Originally posted by wetallica:

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I'm still unbanned.

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Originally posted by qwert99:

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I don't see how doing that connection test will ban you. It will just reveal if you are banned or not.

The point is that you can see if you are banned before installing the newest update that will disable your hard drive features.

If you don't have a hard drive or memory cards present, how could the update even download? On the newer consoles that have memory built in, it could be possible, though.

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Originally posted by pegggy:

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who hasnt been banned?????

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Originally posted by hurley131:

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Ive signed in every night to check to see if i get the dredded ban massage. I've even left it on for a few hours while doing some work. Like people have said we know the risks involved.

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Originally posted by liquidwtr:

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only backup games i have ripped myself, and always verify through abgx(level 3 check)

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Originally posted by johnny412:

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Somebody posted in another thread that he never logged onto live with a disk in the tray and hes still not banned. Does anybody else thats still not banned do it this way?

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Originally posted by funksoulb:

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Originally posted by liquidwtr:

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only backup games i have ripped myself, and always verify through abgx(level 3 check)

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You shouldn't use level 3 with your own backups. Even if the stealth check passes, it will still use the files in the database if verification fails, so in all cases, your backups are no better than the backups of a person who downloaded all of their games.

You should use level 2 with your own rips. Then it will only autofix them if the stealth check is uncertain or fails and verification fails. If the stealth check passes and verification fails, that's OK. It's only if you're downloading games that you need to use level 3, because you can't rely on the stealth check alone as you don't know the source of the rip. Obviously if you're ripping your own game, you do know the source of the rip.

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Originally posted by johnny412:

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Somebody posted in another thread that he never logged onto live with a disk in the tray and hes still not banned. Does anybody else thats still not banned do it this way?

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Originally posted by BIFF0:

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Originally posted by johnny412:

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Somebody posted in another thread that he never logged onto live with a disk in the tray and hes still not banned. Does anybody else thats still not banned do it this way?

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Yeah i've not been banned and I do this just cause I am extra paranoid at the moment. Haven't logged in for about two days though gonna wait till there's some answers why this ban is so effective.

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Originally posted by liquidwtr:

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the original tutorial i followed said to use level 3 regardless, so i didn't see much reason to not use it, also the database should have verified stealth files anyway otherwise it'd be pointless to have a verified database imo

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Originally posted by funksoulb:

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Originally posted by liquidwtr:

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the original tutorial i followed said to use level 3 regardless, so i didn't see much reason to not use it, also the database should have verified stealth files anyway otherwise it'd be pointless to have a verified database imo

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The original tutorial you read is wrong. The default settings of abgx360 are designed for those that rip their own games. If everyone had to change autofix to level 3, then level 3 would be the default setting. You only need to change it if you're downloading games.

By using level 3 you are saying that you trust the stealth info uploaded to the database by someone you've never met over the stealth info you have just ripped from your own originals. You have absolutely no reason to do that as long as you know how to rip games properly. If you take two copies of the same original and rip them, they might contain different stealth info. The DMIs might be different - that's a common one. Personal rips only need to pass the stealth check, not verification. If a personal rip fails the stealth check it's because you didn't rip it properly and then abgx360 will autofix it, but even then, it would still be safer to re-rip the game properly than use the stealth files from the abgx360 database.

X-Men Origins: Wolverine was uploaded to the database before the game was even out, so a lot of people verified it and played it. A few days later, it disappeared from the database only to be replaced with a different version. People that autofixed the game the first time then found that their game no longer verified as abgx360 was saying it needed to be autofixed again. UP, Red Faction: Guerilla and UFC Undisputed all had corrupt info in the database for a few days, so games were being autofixed with bad data. That was discovered and fixed and they posted on their site about it. This shows you that you should never trust someone else's rips over your own personal rips.

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