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brauner
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11. January 2009 @ 14:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi guys, I recently just did a new build. The specs are:
Motherboard: Asus M3A78-EM
CPU: AMD Phenom X4 9600 @ 2.3ghz
RAM: 6gb Kingston DDR2 800mhz
HDD: WD Caviar 500gig
PSU: Rosewill 450W ATX2.2
Logitech EX100 wireless keyboard and mouse
Vista Home Premium 64-bit

My problem is this: I just recently got vista up and a couple of programs. At random times, it could either be 2 min or 2 hours it will just randomly freeze. I am able to move the mouse but nothing else, not even CTRL+ALT+DEL. I have all the most recent driver updates I believe, and most recent BIOS. Im not sure if this is a virus, drivers, or a hardware problem.

What I have dont to try and fix it: Went into MSCONFIG and disabled all the useless stuff and have the only important stuff running such as the OS, virus scan etc. Disabled all standbys and sleep mode. I don't think doing a diagnosive startup would make a difference considering I have had the problem since I first built it.

Any ideas and help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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11. January 2009 @ 16:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have you checked your cpu temperature, make sure it's not overheating. I have the phenom 9750 and it runs 56 celcius full load.

The only time I expirenced random freezes (occured on xp) it happened about every 20 minutes. I was able to trace it to the onboard audio. when I installed a PCI audio card the problem went away.
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11. January 2009 @ 20:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It runs at 43 degrees on idle according to the bios, so its probably topping out at around 60 would be my guess. It might be the problem but I don't really think so. Because I thought if it overheated it would automatically reboot giving you an "overheat error"?
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12. January 2009 @ 14:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The PSU is nasty, I'd get rid of that as a precaution, as if it isn't the problem now, it will be later, change it for a Corsair VX 450W.
The RAM is my next suspect.



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13. January 2009 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
is the psu really that bad? it got good pretty good reviews on newegg so thats why i got it..It was like 50$ to so it cant be to bad. And I thought Kingston made some good RAM? I am also just thinking about doing a reformat back to vista 32-bit. Is that a bad idea? Am I really going to notice a huge difference? Because of the randomness of it happening I am just kind of convinced that its something that's just not working right in vista.
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13. January 2009 @ 12:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Trust me, all Rosewill power supplies are bad.





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13. January 2009 @ 13:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
haha alright...so how long will i get out of it? and do you think i should go back to vista 32-bit?
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13. January 2009 @ 13:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's not a question you should be asking, as when it goes, it will take the rest of your components with it.



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13. January 2009 @ 13:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so its really that bad? should i send it back to newegg? is that whats causing the freezing prob?
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It might not be, but it's certainly a possibility, replace it with the unit I recommended ASAP.



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13. January 2009 @ 13:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the corsair is a little out of my price range. Anything really good for about $50?
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13. January 2009 @ 13:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
It might not be, but it's certainly a possibility, replace it with the unit I recommended ASAP.
it really doesnt seem all that bad tho..pretty stable supply..3 yr warranty to
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brauner
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13. January 2009 @ 13:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so should i try vista 32-bit?
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13. January 2009 @ 13:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't think that will cure the problem.



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13. January 2009 @ 13:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so your definetly suggesting its the hardware i take it. And my guess is the PSU isn't going to fix the prob either. So your next guess is the RAM. Would memtest confirm this?
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13. January 2009 @ 13:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The RAM is the most likely suspect. I've seen a lot of DOA Kingston memory in my time. This does not mean you shouldn't replace the Power Supply though.



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13. January 2009 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
alright ill go for the psu change. i am also using newegg.ca cuz im canadian eh:P..but the 400w is 67 with 20$ m-i-r so thats nice. does newegg make u pay return ship?
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13. January 2009 @ 13:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by brauner:
alright ill go for the psu change. i am also using newegg.ca cuz im canadian eh:P..but the 400w is 67 with 20$ m-i-r so thats nice. does newegg make u pay return ship?
reading through newegg's FAQ just instantly made me change my mind about the PSU considering I bought it as a bundle with the case and they make you return them both together. Ill stick with the PSU and try to figure out the prob with your help
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13. January 2009 @ 13:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The penalty of combo deals. Well, I'll leave you with the risk of owning a PSU by one of the least reliable companies in the industry.



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13. January 2009 @ 17:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ya i guess i will have to stick with it..so what do you think i should do if memtest reports its all alright?
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13. January 2009 @ 19:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not stick with it, or consider the motherboard at fault.



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13. January 2009 @ 19:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i respect your opinion but what is so horrible about that power supply? like what makes it so bad?
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13. January 2009 @ 19:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rosewill PSUs typically work fine to start with, then after a few months go snap, crackle and pop and destroy half the components in your system.



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brauner
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13. January 2009 @ 22:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Rosewill PSUs typically work fine to start with, then after a few months go snap, crackle and pop and destroy half the components in your system.
oo ok i see how it is..so i guess its the same with the psus from like raidmax and sunbeam and all of those other cheap companies? i wasnt really looking at the brand name...i was just following reviews and a decent price range thinking it would do...its not really in my availability right now and to have blown 50$ like that and not being able to do anything about it is making me beat myself in the head. I know its a matter of when it will go but do you think I will even be able to get a year out of it?
 
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