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7. August 2004 @ 08:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanx Preator and jvwheel. My pc is up and running but I think the cpu is running hotter than it should be. The ASUS motherboard software says its running at 55C and the BIOS setting says its running at 65C. I only have the Intel provided heatsink and fan. So I might have to get another. I have a P4 3GHz Prescott. ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe mobo.

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7. August 2004 @ 11:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have the same MoBo with the 2.8 Mhz Prescott and idle at 38C but it goes to 48C-49C when running benchmarks and other stressful programs. I used the arctic silver 5 with a Zalman CNPS7000A-CU HSF but it is heavy and is only practical for folks that keep their computer stationary - the benefit is this fan is whisper quite. I know of people that get cooler temps but the fans are loud - it just depends on ones preference. I don't have any experience with the oem HSFs.

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11. August 2004 @ 03:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah i think the stock HSFs are designed to give a decent amount of cooling (and to give as much of a hassle) as possible as to discourage people from mass OCing (and thus have to get a new fan)

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Ok, I have been looking into O/Cing but figured out that I have a cooling issue to deal with first. Here are my PC specs.

AMD AthlonXP 1800+ Palomino ( not O/C'd)
Gigabyte GA-7VAX mobo
MSI GeForce4 4200 128mb 8xAGP

I installed MBM 5 and I was seeing case temps in the 50C range and processor temps up to 68C ( not overclocked mind you). I had the oem fan on the processor and one exhaust in the rear of case. I added another fan in the back and an inlet fan in the front, and installed a Volcano 11+ HSF, with Arctic silver 5 compound. I figured I had the heat beat. Not really. Now I wonder if my readings are right. I dropped the CPU significantly. Now even on benchmarks, it seems to cap at 49C. During benchmarks I get case readings around 44C. Idle it doesnt drop much though. Running on the web browser to look through these forums, I am showing CPU at 42-44 and case at 41-42. If I take the side panel off the processor drops to 39-40, and get this has shown 3 deg lower than the case at times. Is this possible? I just feel these temps are very high at idle, or close to it. Any advice appreciated.
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12. October 2004 @ 14:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My Case has 3 Fan slots i believe havent looked at it that througholy got it free from a sisters friend will i be able to use 3 of these http://www.3dcool.com/?module=product&sku=ALUMINUMFAN

and a decent Not cheap PSU Cooling itself and helping with airflow.

Forgot about the Heat sink lol. http://www.swiftnets.com/products/mcx64-V.asp mabye this but probably something cheaper if i dont need the overkill.

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I just built a pc with a Powmax case w/ 400watt psu and extra 80x80 case fan,Biostar M7vig pro motherboard, AMD XP 2200+ cpu with the heatsink fan that came w/ the cpu running about 4900rpm. When my pc is idle my cpu temp is about 57C-60C w/ the side panal of the case off, and with it on its 66C idle. I want to cool it down w/o spending a fortune like under $50. Would I be able to just buy some good thermal paste since I didn't use any,or do I need a new heatsink, and if I do what should I look for in specs and features and material of one? I was looking at this one is it any good? http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-106-601&depa=0

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16. October 2004 @ 20:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cpu temperatures aren't always reliable depending on the manufacturer of the motherboard. i have a friend who i changed his motherboard to another manufacturer with the same cpu & there was over 10 degrees difference. same thing when i changed my msi board to a pcpartner board with the same duron 1gig, there was over 20 degrees difference, the pcpartner being cooler. right now i have 9 fans in my desktop case
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23. October 2004 @ 14:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey all - been reading the boards for a while but never really posted anything. Quick question regading cooling and noise levels. Right now i've got 5 fans in my case, 2 intake front, 2 exhaust back, one exhaust side. My question is on the "noise dampening" kits they have to place next to your fans. Do these actually work, or is it a waste of money? My noise level isn't *horrible* right now, and my cooling is decent (39C idling Athlon XP 2000+). Thanks guys!
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23. November 2004 @ 18:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If your running a Intel Prescott you might want to check this heat sink out http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-112-010&depa=0
As for the fan you can choose from mild to wild.Installation will require removal of the motherboard!


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27. November 2004 @ 18:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you are into overclocking or having heat problems with an Intel presscott check this link out http://cache-www.intel.com/cd/00/00/06/20/62086_62086.pdf
It is an Adobe file so it takes a while to load.I plan on modding my case with this design with these parts
Case http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-170-012&depa=0
Heat Sink http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-112-010&depa=0
PCI Slot Fan http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-888-112&depa=0
Case Fans~Heatsink Fan
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-612&depa=0
Have not decided on the fan controller but I am sure I will need one!!!



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27. November 2004 @ 19:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you haven't bought a Prescott then you might want to look at the slightly cooler running Northwood core with shorter pipes. The Nortwood and the Prescott have the same physical overclocking limits but the Northwood edges out the Prescott in cooling and in one on one performance. It's the reason that the P4 extreme edition uses the Northwood core instead of the presctt.

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13. January 2005 @ 14:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey,
I recently purchased some parts for the computer i built.
I'm running a Pentium 4 3.2Ghz(Prescott)on a P4P800-E Deluxe mobo. I built the comp on a coolermaster centurion 5 and i noticed the temp was at its high 50'sC idle, about 56*C idle and would jump to 63*C when burning with Nero. I purchased a Zalman CNPS7000A HS. I put it on with some artic 5 and the temperature didn't drop. I have 2 case fans, 1 in the front as intake,and 1 in the back as outake. I really don't want the mobo to fry on me so i don't usually run big operations, am wondering if someone could tell me if something is wrong with the cpu or the cooling and what i can do to improve my heat issues.

Thanks in advance

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15. January 2005 @ 22:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Any1?...

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16. January 2005 @ 12:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As i stated earlier, the Presott runs hotter than it's cooler cousin, the Northwood. That being said it's still a darned good overclocker. If you're running a little too hot then check to make sure that the heatsink is properly seated on your CPU good heatsink to CPU contact is a must. And to improve that contact invest in some thermal paste (compound) before reseating your heatsink, I recommend using arctic silver.

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i took off the heatsink to make sure it was seated rite..it was..but the thing is, that when i removed the heatsink, the cpu was attached to the heatsink kinda glued to it with the artic silver 5. Did this happen because i applied too much? Well i cleaned the chip and heatsink and added a lesser amount of artic silver to it and placed the cpu on mobo and the hs correctly on the cpu. no temp changes...

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3. February 2005 @ 16:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am not really sure if this is the right place for this post but the basic reason for posting is cooling related. This post is somewhat long.

My brother just got a system on very friendly terms, free actually. I get the 'pleasure' of maintaining it.

The components are:
a1ble mid tower - ugly but it works
hec 250 watt PS = *shudder*
aopen MK77-8XN micro ATX MB
AMD 2500+ CPU - woohoo!
40 GB drive, floppy, CD-R
256 MB PC2700 RAM (KVR?)
32 MB video card

When it works, life is good. System does all that the users require. Unfortunately, it shuts down after a while. I installed MBM. This shows that the CPU temp starts at about 40C and steadily increases until 70C and shuts off.

It sounds like a problem with the HSF. The current one was made by aopen. It is about an inch of aluminum with a no-name 60mm fan (label fell off?). There is a free 80mm fan space on back of the case.

I checked dansdata.com(see index) and overclockers.com for input. Great sites, way too much information. Some of the offerings were scary, like the one by Thermalright that requires you to dismount the MB to install! Decided that some expert advice was in order. Thank you in advance.

My questions:

1) Any recommendations for a new HSF? Moderate noise is fine. Nobody sleeps in same room. $50 is budget target. System will be in upper story (warm). MB has two clips (L/R). MB is cramped for space so 60mm base is about the most that will work. With any luck I will be seeing less of this system (limited travel).

1A) Any recommendations for an 80mm exaust fan?

1B) Does anyone use filters for fans anymore? Lots of dust bunnies in the environment.

2) Any recommendations for a new PS? I'm thinking that 400 watts or so should be fine. $75 budget target.

2A) A lot of power supplies have a fan in 'back' and another on 'top' or 'bottom'. Does the orientation of PS matter? No fan hole on top of case. His kids probably use the case as a cup/soda holder.

2B) Any thoughts of the goodness/badness of the Antec SmartPower line vs the TruePower line?

3) Is there any problem with putting different vendor RAM in if the clock speed (PC2700, cl2.5) is the same?

4) *looking around to make sure no one is looking* A lot of the HSF units discussed on the web sites above need 4 prong power. Same as a disk or CD. Is there a name for the adapter that these require to take care of the male to male problem? Same for the add on fan.

Jack

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16. February 2005 @ 04:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi there I'm posting here since this is the official PC Cooling thread my pc specs are down on my siggy. I just wanna ask what is the official average temp of the prescott cpu. My cpu got replaced recently - warranty because I think it fried I'm not sure the details they gave me were faulty - powers no display and it wouldn't stay booted for more than a couple of mins and would restart itself or shutdown. - I got a replacement cpu same type but I've got some temp monitor software to watch it - it started off at 17C no it's gradually stepped up to 30C over a week. I've got the stock cooler and I want to know is there anything I can do to keep it operating at a normal temperature of let's say 25/30. Without it rising to 70+ unless I'm playing games or using up all resources. I'm using a 650W PSU any help and advice is greatly appreciated thanks.

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RyanB

The max temp range for the Prescott is quite high, around 90 degrees celcius. It should idle around 40 to 45 degrees celcius and under full sustained load shouldn't go much higher than 65 degrees celcius. The problem is the accurate measure of Temp. Apps such as Asus prob aren't exact in their measures. The core temp of your CPU is likely to be higher than the app might report. If you're in a warm room with a heater blowing nearby, that could cause your chip to overheat. If you're using the stock heat/sink fan and you're into a lot of video compression then you should strongly consider the purchase of a good aftermarket heat/sink and fan.

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24. March 2005 @ 07:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi i think i have benn having a few problems cooling my system i have got 1 fan sucking in at front 1 sucking out at back and a akasa fan and heat sink on chip, it says the chip is 63oc and the motherboard is 127oc the power temp is 44oc and the hard drive is between 13 and 18oc is this right or have i sey some thing up wrong thanks danny

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try this to see if shows same info, download & run speedfan 4.22 http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php
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ok i might sound stupid but on graphics cards there is a cooling slot and it looks white where would I find a cooler to connect to it
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can put a system blower beside the videocard to suck the hot air aoround the videocard heatsink if it doesn't have a fan on it
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8. May 2005 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
but what does that other white connector do it looks like you plug something into it example:

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on the picture, is it the 1 by the slot connector that has the red & black wires coming from it, if so than should be connecting to the fan on the card.
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no i mean on the metal panel sticking out on the left
 
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