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1. February 2007 @ 15:19 |
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For the side, always in, especially since that's the way the fan on your CPU will work.
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ademgs
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1. February 2007 @ 16:01 |
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ok after replacing the PSU and the 80mm fan the case came with the fan is running at 1170RPM so thats sorted ive had the comp on for about 20 minz and the mobo seems like its staying at 39-40c but i havnt tried heavy load appz yet.
im also thinking of replacing the two fans on the front the one located on the bottom near the hdd'd is blowing air out and the one on top is blowing air in should i change that. and is it possible to add a biger fan even though it is for an 80mm.
the PSU is still quite high at 59c but its better then 66c which it was before so hopefully with a beter PSU the system temp will drop. what temps are all of your PSU's at
thanks for all the help so far
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1. February 2007 @ 16:26 |
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I didn't know you could monitor the temperature of your PSU...
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ademgs
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1. February 2007 @ 17:35 |
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in speed fan it is under "AUX Temp" and in pc wizard 2007 it is under "Power/Aux Temp" so im assuming that is power and the values changed when i changed my power supply try it and let me know what the values are on yours
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ademgs
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1. February 2007 @ 18:18 |
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Can anyone tell me the best atx PSU to get for cooling. my current one is only 350w so it dosnt need to be high just as long as its cooled well?
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1. February 2007 @ 18:31 |
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ademgs,
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.i think im going to mod the side panel cut a hole in it where the heatsink comes to and place a fan on the outside (should i have air blowing in to the case or out)
You have to be a bit careful when doing this. I had an 80mm blowing in where the air duct on the case was. Temps ran a couple of degrees higher because the fan airflow was interfering with the airflow of the fan on the CPU cooler. This happened with both the Zalman and the Arctic on 2 different set-ups, both in Cooler Master Cavalier cases.
Happy Computering,
theone
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ademgs
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1. February 2007 @ 18:46 |
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theone
the scythe infinity has the fan blowing air into the heatsink i dont think i should get the sam problem you did seen as the fan i will place will be blowing cool air on top of the heatsink and possibly helping the fans on the heatsink pass cool ait through it? am i wrong in saying this?
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1. February 2007 @ 19:39 |
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the two fans on the front the one located on the bottom near the hdd'd is blowing air out and the one on top is blowing air in should i change that.
I would have them both blowing in. You have a 120mm on the rear blowing out right?
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cpu-q fan and AI quiet are both disabled but still only at 840RPM what should i do "MORT"....
I'm done trying to help. Try to help and no appreciation whatsoever. I have the same mobo and my cpu hsf is running at 2650 rpm with the bios settings exactly the way I suggested you set yours. Sorry my suggestions didn't resolve your problem. I won't make anymore.
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1. February 2007 @ 20:00 |
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ademgs,
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the scythe infinity has the fan blowing air into the heatsink i dont think i should get the sam problem you did seen as the fan i will place will be blowing cool air on top of the heatsink and possibly helping the fans on the heatsink pass cool ait through it? am i wrong in saying this?
Both the Zalman 9500LED and the Arctic Freezer 7 fans blow air into the cooler from front to the back. What I would do if I was you is make the hole more towards the front of the case so that the airflow blows in front of the CPU fan. I think that was the problem in replacing my side air duct with the 80mm. The air duct sits right on top of the CPU cooler. The air from the 80mm was crossing the air from the cooler fan at a 90 degree angle. If I unplugged the fan, the temps dropped. On the other hand, if you make the hole right over the cooler and just put a grille over the hole, it should act the same as it does on mine without having to use any fan!
I know a fair amount about airflow characteristics as I'm part of a team that designs Hi-Speed Miniature Air Turbines for Dental Handpieces. I finalize what the engineers give me to work with. I run computer simulations on the changes I make with Auto-Cad 2004 with custom software made for us by AutoCad. My personal best was my last design which I finished in November. 580,000 RPM (not kidding!) for 24 hours without failure of the impeller or bearings. Here's an idea of the stuff I help design:
The turbine is actually a bit smaller than the drawing, if you can believe that! This is just a simple 420,000 RPM turbine. Lots of little bitty pieces as you can see by the drawing!
I did a little simulation on the computer fans and discovered that the air from the side fan blows across the airflow from the cooler fan causing dead air space at the top of the cooler. It tries to change the direction of the airflow from the cooler fan. If you move it more towards the front of the case, then the airflow will help feed the CPU cooler and not interfere with the airflow at all.
Happy Computering,
theone
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ademgs
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2. February 2007 @ 08:44 |
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how long should i leave the system before i start overclocking it is only 3 days old now the temps are stable at 39c for the mobo and 26c for the cpu when they are idle and under heavy load.
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2. February 2007 @ 09:36 |
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You may start to OC whenever you like, but if you're using thermal paste as opposed to a pre-applied pad, leave it a week to let it fully run in before doing anything like that.
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2. February 2007 @ 10:01 |
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My DQ6 is up and running at last, it took a while to move everything because of the water-cooling.
Its now running with a 400FSB x 8 whilst I finish the install.
Will see how far I can get the FSB over the next few days, I'm hoping for 500 with a 1:1 multiplier on the Dominator memory when it arrives.
As for the multiplier I end up with it depends on the CPU and how it performs.
I know I'll get away with 7x, hope for 8x though.
Had it running at 400x9 earlier which was running fine, but want to take it easy when doing other things.
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2. February 2007 @ 10:05 |
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BigDK,
Did you put your E6600 in that mobo?
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2. February 2007 @ 11:18 |
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Yes I've moved the E6600 into the DQ6 and I've bought an E4300 to put in the P5WDH, but it hasn't turned up yet.
I had ordered Vista, but it was holding the order up, so thats now binned for the time being, and at least the main bits are on the way.
I'm sticking the E6600 for now as apart from the quad core, I can't see too much gain out of another CPU, and even the quad cores aren't going to do much for me at the moment, as I've nothing running that will really benefit from it (plus they're too expensive).
I'm building a second rig around the P5WDH for inside the house as mine is located in my office outside, it'll have the E4300, 2x1GB Corsair DDR800 4-4-4-12, Asus 6800GT Extreme GPU.
Haven't sorted a HDD for it yet.
I got the case which a a Thermaltake Xaser 3 with Hardcano, and GPU for £125, with some extra fans and cables chucked in as well.
I've got 2x P4 desktops which are going in the local paper next week, they will pay for most of the parts I've had to buy.
Looks like I'll be busy seeing how far I can get both setups to go to.
Have to admit that the DQ6 BIOS is strange compared to the P5WDH, it's been a pain in the a*se getting it set up, earlier one of the drives was removed from the raid setup when I had to do a reset after a failed tweak.
It couldn't be added back so the whole install was trashed, and I had to start all over (nice!)
I've now got 4 x Raptors in the ICH8R ports 0-3 running RAID0, I'm pretty sure that this may cause problems with attemping serious OC.
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caucano
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2. February 2007 @ 15:18 |
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since the bus speed is lower on the E4300 as compared to the E6300, does it mean it will be easier to OC? or does it mean it will be cheaper since I won't have to get super fast RAM?
edit: If i understand correctly, the clock rate for the e4300 would be 200MHz. I assume that the 9x multiplier cannot be changed on most motherboards so to OC I'd have to increase clock rate. Lets say I increased it to 266MHz, this means I could use DDR2-533 RAM and result in a CPU freq of 2.4G? if this is the case there would be no use in getting DDR2-800 since this would mean that a bus speed of 400MHz would be unreachable with the e4300 since the CPU freq would reach 3.6GHz.
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2. February 2007 @ 16:24 |
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They start with a lower FSB, which you can up to be as high as it would be for an OC'ed 6300, so overall they seem better overclockers.
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2. February 2007 @ 18:59 |
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caucano,
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if this is the case there would be no use in getting DDR2-800 since this would mean that a bus speed of 400MHz would be unreachable with the e4300 since the CPU freq would reach 3.6GHz.
I don't know! Anandtech ran thiers at 3.37 with a stock Intel cooler. I would think that the 4300 would be a little easier to OC because of the lower starting frequency of the FSB! The 6300 would have to have a FSB of over 2100MHz while the 4300 would only require about 1600MHz for the same chip speed.
Happy Computering,
theone
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3. February 2007 @ 06:29 |
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i found this on another forum, its running in a p5b deluxe on air but it was unstable (4ghz+ with water?).
according to this guy win xp will not post with the fsb above 428.
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3. February 2007 @ 06:35 |
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Hmmm, maybe Vista's hardware stability tests are more relaxed than XP, that surprises me really, I'd thought they'd be more stringent. Either way though, if it doesn't boot XP at that rate, then it's effectively a bench race, I don't see a prime95 or OCCT window in that screenshot...
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3. February 2007 @ 06:59 |
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It looks promising, but I'd agree that there doesn't appear to be much info displayed.
Booting is one thing, but stressing the system is another, I'd like to see some tests performed.
I also prefer to see a validation on CPUz screenshots as well, so I know it?s genuine not just doctored.
Like this:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=164016
I'm now running with the same speed as on the P5WDH with the added bonus of the extra HDD in the RAID.
As can seen the speed I get on HD Tach is now quite high, so I'm now more than happy with that side of things.
I'm about to start cranking the FSB up, but until I get the 8500 memory I'm going to be limited by the DDR800, I know it works okay up to DDR900, but haven't tried it past that point yet.
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3. February 2007 @ 12:18 |
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Now running at 450 FSB x8 3.6GHz 1.51V from BIOS
DDR900 runing stable at 2.2V 5-7-7-18, will try and bring the timings down.
Have taken it up to 474FSB via EasyTune 5, but then had system crash.
Could take the voltage up on the memory, which I'll try tomorrow.
No doubt though that the DQ6 out performs my P5WDH on FSB capabilities.
Will post some scores and screens soon.
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3. February 2007 @ 22:24 |
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i know there is little info in that screen, but i also said he reported it as unstable. this isnt my point tho, even if you drop the speed by 300mhz (im sure this would fix all the stabiliy issues) it would still be overclocked by 100%
not the same guy/cpu/mobo but its same kinda cpu (fyi weeks 34 and 41 aparantly sucked for ocing with these cpu's no reports on other bad batches that i have found)
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=164095
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whats that + 119% thats real impresive ocing however you look at it (makes my +26% look quite infantile) and puts these new cpus at the top of ocing tree from what i can find.
still no proof on stability i know, but i point you again to my second sentance.
bigdk is this in xp? ifso i dont know why this guy said he could not boot winxp above 428, anyone any ideas on that?
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i got 1 of the weeks wrong, my bad.
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4. February 2007 @ 00:50 |
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It must just be a limitation on his board with the setup as it is.
Did he say what memory he was using?
My board will boot and run with a FSB of 500+, but there aren't too many boards that can do that with any stability.
Again to do that I need the 8500 Dominator memory.
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4. February 2007 @ 04:09 |
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And there was me thinking that sort of memory didn't have any realistic uses!
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4. February 2007 @ 05:25 |
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I think as time goes by we'll all be wondering how we ever used anything less.
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