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29. August 2010 @ 13:43 |
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I like netmeter. When I'm not running a P2P software, it totally comes in handy ;)
Thanks once again Creaky ♥
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29. August 2010 @ 15:36 |
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@Russ
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29. August 2010 @ 16:07 |
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Indeed. Change always brings in the new ;) And to each his/her own. I find "7" quite useful and saves me time over XP. Things just seem smoother about it. Plus I'm a moderate gamer, so "7" was...Logical of course!
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29. August 2010 @ 17:51 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Now you know as well as I do it isn't the OS that's at fault with DVD playback quality :P
That statement about only being able to use optical/digital I don't believe is true. Just disable the respective part of the sound card you're not currently using. Only takes a few clicks.
Active icon for network activity is a waste of time in modern times, as so many programs use network/internet it'd basically have no purpose. If you want that sort of info open the task manager and go to networking, view the graph. Does the same job but in much more detail.
Using icons instead of List view is easy, just click the views button (left one of the three buttons beneath the search box).
Sam,
No, I don't know that it isn't the OS fault for the crappy video quality when playing a DVD in Win7. I'm using the latest drivers for Win7, yet all of my HD content looks like crap on Win7, yet looks beautiful on XP. I'm running the same Power DVD 7 I use in XP, with the Win7 patch. I also tried it with WMP, and it's just as bad. Horrible Aliasing, with jaggles everywhere. The picture is scaled differently than it is with XP, as it doesn't cover the full width of the screen. It's almost like M$ deliberately went out of their way to try to make HD content look as bad as possible, if it's not on a BlueRay disk. Commercial DVDs look fine, and are the proper size!
As far as the sound goes, and your "I don't believe is true"??? Well here's the reality of it! It "is" true! If you plug in the Analog audio connection, only the Analog will work. it cuts off both the Coax and the Optical S/PDIF, and you can't turn it on in the control panel. If you unplug it, they both work. it will play when you plug in the Analog, only until you click OK on the little window that pops up to confirm what you are plugging in. The instant you click on it the S/PDIF sound vanishes. I can use all three with XP, and It's been plugged in like that for a couple of years. I can't even tell you why I unplugged it! Frustration I guess! I wasted a couple of hours on it, downloading and upgrading the Realtec HD audio Drivers, trying to get it to work. It also defaults to 16 bit sound, even when the S/PDIF is working. I had to set it manually to 24 bit sound, and set that as the default.
The Network activity light is a personal preference. While it may be worthless to you, I find it very useful, as an alert for potential problems.
The Icon thing is something I can't seem to find an answer to. I set the window size when I open something so I can put two windows side by side on the screen, and move things freely between them. XP window size is set so there are 7 rows of icons. I haven't found a way to accomplish that yet.
How much I will use Win7 will depend on how much of my video editing software will work in Win7. I need and use about 12 programs fairly regularly, and if they won't work, then I'll be using XP most of the time. That's the biggest reason I wanted to set up dual boot with XP to begin with! The main thing is that I have Win7 installed, authenticated and registered to my computer. XP is viable for the next 3 1/2 years, and I don't think I will be around in 2014, so Russell can worry about that when the time comes.
On the whole, Win7 has it's flaws, but it is pretty good, and runs quite slick, especially after I made my recent changes to the setup in my computer. I'll have to find where that performance test thing is and run it, to see how I'm doing.
Best Regards,
Russ
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29. August 2010 @ 18:04 |
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russ have you tried right clicking the sound icon on the try and opening up the sound manager? Then right click the spidf and click mke default? (while all are plugged in?)
honestly if your having problems stya with xp, because then you won't get so frustrated, and tbh its not worth the hassel. Live your live in comfort. :)
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29. August 2010 @ 18:26 |
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Windows Media Player and PowerDVD are both very mediocre players for High-Def, WMP especially. Use any of:
Media Player Classic
Media Player Classic HomeCinema
Nero Showtime
VideoLAN (VLC)
Mplayer
I've used all of these and got decent High-Def playback.
All I can say about the analog/digital audio is that the last time I tried it, I don't remember that happening. Why would you use both at once anyway though? I don't see the point...
If you want a network activity light, really you can just look at your network device - router, modem, switch, hub, whatever. That does the same job. Also, the old XP one was very slow to update so largely useless. The higher response times of physical LEDs is often better for judging network utilisation.
On any part of the screen, hold control and move the mousewheel. That adjusts icon sizes, in explorer windows and even on the desktop.
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29. August 2010 @ 18:39 |
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I use Media player classic HC, WMP 12, And arcsoft totalmedia theatre 3. Arcsofts player seems to be the best for video quality, and MPC HC for video compatibility. But I've only seen a few files that Arcsofts player didn't like.
I haven't had the troubles that russ is describing. Even DVD looks fairly agreeable, provided it isn't highly compressed. anything under 2500-3000Kb/s is gonna look nearly terrible. And I prefer HD to be upwards of 5,000Kb/s :p
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29. August 2010 @ 18:53 |
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Creaky, Thanks, going to check out netmeter in minute.
Originally posted by omegaman7:
I like netmeter. When I'm not running a P2P software, it totally comes in handy ;)
Thanks once again Creaky ♥
Why don't you use it with P2P stuff, is there a conflict of some sort?
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29. August 2010 @ 21:07 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
russ have you tried right clicking the sound icon on the try and opening up the sound manager? Then right click the spidf and click mke default? (while all are plugged in?)
honestly if your having problems stya with xp, because then you won't get so frustrated, and tbh its not worth the hassel. Live your live in comfort. :)
Shaff,
No worries about my getting frustrated. You have to fall down and pick ypourself up if you are ever going to learn anything. I figured some work-arounds for the nVidia control panel. I just made a shortcut of the control panel to the desktop. I'll probably have some problems with my Diskstakka, and maybe Win rar. I just work at it for 3-4 hours, and then go do something else with XP. The real issue with the video in mostly in the background. The foreground almost always looks good.
Whats getting me right now is I can't locate where I adjusted the Audio bit rate and speed. I thought it was in the Audio Manager??? I'll get there, trust me!
Russ
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29. August 2010 @ 21:17 |
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What I meant was, my P2P software has a graphic meter of bandwidth. Netmeter comes in handy when I'm not running P2P, and want to see my bandwidth useage ;) Plus Netmeter has potential that (For example) Utorrent does not ;)
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29. August 2010 @ 21:43 |
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right click which audio output you want, properties and then IICR the final tab has audio quality.
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30. August 2010 @ 01:25 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Windows Media Player and PowerDVD are both very mediocre players for High-Def, WMP especially. Use any of:
Media Player Classic
Media Player Classic HomeCinema
Nero Showtime
VideoLAN (VLC)
Mplayer
I've used all of these and got decent High-Def playback.
All I can say about the analog/digital audio is that the last time I tried it, I don't remember that happening. Why would you use both at once anyway though? I don't see the point...
If you want a network activity light, really you can just look at your network device - router, modem, switch, hub, whatever. That does the same job. Also, the old XP one was very slow to update so largely useless. The higher response times of physical LEDs is often better for judging network utilisation.
On any part of the screen, hold control and move the mousewheel. That adjusts icon sizes, in explorer windows and even on the desktop.
Sam,
It was just the fact that they were hooked up that way ever since I got the Optical to work on my Sony. I didn't find a single suggestion on line, to check that. The reason it is always hooked up is because people are always asking if the S/PDIF sound is better. I usually throw on some music or start off with the Analog playing a Dolby Surround sound track from a DVD, and just reach over and flip it to optical, just to see the expression on their face. Or, some Theater Organ music, live with my computer generated Wurlitzer. Shakes the house pretty good. It's equal to about 12 lbs. of air pressure. Haven't broken any light bulbs with it yet, but I have broken a few with the real thing. How that 10" Woofer can handle the 32' Bass notes and not turn into shredded wheat, is beyond me. You can't hear any apparent Doubling, so it's got to be a very well made Woofer! You more feel the 32' pipes, than hear them at the lowest notes. The lowest Bass note is 12 cycles It's the difference between Loud and Powerful! The Woofer can blow out a candle from about 1' away! Anyway, that's why I had all of them hooked up.
I like Power DVD for it's sound and picture quality, although Nero Showtime does give a beautiful picture, just a little weak in the sound department, compared to Power DVD. Power DVD led the pack by about 2 Generations, as far back as Power DVD 6, in both sound and picture Quality. I've used it since version 4!
I also forgot to mention that the version of win 7 I have, was downloaded in July, directly from Micro$oft, so it's very new, maybe even the latest as it hasn't asked me to allow a single upgrade yet.
Best Regards,
Russ
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30. August 2010 @ 03:33 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
right click which audio output you want, properties and then IICR the final tab has audio quality.
Thanks shaff!
Russ
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30. August 2010 @ 05:29 |
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As I say, I'm pretty certain I left my 3.5mm analog connectors plugged in when I switched to optical, I think it worked fine, but I'll have to test again when I get back to York in a month's time, where my optical speakers are.
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30. August 2010 @ 06:28 |
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The NEW VLC is HD , VERY NICE Picture
I like the fast forward on the numbers keypad + or -
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30. August 2010 @ 07:14 |
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VLC has been able to play HD content for years... :S
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30. August 2010 @ 10:28 |
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russ why not upgrade to the newest powerdvdv?
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30. August 2010 @ 12:24 |
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What, has no one else tried arcsoft totalmedia theatre 3? It really is good! :p
Granted, it's not freeware :p
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30. August 2010 @ 13:10 |
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No excuse for a media player to not be free really, since so many others are
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30. August 2010 @ 13:20 |
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I think they were one of the first to support Blu Ray. That's why I tried it ;) It's only crashed a couple times in months.
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30. August 2010 @ 15:49 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
russ why not upgrade to the newest powerdvdv?
Shaff,
I have PowerDVD 9, and it looks just as bad. it really doesn't matter, as it's the way Win7 scales the video. The screen resolution of the video is different between XP and Win7. The native resolution is 1680x1050. I've tried hardware interlacing and lowering the resolution, and the DVDs all come up in some strange setting, that isn't even as wide as the screen, but commercial DVDs play just fine, and at the proper resolution. there is so much aliasing that the edges of things, particularly curves look like saw blades. the picture looks like you are trying to watch it with tiny vertical blinds in front of it, partially closed. The further away something appears in the background, the worse it looks. The picture has herringbone stripes in it, real tiny ones, but it has all these little jaggles within the vertical rows of LCDs. Jpg, gif and BMP pictures look excellent, clear as a bell. I'm waiting on a friend of mine to bring his 1080p monitor over to see if that helps any.
I tried an experiment last night. I made a copy of Wal-E. It looks great with XP, but only the original looks good in Win7. The copy looks like crap! It almost seems like micro$oft detects that it's a copy (a legitimate one, in this instance since I own the original), and deliberately makes any copy look bad. The copy looks great when played in XP! It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Win7 didn't nacker the video when it detects what they feel is an illegal copy. Bill Gates has gotten so obsessed with control and security. Win7 makes it quite plain that it wants you to do things their way, and makes it really hard to change some things. Gates has gotten to be such a control freak, almost as bad as Steve Jobs, and he wrote the book on being a control Freak!
Don't get me wrong, there's a lot to like with Win7, but some of the simplest things can be so difficult to do. I still haven't figured out how to make the computer "Select All" in a folder when you want to move files from one place to another. It's marginally faster in benchmarks than XP, and certainly better than Vista. It's also not quite as stable as XP. I had to up my CPU voltage and CPU NB VID so it wouldn't BSOD when running DVDRB/CCE with Win7. You would think that if the computer was 100% stable with XP, it would have the same stability with Win7, but it doesn't. Heat is not the issue either, as the CPU only hits a max of 43C, and the motherboard a max of 40C when running rebuilder. Even stress testing with multi-core Prime95 at 100% load only gets the CPU temp to 47C!
Russ
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30. August 2010 @ 16:21 |
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Dvd backups look fine on my screen. Provided they are at least ~3,000KB/s. Players/codecs definitely have their differences. The default renderer in dvd shrink looks like total garbage. I leave it like that though, because most of the other settings require disabling Aero, which I find quite irritating. Even WMP 12 plays my backups agreeably :p Surely somethings buggered on your system. Whether its hardware or drivers is to be determined. Nero showtime was a good player too, but I think there was an audio issue last time I had it installed. For playing blu ray anyway. I think it lacked a codec. Which is probably easily fixed. But I bumped into the Arcsoft player solution, and haven't looked back :p
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30. August 2010 @ 16:25 |
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russ could you give us pics of both xp and win7 screenshots.
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30. August 2010 @ 17:28 |
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Ctrl+A for select all, been that way since Win95.
As for the copy protection, no such thing exists. Windows does not alter image quality on videos that are pirate, it can't tell :P
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30. August 2010 @ 17:49 |
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True but for the record VLC has mediocre image quality. Its one redeeming feature is its ability to play absolutely any file ever. I find though that Media Player Classic with the K-Lite Standard codec pack I can play everything with fantastic image quality and DXVA. So VLC is extremely simple, and MPC takes some configuration to get it working to the fullest...
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