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8. February 2007 @ 07:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
caucano,
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what do you mean by "hard drive racks mounted sideways"? is this the traditional case configuration?

Some cases do it this way to increase space for some longer video cards that wouldn't fit otherwise. It just gives another 1 3/4" of space between the card and the drive. When mounted sideways it allows removal of the drive without having to remove the video card The traditional way they are mounted is lengthwise, front to rear! I personally don't see any difference in cooling them this way as the surface area remains the same no matter which way you turn it! I never mount 2 hard drives directly next to one another in the next available bay. I usually leave one empty drive bay between each hard drive to allow better air flow between them!

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8. February 2007 @ 08:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
this case has them mounted the normal way


this is has them mounted sideways



now although it has holes to allow air through it will be less than if only the hard drive is there like in the first pic.
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thanks for the clarifications! I will look at the PSUs suggested, good thing I asked about the Antecs, I always had an impression they were top of the line when it came to PSUs. I think 450-500W should be sufficient for:

Gigabyte DS3
Intel 4300 (hopefully OCed to 2.5-3GHz)
DDR2-800C4 Corsair 1x2G
Nvidia 7600GT (manufacturer yet to be determined)
1 IDE drive
1 SATA drive
1 DVDRW drive
Creative Soundcard (not sure which one as of yet)

Thanks a bunch.

edit: you guys think the WD raptor drives are worth the investment? at least for the OS drive.

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I use 4 raptors in raid 0.
My advise would be no, they are not worth the investment.
You'd be better off buying some good 16mb cache drives and setting up a raid instead.


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8. February 2007 @ 12:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
caucano,

Why the IDE hdd? Do you already have it?

If you get a good mobo (like asus), you probably don't need a sound card as they usually already have good 5.1 or 6.1 onboard audio.

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cool thanks. One final question regarding the Motherboard (I will order most parts tonight since the ram is on sale @ newegg). Ok, I am again debating between Gigabyte's DS3 (here) and Asus' P5B Deluxe (here). I would definetly use the firewire ports and this is the only reason I am leaning towards the Asus since the DS3 is apparently a better overclocker. What do you guys think? I guess I can always buy a firewire pci card separately...but would this result in a slower or worse quality connection in any way?

thanks a bunch.

edit: @mort81 the old hard drive is from my old P3 system, I would most likely be transfering the data to a SATA drive and using it as temp storage, its still a good drive. Also, the Asus board I'm considering above, does have on board audio...maybe its worth the investment. I just want to be able to OC the 4300 a bit and don't want the FSB to limit me.

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I can't speak for the gigabyte board but I have the P5W DH Deluxe and it is an excellent OC'ing mobo. I've got the cpu frequency/fsb set at 355 (266 is stock) easy on air. I'll probably take it up to 3.4ghz later but it's blazing fast now at 3.2ghz. The onboard audio is very good to. I could see no reason for a sound card.

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What I'm going to do regarding an OS drive is use a WD Caviar SE16 500GB. Huge capacity and high speed, not to mention very quiet and far better value for money. I'll probably partition it off so I don't have to worry about reformats.



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8. February 2007 @ 13:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I personally don't like the big drives even partitioned off for my OS. I'd rather have a good 16mb (I like WD's) smaller hdd like 160gb or so for my OS and software and another larger hdd for data.

Regarding cases, my old pc had an antec case but since getting this cooler master case, I'm sold on them.

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It's not the ideal scenario for me, but the big SE16 caviars are about the best hard disks I've seen. I'm after a quiet PC now, and my 36GB raptor definitely does not help with that!



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I don't know if it's because it's a maxtor or because it's a big hdd (at least used to be) but my maxtor 300gb hdd is noisy. I can't even hear my WD 160gb hdd.

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A little bit of both there I think, but i haven't heard any quiet Maxtor drives.



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good stuff! Has any one heard anything specific to Asus' P5B Deluxe in terms of max FBS? Tom's hardware benched the P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP at 461MHz FBS, I don't know if the P5B Deluxe is the same as the WiFi internally....will check the Asus website.
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461mhz, that's some major OC'ing.

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sammorris,
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A little bit of both there I think, but i haven't heard any quiet Maxtor drives.

I've been using Maxtor Diamond Plus IDE drives for a couple of years (80GB, 120GB & 160GB) and you have to listen hard to hear anything at all. The new Seagate Barracuda 160 S-ata drive is about as quiet as drives get! Even if you listen hard with the side cover off, you can't hear anything!

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Not even the idle noise? To you my raptor must seem deafening!



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9. February 2007 @ 05:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am trying to boost my RAM since my computer seems to be slowing down. I have 512 RAM, though it does not seem to be at optimal since playing PS 1 type games are running slowly on my computer. I have a Inspiron 9100 Notebook, so how do I OC it. Thanks.
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Laptops are often locked down so you'll have to see what's in your BIOS. Don't forget you can't change their cooling either, so I don't know what degree of success you'll have. PS games always emulated slowly for me, that requires a pretty large amount of processing power.



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For future reference then, will I be able to upgrade my grafics card without buying a whole new computer?
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gfunk01,
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For future reference then, will I be able to upgrade my grafics card without buying a whole new computer?

I recently took an Inspiron 9100 apart (broken screen) and the computer is expandable to a Radeon Mobility 9800 and 1 GB of RAM. Check with Dell and they can tell by your serial #

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A quick update on the E4300 CPU overclocking.
Just started tinkering about again, as I've been away working.
Have now managed to get a stable boot into windows and can run all benchmark tests at 400fsb with the x9 multiplier.
Currently running a burn in program, but will do some screen shots of the setup and test results a bit later.
So I now have a £105 1.8GHz CPU running at 3.6GHz (100% overclock) not bad really.

Even with the E6600 air cooler it is still only running at 39`c.
Superpi time for 1M was about 14.5 secs, but I will confirm exact time with screen shot, as I'm currently on the other PC.

At least this confirms the capability of these chips, but again this is going to be dependant on the motherboard and the settings that are used.


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11. February 2007 @ 08:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Heres a screenshot of the E4300 overclocked on the P5WDH as promised.

Also had it up to 411FSB 3.7 GHz, booted into windows okay, but crashed after a couple of minutes, probably needed more voltage, will try and stabilize it later when I get a chance.





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11. February 2007 @ 08:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow awesome! Thats an amazing overclock!

Out of intrest you got any superPI scores to 1M. Im thinking of getting a rig like yours and would like to compare results to see if its worth it :)

Thanks lecsiy
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11. February 2007 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think we can safely say it's going to flatten mine! As I've mentioned though, I'm going to buy a Core 2 Duo overclock experiment PC. At this point in time I'm not sure whether to run that as a second PC with 1GB of RAM, or whether to pony up for the 2GB and make it my main PC in stead.
This said, I'm looking at getting the Gigabyte DS3 board (the P5WDH and DQ6 are a bit expensive and don't seem to yield that much difference), and either the E4300 or E6400. Cost differences aside, which would be the better investment of those two CPUs? (as in end result).



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Heres the latest super-pi from my DQ6.
Haven't got it as low as the P5WDH as yet.
The 975 chipset gives better times than the 965.
Will post the P5WDH shot with the E4300 when I next get a chance to run it, its powered down and I'm going to bed early.
I'm not as impressed by the DQ6 as I thought I would be, I'd still recommend the P5WDH over it.
If the Commando had an IDE port on it, then I would have chosen that, but Asus seem to be steering away from IDE, which is a shame, as I'm not about to throw away my Plextor PX-716A drive yet.





 
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