regardless of OS. Hopefully I didn't miss a step as it's been awhile since I've needed to do this.
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5. September 2010 @ 15:01 |
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I've not had a verbatim dual layer disc fail, but I've messed up the burning procedure once or twice.
Lol, if you've never had any problems with dual layer discs, on what grounds do you call them less trustworthy?
Deadrum: I'm glad there is at least one other person here who understands what I'm talking about! lol
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5. September 2010 @ 15:14 |
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Because a second layer throws a risk into the equation. The chance to fail/stutter. I've had bad burns with another brand. While I haven't had a bad burn with verbatim, I feel the risk there. Perhaps i'm simply being silly. :S
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5. September 2010 @ 15:38 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Deadrum: I'm glad there is at least one other person here who understands what I'm talking about! lol
I totally understand personal preference, and taking a few extra steps/minutes to stay inside your comfort zone. But to hear "this is over my head" or "you damn kids and yer new-fangled computaton devices" when the answer can be readily found on Google and really is a 4 step process... My point is not to prove my way is better, just that if I can do a 4 step process anyone can.
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5. September 2010 @ 17:06 |
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(by omegaman7)And verbatim boasts Lifetime warranties.
Oman7,
The truth is, Verbatim's "Lifetime" warranty is more smoke and mirrors than a real warranty. Verbatim will only replace defective DVDs, one for one. They will not give you a replacement batch like TY will. You have to send every bad one into them. With Yudens, when I had that bad batch, they confirmed that they were genuine, and sent me (the very next day) about 60 new ones. I didn't have to ship anything!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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5. September 2010 @ 17:16 |
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Eh, I like them both almost equally. Verbatim is incredible. Provided you get the genuine MCC 003's/004's. A few of my oldest verbs have heavy scratches, and are still readable(Single layer). Since their climate is very controlled, it won't surprise me when they play 20yrs down the road. I'd bet my life on it :p I'm not saying Verbs are better. TY has been in the game a bit longer after all ;) But I trust them both equally :p
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5. September 2010 @ 17:53 |
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After careful consideration, I would approach the problem this way! I will stick with the 500GB drives, because none of the larger drives seem to have as much reliability as the 500s have. I would purchase a 5.25 bay Docking mount for 3.25" Sata drives.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...2%20sata%20dock
Gina gave me a program that I can use to store my movies on Sata drives. I would number the drives as I gradually fill one up and move on to another. The program holds a master list, so you go to the program and you can search by name, Actors and so on. When you find what you are looking for it tells you what number drive it's on. You plug that drive into the docking bay and you are ready to go. If I loan a DVD to someone and it get's damaged, or I accidentally drop and damage one, I'll simply put the drive with that particular movie on it into the docking bay, and burn me a new one.
In my opinion, it's a far more secure method than any other form of backup.
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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5. September 2010 @ 17:56 |
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500GB drives really aren't very cost effective. In the UK at least the WD5001AALS drives are £45.63 each. I can buy a WD20EARS for £84.40, so I can just buy duplicates of each 2TB drive to have full redundancy, and still end up paying less than when using the 500GB drives without redundancy (£84.40 per terabyte versus £91.26)
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5. September 2010 @ 18:14 |
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Yah, i'd rather go larger drives with redundancy as well. Wd honors their warranties. If it fails in 3 - 5 yrs, at least I have a backup drive, and they'll send me a new one :D
None of my 3 WD1001Fals are backed up :S and they all are at 66% capacity... The FALS drives seem pretty reliable to me russ.
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5. September 2010 @ 18:14 |
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Wow that was a rather long discussion on backups. Anyway I was doing some backups earlier today using the FASS drives for the first time and sam was right, they are incredibly loud. I could here it from six feet away over soft music ('phones) despite the noise from my main rig which is closer :\ However I do not regret buying them, still a great purchase.
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5. September 2010 @ 18:15 |
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Something I've learned : Listen to the person who is helping you, do exactly as they instruct step by step..Do not try and get ahead of that person, if you do then your both lost.. Take any thing you've learned by following instructions, at a later date you can play with it and possibly find or make improvements..
The simplest of programs can be difficult, if you don't follow instructions
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5. September 2010 @ 18:17 |
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My FALS drives aren't incredibly loud. The FUJITSU drive (Xbox 5400Rpm drive) I attempted to back up yesterday made some rather loud noises yesterday. And then there were well over 3,000 reallocated sectors. And it stopped be acknowledged by the PC. I gave up at that point ;) I hadn't heard a drive like that since the seagate drive...
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6. September 2010 @ 00:13 |
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Since I know nothing about surge protectors I thought I'd ask before buying. On Newegg this belkin BE112234-10 was the best I could find although I can't tell if it's what I'm looking for. What I want is one that operates like a breaker as a opposed to a using a fuse since I'm assuming they're better....but if I'm wrong please tell me lol.
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6. September 2010 @ 10:50 |
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Red_Maw,
Circuit breakers are generally too slow to react. Surge protectors use a special fast blowing fuse. If you use an ordinary glass Buss Fuse, it may well shatter the glass. A fuse is a much better design for surge protection than a circuit breaker.
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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6. September 2010 @ 15:06 |
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Aight Guys Review Time Corsair done came out with a new Mid Tower case.I don't know if ya'll heard or not due to Release:09/23/2010. I fill the Price is kinda High on what it has to offer at $159.99 Corsair only has 3 cases under there belt that they built and the ideals are coming from other competitors as they start out higher Priced,They should have started out lower priced with mid towers and worked there way up,It would have made easy for some people to buy it's like they thought of rich people first instead of the poor.The 3 case they have start at $159 to $219.I don't think they started out right in pricing and the your paying for the name Corsair atlease Cooler Master did'nt start that way.I wreather buy the HAF 922 for $89.99 who cares about adjusting power supply brackets and removable hard drive bays 3 at a time that's meanless...it has No side panel Cooling Or View or Removable motherboard tray and a top cheesy fan control knob,Bill said for 4 fans but where's the fourth Go? you got me
compare the 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...E11-139-003-S01
here's my friend Bill Owen and his video on that 600T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64JDcsyQq...player_embedded
Ps. just my opinion Fellows
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6. September 2010 @ 15:14 |
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The Corsair cases are very overpriced, but they are built to a far higher standard than coolermaster cases, Lian-Li style.
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6. September 2010 @ 15:33 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The Corsair cases are very overpriced, but they are built to a far higher standard than coolermaster cases, Lian-Li style.
it's not about the standards these days with the way the economy is here in the states and higher standard you say it's just based on a Name there name and other competitors ideals stoled copie cats and styles do changes and you have a cooler master case yourself...
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6. September 2010 @ 15:49 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Red_Maw,
Circuit breakers are generally too slow to react. Surge protectors use a special fast blowing fuse. If you use an ordinary glass Buss Fuse, it may well shatter the glass. A fuse is a much better design for surge protection than a circuit breaker.
Best Regards,
Russ
Thanks, didn't know that. Any idea on where I can find one of those surge protectors, I can't seem to find where they tell you how they operate?
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6. September 2010 @ 15:50 |
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You can't just say people don't buy expensive cases because of the economy, not true, or companies wouldn't still be producing them.
If you're giving coolermaster all the innovation credit for modern PC cases you must be having a laugh, half the time their designs are clones of others.
My point is, coolermaster cases are good value, and built to a mediocre standard. You can get more expensive cases that aren't as good value, but built a lot better.
I'm very happy with my HAF932, but I sometimes wish such a great design wasn't let down by relatively poor build quality.
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6. September 2010 @ 17:48 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
You can't just say people don't buy expensive cases because of the economy, not true, or companies wouldn't still be producing them.
If you're giving coolermaster all the innovation credit for modern PC cases you must be having a laugh, half the time their designs are clones of others.
My point is, coolermaster cases are good value, and built to a mediocre standard. You can get more expensive cases that aren't as good value, but built a lot better.
I'm very happy with my HAF932, but I sometimes wish such a great design wasn't let down by relatively poor build quality.
Not saying that they could have started out with lower prices on there product cases and more models to choose from they started out wrong you should start low then work your way up and they just started making cases anyway,I believe there one of the last case makers in the game also with Only 3 made to there name so would'en they be last to Clone designes in that market?
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You can get more expensive cases that aren't as good value, but built a lot better.
to answer that first one expensive cases that's by name what your paying for Name not Quality that's like buying a Lexus and your really getting a Toyota you'll pay more for the lexus parts than the Toyota parts just because it has the name Lexus stamped on the outside and Toyota on the inside even on the windows even Scion got Toyota written on them these days. I thinks. I can just buy a toyota and just put the lexus emblems on it instead and save alittle money and in the same way you can do a computer case...
anyway Sam it depends on the metal material they wanna used to build these cases. I just bought and sold a $20 gigabyte case not to long ago and it felt like it was made out of reynolds wrap material thin cheap and Gigabyte had there name all over it that' matters it's is what it's made of how it's made and what suits you and your taste,The point is Corsair started off wrong in my opinion in the production in there cases in the Price ranges and design and more to choose from they started out in a full tower first of all alot of people are not into full just mids so can we see the sales reviews between the both styles of case sizes.I don't thinks there's No way of finding out among the companies that build who's out selling who...and another thing not all Cooler Master cases relatively poor built quality even your 932 is made of Steel just like Corsair 600T is and even the Haf 922 little brother,O my bad my CM 690 II Basic is steel to with a painted black inside like the 600T your paying for all the extra stuff you really don't need in that 600T and that's fact and what's wrong with a Basic case anyway and good steel build one with good air flow. I only buy my cases for Good Air Flow anyway heat starts in one direction up unless you direct other wise with venting...
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