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29. January 2007 @ 02:17 |
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Intel are already working on 45nm, so AMD will still be more power hungry and run hotter! and still playing catch-up.
They should be on the market later this year, in various forms of CPU for desktop and laptop (dual and quad core).
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2087985,00.asp
There's also a fair bit on the Intel site about 45nm as well.
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caucano
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30. January 2007 @ 10:41 |
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Hi all,
I am in the process of buying a new system and I am new to the whole over clocking business. I don't want to go crazy, but do OC the intel E6300. I will only be using one PCIExpress video card and have need some PCI and IDE interfaces. Can any of you suggest a good Mobo for overclocking this CPU as well as having the above? It would be nice if the IEEE 1394 was also included.
I have done my own research, primarily from Tom's Hardware website. I read their intel core 2 duo Mobo Showdown and looked into getting the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, but on newegg, many mentioned that it was dead on arrival and had to return. I also looked at the Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi-AP Edition but I don't really care for the WiFi.
Any other suggestions or critics on the ones I'm considering would be greatly appreciated :)
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30. January 2007 @ 10:43 |
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I'm still all for the Gigabyte DS3. Most of the people on newegg seem to return items because they don't know what they're doing. Here, you have us to help.
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30. January 2007 @ 11:37 |
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DS3 is a very good board, just make sure you get the latest release not one of the earlier ones.
If your supplier can't guarantee it, then don't use them.
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30. January 2007 @ 12:07 |
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I'll put in a vote for the P5W DH Deluxe although there are a few better ones out now (possibly the eVGA 680i or the Abit 680i). You don't have to use the wi-fi (just don't install the drivers) but it's nice to use as an AP (access point) if you don't have a router and can also perform as a wireless card if you have a router. The mobo is a good OC'er as well.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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30. January 2007 @ 12:31 |
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Ive seen too many poor reviews on the 680 chipset to put my money there.
It seems a bit hit and miss, but that may well be down to the usual problems with the wrong people buying the kit and then not knowing what to do with it.
My P5WDH has been as stable as a rock for months, running at 400x9 3.60GHz 24/7 most of the time with the E6600.
I get no errors, and it plays any game without any issues normally associated with overclocked systems.
The memory timing issues I had previously, have now been sorted with the 1707 BIOS, whereas before I couldn't get the memory to run at 4-4-4-12 at DDR800 only 533, it now runs fine from both memset and the bios.
I've just ordered the E4300 to go in it with the DDR800 Corsair memory so I'll see how far that CPU goes up on this board.
I'ts only going to running on air with the E6600 cooler that came with my main chip, even so I'm expecting it to get to 400x8 without any issues, but will try and get it up with the either the extra multiplier or an increase of the FSB.
The Corsair 2x1024 6400-C4 runs quite happily at DDR900 5-5-5-12 on this board.
Have managed to get the REV 2.0 DQ6 board ordered, so the E6600 will go in that with a 2x1GB set of 8500 Dominator memory which I've finally got my hands on, so with the extra FSB of the DQ6 of 500+ and the better frequency of the memory I'll finally see what I can get as a stable overclock on my E6600.
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caucano
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30. January 2007 @ 14:12 |
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thanks guys!
regarding the Gigabyte DS3, how can I make sure it is the latest as compared to the old one? is there a firmware version I can inquire about? I am thinking of purchasing from Newegg, thanks.
Any thoughts on RAM? I am thinking of running the E6300 at around 2.5GHz...Have yet to work out the details on timing and such.
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30. January 2007 @ 14:42 |
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I've only had one gigabyte mobo. I didn't like it because it didn't support dual channel memory (which was my fault for buying it) but it also wasn't very OC friendly. I have since used nothing but asus and they have won me over. I'm sure the gigabyte mobos have come a long way just like most other mobo manufactures.
Put in a couple sticks (2x512 or 2x1024) of corsair DDR2 XMS2 PC2 6400C4 ram and they'll run great at 800+mhz at 4-4-4-12.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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caucano
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30. January 2007 @ 15:24 |
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Thanks Mort81....I know Asus has a good reputation as a Mobo manufacturer. any cons to getting the Asus? It seems the only one that cheers for the Gygabyte is sammorris.
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30. January 2007 @ 16:14 |
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The only slight con I can say about the P5W DH Deluxe is that it does run a little warmer than average but this has not caused me any problems. I know of several ppl that have OC'ed their E6600 to 3.4ghz stable on air with this mobo.
I'm not trying to sell you on this mobo. You need to shop around for a mobo with the features you need and one with a good reputation. I can only tell you what my experiences are with this particular mobo.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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30. January 2007 @ 16:42 |
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I might as well add my 2 cents and add the Asus P5N-E SLI motherboard to the mix. It's the least expensive 650i chipset MB available! At $134.99 it's a steal. it's also reported to be a good overclocker with both the Conroes and the Allendale!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131142
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30. January 2007 @ 23:23 |
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I've nearly always used Asus for my own builds, but have used Gigabyte, MSI, Asrock to name a few for other builds.
Lets not forget Asus and Gigabyte have joined companies now, so there won't be much in the way of difference in technologies from now on anyway.
Asus have made plenty of boards without dual channel support as well.
If you're buying a board it's not much use just picking a company and expecting all the baords to perform the same way, you get what you pay for.
The P5WDH is an exceptional baord for the 775 core 2 CPU, it's still among the best performing out there, but there still issues that need fixing in the BIOS, and with the Asus focus now geared towards the 965 and 600 chipsets, there is less chance that certain problems will ever get fixed (namely some memory issues).
The DQ6 along with other 965 chipset boards suffered from some poor feedback, but that was mainly due to problems in the BIOS for such a new chipset.
F9 BIOS has sorted nearly all issues that had been reported.
You need to look into the faults that some people report as well, as most of the time these are occurring when the users are pushing the systems way above the stated specs they were made for, and a lot of the time, it is poor RAM etc... that lets the system down, as people don't appreciated the difference in quality between some products.
Gigabyte boards have ben having problems with some geil and Gskill memory, but seem to run free of problems with the Corsair (which seems to work in everything)
Early rev of the DS3 have serious problems with upping the FSB over mid 300's, but it was also due to the early BIOS.
The second rev of board uses the C2 chipset instead of the C1 965, which has improved the FSB max speed as well.
How you tell about which rev of board you're getting is to ask if its not clear on the site.
Otherwise look closley at the specs on the site and look at the following:
Audio will be either Realtek ALC883 (rev 1.0) Realtek ALC888 (rev 2.0)
Lan Marvell 8053 (Rev 1.0) Marvell 8056 (rev 2.0)
If it says that its the components on the rev 2.0 and you end up being shipped the older rev by mistake, then you have 100% grounds for a free replacement for false advertising.
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31. January 2007 @ 02:02 |
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Sounds good!
I'm looking into the DS3 because here in the UK it's £70 cheaper. I can't justify £150 for a motherboard for an overclocking experiment. I intend to use Corsair XMS2 with the board so hopefully no compatibility issues. People rave about the P5WD-H, but I've seen plenty of high scores in the chart coming from the DS3, and for its significantly reduced cost, I think it's far more viable, unless of course you have a lot to spend. Fortunately BigDK here has... :-)
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caucano
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31. January 2007 @ 06:11 |
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great information thanks. I checked on newegg for the Gigabyte DS3 board I'm considering and noticed the following:
Audio Chipset Realtek ALC883
LAN Chipset Marvell 88E8053
There is nothing else regarding the revision number. So does this mean its 1st rev?
Regarding the ASUS, the only reason I would get it is because the DS3 has been reported as having some issues. I don't have the need for 2 16x PCIExpress ports, but if I can save a headache, I will just get the Asus.
Thanks.
EDIT: I did contact Newegg for clarification on the Revision.
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31. January 2007 @ 06:19 |
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I don't think you can go wrong with the DS3, it has some serious overclocking potential and is loaded with high end components.
The only reason I went for the DQ6 over one of the other Gigabyte boards was due to the 12 phase power supply, which I haven't seen on any other board.
I'm just trying to maximize the OC'ing ability of the CPU to see how far it will go, more out of curiosity than need, so it's something I could quite easily avoiding doing.
Otherwise the DS3 would have been a probable contender for my next purchase.
I haven't seen any real benefit in going down the Nforce chipset route as an upgrade, and as I've already got a 975 chipset I want to compare it to a 965.
Long term I'm now waiting for the 1333mhz X35 chipset to be produced by Intel.
This is still early days, but may be available later this year along with the 45nm CPUs, so for now my upgrade path seems to be heading along the Intel route.
Other than that, I'm still waiting to see the ATI R600 GPU along with the 8900 series from NVIDIA.
I do wish money was no object, as Corsair have now released some DDR10K Dominator memory, and Seagate have the 15.4K SATA 2 cheetahs out, but they are about £500 a pop for a 147GB HDD (silly money).
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31. January 2007 @ 06:22 |
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The motherboard Rev does seem to be a Rev 1, however it may just be that the site hasn't bothered updating the web page since it was first listed, sometimes they never do.
You'll need to check directly with them.
My advise would be to do it via email, so you have a record if you still end up with the Rev 1 after being told it's Rev2
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31. January 2007 @ 07:45 |
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Yeah, for me it won't be an absolute max experiment, just an attempt to get a decent OC for once!
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31. January 2007 @ 08:47 |
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has anyone seen what kind of results a nf65i can get out of a e4xxx?
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31. January 2007 @ 13:33 |
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ok ive started my new comp wiv the stock heatsink in fine no errors at all but the cpu idle temp was was around 67 and even reached the 80's....so i removed the fan and replaced it with the Scythe Infinity. When i boot up i get beeps and an error message stating that there is a "cpu fan error" when i go into the bios and chek the cpu temp it is 20 whats that about ...i cheked the fan RPM warning and it is set to N/A so im very confused now any help would be geat.
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31. January 2007 @ 13:51 |
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is the fan plugged into the motherboard header or something else?
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31. January 2007 @ 14:06 |
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i got it working now it was a stupid mistake i read the book stating to insert the chassis fan into the pwr1 if installin a dual core but i placed the cpu fan in there...fanx n e way mayb u could help me wiv anova problem im havin...the ide hdd are connected fine but the motherboard detects them and even lets me select them in boot sequence but when i look into the main screen it will say primary ide master DVD RW (witch is how it is connectd and then nothing else the hdd are "not Detected" is this something that will change if i format them?
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31. January 2007 @ 14:09 |
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also my Motherboards idle temp is 45c is that ok for an asus p5w dh deluxe
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31. January 2007 @ 14:17 |
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With regard to the temp, assuming it doesnt change much at load, it's alright, otherwise it's maybe a bit high, remember you need good case airflow with that MB, not just one case fan. On the IDE issue, you will need them detected in the BIOS to use them. Jumpers right?
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31. January 2007 @ 14:21 |
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but they are detected i can even select which boot sequence to put thenm in it is just not coming up in the main screen. and my case has the side panel off at the moment it has a rear fan and a psu fan and 2 fans at the front they are only 80mm but like i said the side is open. is there a way i can install more fans ?
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31. January 2007 @ 14:34 |
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45C is about right for that mobo. It will probably run a little cooler with the side panel on and after the thermal pads on the heatsinks have set in. My P5W DH Deluxe runs about 43 - 44C idle but that's with my E6600 OC'ed to 3.2ghz.
Is your hdd SATA or IDE?
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