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17. March 2007 @ 00:41 |
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Scan are okay generally, but have a really crap selection for watercooling kit.
You basically just need the following:
A 775 compatible CPU block.
A Pump with 1/2" push fittings.
A Radiator either passive (not my choice) or active (uses fans) then just decide if you want a single double or triple.
The bigger you get the better the thing will et rid of heat, but all would work fine, obviously the triples will normally be more expensive, and require more fans.
So remember to buy enough 12cm fans for the rad you buy if you go for active.
You could also replace the rad with a water chiller, which will allow cooling of the block to just below ambient (humidity depending)
A Reservoir, to allow you to fill the system and top it up.
Next you just need to mount them in a way that allows you to put the tubing in nice and neat and with as little slack as possible, but you must think ahead as to how you intend to empty the system in the future.
I went for a slightly longer tubing to the pump, so it could be removed from case and then the tube removed.
You could opt for a t-piece and run a line of tube with a stop in he end, this can then just be pulled from case and opened when required.
You need to make a decison on what size tube you will use, I would recommend 1/2" fittings with 7/16" tube or 1/2" if you can't get the 7/16".
For each device you will need 2 barbs, these will use 1/4" thread and have 1/2" push fit barbs.
So for the rad you'll need 2, 2 for the res the pump will have them built in, and the cpu block will have them supplied (at least the Swiftech ones will).
Next you'll need a roll of PTFE tape, to wrap around the 1/4" threads when they are inserted, and also tube clips to hold the tubes in place.
If you go for 7/16" tube, it will hold on its own, but still use clips, because the results of a leak will be bad.
You then need to think about what coolant you want to use.
Never use tap water, it will kill your system.
You can use distilled water which you then add an additive to, this is to stop bacteria growing and corrosion, you can also add a dye to make it look nice.
You can also buy bottled water that is pre-mixed with inhibitor.
Don't use de-ionised water, as it will try to iniose itself from the systems metal.
Or you can use a non conductive fluid such as MCT or Fluid XP, the latter being seriously priced, MCT was my choice.
Non conductive fluid will not cause damage if there is a leak, although technically distilled water shouldn't either.
Personally after spending £1000+ on a system I wasn't going to worry about £15 on coolant.
So once you have decided what parts to go for, you need to decide where you'll mount them, make sure that you have enough room to put things where they need to go.
For mounting the rad, you could use the Swiftech RadBox MCB-120 Revision 2 £16.99 form chilled PC.
The places I use are Specialtech, Coolercases, chilledpc, the coolingshop and over-clock and all are in the UK.
The trouble is they all have good parts but none stock everything I would buy for a total system.
Specialtech have very good priced rads, and the storm cPU block, but don't do 7/16" tubing.
You'll probably be looking at 2-3 orders to get everything.
CPU Block would be Swiftech Storm G4, or Apogee
Radiator Alphacool nexus extreme series (good quality, heat transfer and cheap)
Pump Laing pumps are the best D5 or D4 with 1/2" barb fittings.
Reservoir depends if you want in internal or extrenal.
Tube Maskleer 7/16" or Tygon
Here are a few links.
http://store.over-clock.com/Swiftech_Blocks.html
SWIFTECH STORM G4 £57.13
HTTP://STORE.OVER-CLOCK.COM/PUMPS___ACCESSORIES.HTML
LAING D5-VARIO (1/2") £64.53
http://store.over-clock.com/Reservoirs.html
CLEAR BAY RESERVOIR WITH BLUE LED - 5.25" £20.68
or
HTTP://STORE.OVER-CLOCK.COM/RESERVOIRS.HTML
EK MULTI-OPTION RES150 £24.49
HTTP://STORE.OVER-CLOCK.COM/TUBING.HTML
7/16" ID (9/16" OD THINWALLED) MASTERKLEER PVC TUBING £0.35 PER FOOT
CPU Water Blocks
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=545&page=1
Swiftech Storm CPU block £52.29
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=545&page=1
Swiftech Apogee GT Extreme £37.54
Pumps
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=537&page=1
Laing D5-Pump 12V 1/2" tubing connection w Speed Sensor £62.49
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=537&page=1
Laing D4-Pump 12V 1/2" tubing connection £43.87
Reservoirs
Internal
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=548&page=1
XSPC 5.25" Drive Bay Reservoir £19.99
External
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...550&page=1#tabs
Alphacool Cape Coolplex 10 external £15.99
Radiators
Twin Active
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=541&page=1
Alphacool NexXxos Xtreme II Radiator with 1/4" female thread £25.99
Single Active
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=541&page=1
Black Ice GT Stealth I 120mm Radiator £26.75
Passive
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=542&page=1
Alphacool Cape CORA 442 Passive cooling kit midi in black £63.00
Chiller
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=575&page=1
Waterchiller Titan 150 £279
Coolant
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=559&page=1
Alphacool Tec-Protect-UV blue 1 Litre £7.69 x1 or 2 to be safe and for spare.
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=514&page=1
Fluid XP+ EXTreme Midnight Blue UV £26.99 x1 or 2
Tubing
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=570&page=1
XSPC High Quality 1/2" Tubing @ £2.49 per Mtr
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=570&page=1
Tygon 1/2" Tubing £8.99 per Mtr
Barbs
Alphacool Screw Connection G1/4" for 1/2" Hose £1.05 x4
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=583&page=1
PTFE tape for sealing all screw in connections £1.99
Clips
Alphacool Hose Clips 15-17mm tubing £0.49 x8
Tools (not required)
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=583&page=1
Alphacool hose clamp for 2mm upto 15mm £4.19 x2
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...&cat=583&page=1
Alphacool Plastic Funnel £1.10
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synteck
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17. March 2007 @ 05:27 |
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Thanks man,
I was wondering but i doubt if it would work, would it be possible to use nitrogen instead of water?
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17. March 2007 @ 07:41 |
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Nice idea.
Maybe just look at getting a phase cooler.
£500 or less from eBay (theres a seller on there that deals with coolers) then you're looking at sub zero temps.
They're not that hard to install either, not too different from a waterblock.
If you start to use Nitrogen, then you'll need a different setup, also not sure where you'd actually lay your hands on it (scary stuff-not for me).
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17. March 2007 @ 08:12 |
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If you start to use Nitrogen, then you'll need a different setup, also not sure where you'd actually lay your hands on it (scary stuff-not for me).
What are the risks of nitro?
Do I have to refil the phase cooler with nitro often?
sub-zero temps no does that allow good cpu operation since electronics must have some kind of heat trace for operation?
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17. March 2007 @ 10:54 |
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17. March 2007 @ 11:23 |
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17. March 2007 @ 12:37 |
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Its probably Dielectric Grease.
Most CPUs will run fine at those temps.
If you do a search for Conroe OC database then you'll see quite a few systems running phase.
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17. March 2007 @ 13:51 |
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synteck,
Liquid Nitrogen is indeed very dangerous stuff as it boils many times colder than ambient, It's boiling point is 195.8 °C (77.35 °K, -320.44 °F). If some were to spill on you hand or arm you would lose it as it would freeze solid instantly. You definately need protective equipment to even handle it. A single drop could do irreversible damage to any living thing. Not something for the average computer enthusiast to be messing around with.
theone
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17. March 2007 @ 18:44 |
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i got the 4pin to 3pin converter conected the vantec tornados to the akas junior controller but the fun controller still isnt working i no the fan controller works because i tested it with a 3pin fan
does anyone have any ideas, what i noticed on the 4pin to 3pin is that the 3pin female which goes into the fan controller has a black and yellow wire instead of a black and red wire could this be the problem??
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17. March 2007 @ 19:21 |
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Its probably Dielectric Grease.
Most CPUs will run fine at those temps.
If you do a search for Conroe OC database then you'll see quite a few systems running phase.
But is Dielectric Grease required for that setup?
theonejrs
Thanks for that but until now i haven't seen any commercial cpu blocks which use nitrogen probably for many reasons, yet unsafe, thus experiments reviel the true power of nitrogen, is there a similar liquid but less risky than it?
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17. March 2007 @ 22:10 |
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synteck,
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is there a similar liquid but less risky than it?
The closest thing I can think of would be CO2. Unfortunately the public has to be protected (from ourselves)! Things like Liquid Nitrogen can easily be used to kill someone so it's controlled. Imagine someones heart suddenly being turned to ice and you sort of get the picture. Better yet imagine a bird flying through some Liquid Nitrogen and falling to the ground and shattering into a million pieces. Scarey stuff, Nitrogen!!
Happy Computering,
theone
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18. March 2007 @ 02:30 |
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Its probably Dielectric Grease.
Most CPUs will run fine at those temps.
If you do a search for Conroe OC database then you'll see quite a few systems running phase.
But is Dielectric Grease required for that setup?
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18. March 2007 @ 03:14 |
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You can get away without it, depends on how good the head seal is.
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18. March 2007 @ 03:49 |
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but is it usally required, and can it be taken off easily?
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18. March 2007 @ 05:28 |
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Best to read up on the link I gave earlier.
They'll be plenty of people there who have actually used it.
I'm going to to use Phae, but haven't done so yet, I could only advise on what I've already read .
Basically you're in the same boat as me with this one.
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18. March 2007 @ 13:55 |
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dielctric grease is used to stop condensation from building up around your cpu chip when temps are close to freezing in the surrounding air, and it also seals off the chip so moisture doesnt get inside of it
dualcore-pentium(D) VIIV 2.8ghz ,4gb ram, creative x-fi xtreme music, 300gb SATA internal & 1 tb external, ATI v7350 FireGl ,dell xps 400
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18. March 2007 @ 13:58 |
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Hey Guys;
I'm new to overclocking and am looking for a good guide to OC'ing my cpu. Please, if anyone knows of a good [and up-to-date] guide for overclocking the new am2's. Please provide me a link so I can get a basis for learning how to OC. Thanx.
p.s. my comp. specs are in my sig.;)
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18. March 2007 @ 14:00 |
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I alsmost forgot i need HELP!!! I just moved my computer with me to athens to go to college and when i left home i was using a dual monitor setup but i left my other monitor at home. My problem is that now I can no longer use my dvi out I can only use my VGA out. Every time i tell my monitor to switch to dvi it says its going into powersave mode. I think it may be because of my shitty ass geforce 7300 le. The first day i had it it did this same thing and i had to send it back to dell for another one. And now the second one is f***ing up. Is there any way I can force the computer to recognize dvi or am i going to have to get a new card.
dualcore-pentium(D) VIIV 2.8ghz ,4gb ram, creative x-fi xtreme music, 300gb SATA internal & 1 tb external, ATI v7350 FireGl ,dell xps 400
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19. March 2007 @ 17:51 |
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.....So NOBODY has knows of a guide to help me overclock my AMD AM2 3200+///????.....
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19. March 2007 @ 19:09 |
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20. March 2007 @ 07:02 |
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sam if your underclocking your ram you should be able to tighten those timings, you shouldnt need to slacken them.
all the settings are disabled bar those i use, sata ports 1+2, ide primary, usb (not legacy, thats off) and the cpu thremal thingie is on too. thats it, if i dont need it ,its off.
for me to get to 1600 fsb i needed to drop the multi to 8 (only worked with x6 or x8 and i still cant work out why 7 or 9 nine failed) i had 2.178v ram, 1.47v cpu and auto for nb. the vdroop on my mobo took the cpuv down to 1.45/1.44v under prolonged heavy load (orthos) and if it dropped bellow 1.44v at 3.2ghz it would fail it.
sam i think you realy need to put the pro 7 blowwing over the power regulators at the rear of the cpu socket as it is these overheating that causes the vdroop.
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20. March 2007 @ 07:10 |
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I'm not underclocking it, but for some reason the board gives the memory a speed slightly under the 800mhz rating when you overclock. In order to rotate my heatsink (which I do want to do, mainly to stop it exhausting all the hot air from my CPU and northbridge into the power supply) I will need to cut some of the fan guard off, which I haven't got round to doing yet, but the rest I will try.
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20. March 2007 @ 11:14 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Halen5150,
Check for information here. The guide is for the 754/939 platrorm but all of the principals still apply. It's 86 pages! Very informative reading as well!
http://www.short-media.com/printcontent.php?print=r&id=300
Hope it helps,
Best Regards,
theone
DAMN DUDE!!lol;;; This is just what I was looking for thanx! [Now it's time to rreeaaaddd...loll....]
p;)
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20. March 2007 @ 19:31 |
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Halen5150,
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DAMN DUDE!!lol;;; This is just what I was looking for thanx! [Now it's time to rreeaaaddd...loll....
It's the best guide I've found so far. If you have questions, the answers are in there. I printed mine out and keep it handy!
Happy Computering,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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20. March 2007 @ 19:54 |
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well i know i sure do need help
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