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31. August 2010 @ 05:03 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
russ could you give us pics of both xp and win7 screenshots.
Shaff,
I was going to do just that, but I have a small problem. My computer died! Not what you think though! LOL!! I had just gotten up, and hadn't even turned on my computer yet. I was in the bathroom and suddenly the lights got very bright, and the couple of incandescent bulbs in the bathroom blew out. there was a lot of noise coming from behind my house, then the lights went out. I was eating lunch when they came back on, so I finished lunch and then turned on the computer. The lights came on the fans were working and the two optical drives addressed themselves. Then it shut down. Hasn't worked since!
Some guy got lost or something and wound up taking out a power transmission pole, which are spaced about 300' apart. The wire whipped back and got our power pole in the back alley, and just fried the ground leg. The Earth ground is a pole that is only in the ground 6 to 8 feet. Since there's been no rain since February, it's not a very good ground. I'm inclined to think that since the computer wasn't even on, and nothing looks or smells burnt, I'm going to RMA the motherboard to GigaByte. I'm not feeling good, so I'll check the CPU and memory in Oxi in the morning. It was working fine when I went to bed, and it didn't make any strange noises or pops when I did turn it on. All seemed normal for about 4 seconds, and then no power. no post or beeps, no nothing. The guy from the power company seems to think that there may have been some feedback through the ground system, but the PSU is good , as it was the first thing I checked. It fired up the guy across the street's Intel Quad rig. I don't see any way that there could have been a voltage problem with the neutral leg, through the ground leg, without damaging the PSU, or blowing the surge Protector in it. I just hope the CPU is still good, or I'll have to RMA that as well! I'm using an old Optiplex GX150 right now, and will be for a few days. Oh well, what are you going to do! Just one more challenge! LOL!!
Russ
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31. August 2010 @ 07:49 |
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Wow, no surge protector on the mains to your PC?
That's unlucky, one advantage of underground electricity cabling I suppose.
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31. August 2010 @ 08:09 |
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No surge protector would certainly do it. We had someone hit the electrical box in front of our house a few years ago and it took out the fan controller on my Enermax Liberty 620W. This was with a surge protector BTW. All the lights in the house flickered for a second, then everything shut off. After the power was restored, I turned on my PC to hear the PSU fan maxed out. Weird as it didn't affect any other components...
Also just for the record. Most surge protectors are designed only to protect your PC once. They have a an overload circuit fuse that, once blown, is usually non-replaceable. You must buy a whole new surge protector or you no longer have the protection. I bought a rather high end Belkin(~$100) to make sure I got one with a replaceable fuse. Have had to replace the fuse twice since owning it. Once from an electrical storm, and once for the when the junction box got taken out.
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31. August 2010 @ 08:14 |
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Surely you wouldn't be able to use it without though? As in, the surge protector stops any current flowing once it's blown. If it just suddenly becomes not protected after one surge with no way of knowing, that's pretty bad :S
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31. August 2010 @ 13:26 |
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Finally got the 1200Rpm scythe back in my secondary. I was running a 1900Rpm scythe. That sucker was fairly obnoxious. Forgot how quiet my secondary could be. My secondary may very well be slightly quieter than my primary now. But my primary has 4X the hardware too :p
I live on the dangerous side. My power strips aren't protected LOL! Nah, I think they are, but I really should replace them. I've been concerned lately about my video playing properly. The other day, I was kicked back, and my foot bumped one of the cords under my desk. The video paused for a half a moment, right when my foot made contact with the cord. Coincidence? I think not LOL! Power strips are fairly cheap on newegg too. Guess I'm going to the bank this morning so I can prepare for a newegg order :D
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31. August 2010 @ 15:20 |
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Something I never knew about surge protectors, just like Sammy suggested, how in the hell would you know if your still getting protection without a replaceable fuse one.
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31. August 2010 @ 15:32 |
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31. August 2010 @ 17:27 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Wow, no surge protector on the mains to your PC?
That's unlucky, one advantage of underground electricity cabling I suppose.
Sam,
That's why I'm not sure if the high voltage from the feeder line caused the problem. It didn't blow the PSU, and the surge protector didn't blow. The guy from the power company said the the amount of juice that went all the way down the ground leg from the pole, was tied into the Earth ground, but it isn't near deep enough in the ground to be effective, and it's just a hollow pipe. When I used to install X-Ray equipment, the Federal requirement was a 30 foot copper rod, driven into the ground with about a foot sticking out of the ground. The problem with how the do mains here, is that there is only one line that has power, or two for 220v. The other two lines are the neutral and the ground, which are tied together. In my case, there is no way that the Earth ground could take care of that much power, so the power company guy feels that some of that power would bleed back through the neutral from the ground. I can't see any way that it could have been the case here since the PSU is OK. If what he says is true, it should have at least blown the surge protection in the PSU.
There were no strange sounds or smells. No smoke, no nothing! When I did turn it on it acted normal for about 4-5 seconds, and the power shut down. no post, no nothing. If you pull the ATX 2x4 12v plug, it will continue to let the lights and fans run, but the instant you plug it in, it powers down. I had no hint of troubles with either the voltages or heat. It ran flawlessly all night, and shut down normally when I went to sleep. When Russell goes out on a trip, I'm going to stick my CPU in his. His is a 95w motherboard, but I only want to see if the computer posts and shows the CPU. I don't think it is drawing 125w all the time, only under load. I'll let you know later. Just another Speed bump, in the road of life! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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31. August 2010 @ 17:57 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
Something I never knew about surge protectors, just like Sammy suggested, how in the hell would you know if your still getting protection without a replaceable fuse one.
Fred,
The good ones have an indicator light. The cheepo ones with a push button circuit breaker, are all but useless. Most are nothing more than glorified extension cords! Some are even dangerous! When I added surge protection to my 700w GameStream PSU, I incorporated a panel mount fuse holder that uses a special slow-blow 15A fuse. If you use a regular Buss fuse, it will shatter the glass. The surge protector creates a dead short on the mains, which blows the fuse. It's basically the same way GE X-Rays have been doing it for 50 years. Without the fuse, it would have to trip the circuit breaker, and that's not a good thing. Since the fuse and PSU are good, I doubt the power company's feedback theory. It powered up a neighbors Intel quad core rig with no problems.
Best Regards,
Russ
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31. August 2010 @ 18:20 |
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Quote:
Surely you wouldn't be able to use it without though? As in, the surge protector stops any current flowing once it's blown. If it just suddenly becomes not protected after one surge with no way of knowing, that's pretty bad :S
Sad but true...
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Something I never knew about surge protectors, just like Sammy suggested, how in the hell would you know if your still getting protection without a replaceable fuse one.
Exactly. You don't. The ones with breakers can just be flipped back, but I see lots and lots of the cheap ones being used with the fuse blown. They work fine, just no overload protection.
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I got a new one! I'm currently running 2 strips, so this will eliminate the need for 2 :D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812107196
Very nice. Mine looks similar to that but cost a bit more XD
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The good ones have an indicator light. The cheepo ones with a push button circuit breaker, are all but useless. Most are nothing more than glorified extension cords! Some are even dangerous! When I added surge protection to my 700w GameStream PSU, I incorporated a panel mount fuse holder that uses a special slow-blow 15A fuse.
Yep mine has an indicator light and a fuse panel. AFAIK Mine also uses the slow blow fuses as well. I know they're not regular Buss fuses as I had to order them from an electronics service catalog to find ones that matched the original.
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31. August 2010 @ 18:23 |
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LOL! I filtered it down to the lowest cost one, with 12 outlets. Thankfully the reviews were very good ;)
I only hope the 250Gb drive I bought for an Xbox is gonna work. Reviews were saying they did it, and it works well. If that's true I shouldn't have a problem. Google and I are good friends ;)
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31. August 2010 @ 18:24 |
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Am now worried. My surge protector unit used to have a very dim green light underneath the power switch. It's not been illuminated for the last couple of months. Suppose I ought to go and buy another 6-way!
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31. August 2010 @ 18:31 |
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using a surge protector has never crossed my mind till now :S
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31. August 2010 @ 18:33 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
using a surge protector has never crossed my mind till now :S
I generally don't worry with good PSU's. But there are multiple devices hooked to my strips ;)
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31. August 2010 @ 20:21 |
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Good info here, stuff I never knew about, Russ what do you think about the one Omeg just bought, if you think that's a good one let me know cause I'll order the sucker, after what you guys told us I'm now sure I'm using the crappy one's.
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31. August 2010 @ 21:01 |
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hmm, I should probably look into a UPS, all the ones I have now were free so I doubt they're any good lol.
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31. August 2010 @ 22:35 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Surely you wouldn't be able to use it without though? As in, the surge protector stops any current flowing once it's blown. If it just suddenly becomes not protected after one surge with no way of knowing, that's pretty bad :S
Sam,
A surge protector doesn't stop any current from flowing, it's a dead short to the neutral when blown. It's an open circuit until it's blown. It's like a big diode, in that it only passes current one way That's why the need for a fuse. No rocket science here, I installed mine the same way as General Electric does on the xrays. The fuseholder goes between the neutral leg and one side of the surge protector. The big knock on the OCZ Gamestar 700w PSU I bought from Oman7, was no surge protection. It cost me $34 for the parts and about 10 minutes to install it.
Best Regards,
Russ
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1. September 2010 @ 04:32 |
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Funny the thread turns in this direction...not funny for Russ, but funny that I have regular surge protector but have been eyeing ups/line conditioner such as this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...1-050-_-Product
It may seem like a bit much for home applications, but i often have 2 PC's, stereo receiver, studio monitors and other peripherals plugged in at once.
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1. September 2010 @ 12:30 |
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My mom would probably buy that one up. She loves those backup systems. It's not uncommon for this area to have brownouts and blackouts ;)
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1. September 2010 @ 15:25 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
True but for the record VLC has mediocre image quality. Its one redeeming feature is its ability to play absolutely any file ever. I find though that Media Player Classic with the K-Lite Standard codec pack I can play everything with fantastic image quality and DXVA. So VLC is extremely simple, and MPC takes some configuration to get it working to the fullest...
VLC (on all my machines) has gone downhill the last few releases, pausing/stuttering, maybe that's why there's been quite a few updates in short succession. Am not impressed at all, am losing interest ib VLC fast. 0.86h on linux is still fine though, i suppose i could reinstall the last known decent version on my windows machines (1.05 i think was the last one that worked fine for me). No biggie, i also use Media Player Classic via K-Lite Mega pack (no problems there, but there never are).
As to UPSes, i've always used one, i have a 1500VA unit protecting the bulk of my kit. Everything else around the house lives on surge protectors
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1. September 2010 @ 15:45 |
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VLC has always been problematic for me, is why I use MPC home cinema.
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1. September 2010 @ 19:09 |
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I've had no problems with VLC..The newer one now supports MKVs & HD at a much smother play back
Can't understand the problems you guys R havin with it
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1. September 2010 @ 19:14 |
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I'm having problems with the last few versions across loads of machines. When stuff like happens i usually get the hint and give it up as a bad job. Or i'll just put version 1.05 back onto the machines.
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I never had any problems with it. In fact, I'll praise how well it works. But the image quality simply sucks, especially for HD. Doesn't even remotely compare to Media Player Classic. Playing the movies at a 1:1 ratio as well BTW. Not upscaled for a bigger screen and not downscaled for a smaller screen.
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1. September 2010 @ 20:09 |
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Creaky,
Now it's directing all posts for this thread to the Afterdawn Home page. I have to go back a few days, so I can get the thread to open on page 84.
Russ
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