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I have been looking at those Sceptre monitors, I really like em a lot. When you get yours and get it up and running let me know how it looks especially the brightness and clarity. also aren't you running the zalman 9005 cpu fan? if so how much space is needed from the cpu to case? ok?
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15. March 2006 @ 19:37 |
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how do you like the raptor 150? Is there as good as stated? I want to get one to replace my 36. Is it possiable to transfer everything to a new 150(os is on my 36) and just replace it with the 150?
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15. March 2006 @ 19:50 |
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Baltekmi
Check the Zalman website. There's a lot of compatibility info with various boards and clearance specs you need for installation. They also have little "how to" videos on installation.
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15. March 2006 @ 19:55 |
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if you have a circit city nearby, they may have some on display. the one here in kalamazoo, mi, does.
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15. March 2006 @ 20:04 |
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personally I have had a much better experience with Tiger Direct. It used to be that there prices were in line with Newegg but always had high shipping. New egg used to have great shipping price, but that has gone way up also. BUT!!! They always beat Tigers prices. But since they are 176 miles from me, I always get any order the next day.
I visited there store one weekend( the warehouse is in the back), it was awesum. To see so many computer products all in one place, well it was a moving experience. Wife wasn't as thrilled!
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15. March 2006 @ 20:09 |
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No Circuit City in near a 100 mile radius. Actually that's only 55 to 60 miles as the crow flies, but crows bump their bottoms on the hills around here. LOL I live in a rural area. It's about equal distance to Knoxville, TN and Kingsport, TN and the other cities large enough to have a Circuit City are even farther. I checked the store locator. About all we have is Wal Mart, Sears, Penneys, and the usual stores seen in most small towns, such as Radio Shack (not even one of those in the closest small town).
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15. March 2006 @ 20:25 |
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So brobear, you are a "country boy"...lol:)
Also, you guys may consider LG brand. It is an offbrand(made By sony). You will not find a review or link, That Links LG to sony but this is the truth. My father in law has been in the business for 40 years as sales rep for pioneer, cerwin vega, klipch and electravoice EV...etc. Then started his own consuting firm. If you have ever been to Disney World in Florida, his company did the sounds system there.
Anyway Making a short story way too long. He has inside info. And the free stuff he sends me is over the top!
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15. March 2006 @ 23:06 |
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theonejrs , i knew you like it ,i have the Veiw Sonic 20.1 that iam running at 1600x1200 at 70Hz and wow gaming on it and watching a dvd is life like, amazing picture
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So brobear, you are a "country boy"...lol:)
At least you didn't use the old bear in the woods pun. That one's old. I tired of the city lights several years back and opted for a life in the country where life is a bit more laid back and the crime level isn't so high. Thanks for the insight on LG, but I didn't consider it an off brand. They've been making some good equipment. I've heard a lot of good "word of mouth" recommendaitons for the brand and I've noticed the brand in several stores. I've also noticed the ads in a number of leading publications. So they're not exactly unknown. On some equipment, I think I'd prefer the LG over the Sony.
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16. March 2006 @ 06:54 |
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Hey, Well i have my 3700 at 2.2 whichj is stock. But i set myne at gaming to a 2.65, I was wondering if if it is unsafe to keep going back and forth.. Is that o.k. To do?
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17. March 2006 @ 08:01 |
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It's been a while, AD stopped emailing me about new posts until today, and I haven't thought to check back. I personally see the FX60 topping the Conroe slightly, and you can bet that once the Conroe is out up and running the FX60 is going to drop in price. The same has happened with the X1900XT-X and 7900GTX graphics cards, as soon as the latter having been released, the former has gone from £382 to just £306. ($667 to $534). The FX60 may be slightly hotter, but it'll run better and almost undoubtedly overclock better. While I like ATi's graphics cards, their motherboard chipsets are agreeably flawed, so that's a choked FX60 they're using.
Glad you're sceptre monitor's as cool as it is theonejrs, I'll look into your thread shortly.
Repeated Overclocks are best done with software because it's easier, but there shouldn't be any harm in changing the settings of the CPU often. Personally, if it games at the overclock and stays stable, I'd leave it OC'ed.
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17. March 2006 @ 10:52 |
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Yeah i know, I was just wanting to make sure nothing would happen if i did it repeatedly. Thats all.. And i am going to get a 7900gt video card from egg for 309.00 It is cheaper than the 7800gtx and has the same specs... What do u think.. and i am getting a lcd monitor.....
PS: I was wondering if it has 2 imputs on it, Can i run 2 monitors of of 1 video card?
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17. March 2006 @ 13:34 |
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7900GT may seem to have the same specs, but a mid-type card of the range may not have everything that the top-end one does. You might want to thoroughly check the specification, or just buy an X1900 since there's been a recent price crash.
You can run two monitors off one video card, but you need to make sure your windows desktop and graphics drivers allow it.
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17. March 2006 @ 17:30 |
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My 3.2 prescott not overclocked idles all day @ 32C. 1.5 hours of encoding video 49C. 450 watt P/S, stable voltages across the board.
If you're running above 38C idle, somethings wrong (assuming you're in a 22C room).
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17. March 2006 @ 19:57 |
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RebelRide,
I don't know a thing about 3.2s but I do know that a 2.8/533 Northwood w/512Mb PC2700 ran in the mid to high forties. The default settings in Asusprobe for the 3.0 is 72C on my motherboard (Socket 478). One would suspect that with these default settings Asus pretty much knew before the Prescott came out that heat was going to be an issue. You don't see default settings anywhere near that high on an AMD socket 939 or socket A Asus board! I believe that the default setting is somewhere around around 50C. 47C comes to mind!
One of the things I've learned using Asusprobe is that certain settings run hotter or colder than others. When I was oc'd to 3.60 and upped it to 3.70 the temps dropped an average of 8C. The computer ran great until the first time I used DVD Shrink at 3.70. It failed. I was getting read errors. As soon as I backed it down to 3.60 the temps went back to 47 and 58. I ran the same backup with shrink and it worked fine.
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the one here in kalamazoo, mi, does.
Since you've seen it displayed, what do you think cause I think it's "Bitchin"!!! There a few things I don't like about it like at the native resolution some of the colors change to pastels. The most annoying one is pale green. I've gone into the options as well as the folder settings and can't make them change. A big plus that I discovered is that when the screensize called for by the program you're using comes on it's always native!!! By that I mean the max is 1860x1040. Anything smaller and the exact amount of "real" pixels are used to reproduce the "native resolution" of the moment! I watched the old Errol Flynn movie Robin Hood and at it's native resolution it was magnificent. I'm talking about a 60 year old movie. Film only!!! No tape!! That was both the curse and the beauty of Technicolor. It was a black and white process but the color was the best the industry had to offer until the advent of modern graphics. The Technicolor process was expensive as it used 3 times as much film. That was it's curse!
Tonight I'm going to watch "The Matrix"! It should be a trip. Hey, Wine, Woman, and a great movie!!!
Happy Computering,
theonejrs
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18. March 2006 @ 00:19 |
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If you're running above 38C idle, somethings wrong
no it isn't.
A CPU is safe idling up to about 52-53C, mine i believe idles at around 49. In heavy load it only goes up another 5C, but then again I have an older Athlon XP which doesn't use cool and quiet.
Theonejrs, I liked the use of technicolor, as a matter of fact I have a collection of the Tom & Jerry cartoon on my PC, and for its age it looks brilliant. Obviously animation isn't the best that the process could be used for, but the colour really is vivid and enlightening.
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18. March 2006 @ 20:03 |
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Have you looked at the bfg cards, they have better specs. and a way better warranty. yea they are a few dollars more but not that much.
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My 3.2 prescott not overclocked idles all day @ 32C. 1.5 hours of encoding video 49C. 450 watt P/S, stable voltages across the board.
If you're running above 38C idle, somethings wrong (assuming you're in a 22C room).
yes i belieave somthing is wrong with your mobo or software,,, unless you are running it in a freezer with the case open.....berrrr
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18. March 2006 @ 23:28 |
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Idle @ 32c sounds more like a Northwood not a Prescott.
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18. March 2006 @ 23:40 |
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Idle 32C sounds more like off if you ask me... :P
32ºC is a very low idle temperature for a prescott.
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This is the lowest Idle temp I have ever had with my 3.4 Northwood and lately it's more like 36-38C when my room temperature is around 26C.
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RebelRide,
I would be very suspicious of your temperature probes accuracy. These are not normal temps for any Prescott I know of. The motherboard temp should be higher than that!
Do you have this thing set up in the freezer? At idle at an ambient temp of 22C my MB idles at 34C and the CPU at 47C. According to the information I got from Intel, this is ice cold!
http://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-007999.htm
Scrool down and you will see all the P4s up to a 3.4. Check out your 3.2!
Intel tries to get sneaky, never giving actual CPU temps! They only give max case temps. Virtually all the P4s listed have a max case temp of 69.1C or above. If I had a case temp of 69.1C or above, Asusprobe would have already shut down the system. They also mention that 35C is considered normal ambient temperature which would be a very warm room. For my particular P4, 3E478-pin FC-PGA2 the max case temp is 69.1C with a max inlet temp of 38C. That's one very hot room as 38C is over 102F!
According to this information, there is something wrong with your temp probes as your temps are way too cold! The 3.2E (1 MB Cache) is the hottest running CPU on the list at 73C+. If you have the 3.2 (512 KB Cache), it still maxes out at 70C!
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