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The Official GT4 Thread
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samuels
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24. March 2005 @ 15:59 |
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why would i talk b@#$*$#t, what is the point of that what ive said is true no point lyin about stuff where the hell is that gonna get us XSFO4 [Quote]
i didn't say you was bull sh*****g,i said the theory that someone else came up with,this OTP/PTP buissness,is rubbish,it has nothing to do with this issue at all,i think iv'e proven that by copying it onto a dl disc,but unfortunately i need the original to be able to continue through the game,this to me means tthe OTP/PTP is not the issue here,it is more along the lines of DVD checks....one more point i would like to make in regards to this issue is,sure the HK silvers or HK pressed discs can copy this game,but they don't have these so called "special burners"they own the same dvd burners as any other joe blo and yet they can be copied onto these discs and read by the "modded" PS2
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SlayerGT
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24. March 2005 @ 16:32 |
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Hey samuels u gettin sick of repeatin urself about tha OTP/PTP thing yet? lmao but i agree with u
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poodude
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24. March 2005 @ 18:12 |
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Hasnt anyone considered backing up GT4 for a single layer dvd-r? Other dvd9 games such as xeno saga have been backed up to dvd5 by reading the data from both layers and down sampling movie and audio files until it fits the disc. pssplex does a good job of importing and exporting ps2 media files for down sampling.
yeah, I know you're retarded.
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samuels
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24. March 2005 @ 21:50 |
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Hey samuels u gettin sick of repeatin urself about tha OTP/PTP thing yet? lmao but i agree with u
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well i wouldn't have to repeat myself if people read posts from others as well as mine,they have come to the same conclusion.it's these "numbskulls that give me the hoobies,the ones that don't take the time to examine the file structures on the GT4 disc,can't accept advice from people that have looked into it,etc,etc...
so to keep you and others happy i won't say another word...hows that :)
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HKSDRFTR
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24. March 2005 @ 22:31 |
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im downloading GRAN TURISMO 4 USA DVD5 torrent, has anyone got this version WORKING BEFORE??? does it work or is it a nuke!??thnx
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HKSDRFTR
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24. March 2005 @ 22:32 |
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GRAN TURISMO 4 USA DVD5 2.01G is dere a possibility that it would work?? i think its a fake??
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Ikari_San
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25. March 2005 @ 03:27 |
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I order you all to buy the game bundled with the Logitech Driving Force wheel!
The wheel is so frickin' unbelievable, THIS GAME MUST BE PLAYED WITH THE LOGITECH WHEEL! Do you hear me? If you are playing a backed up version with the controller, YOU ARE MISSING OUT ON THE GAME, BIG TIME!
And since the bundled wheel + GT4 pack is such a good deal, you won't be paying much for the game anyway.
...uh, and be sure to set the force feedback to "simulation" mode in the options!
*runs off to immerse self in Driving Force® goodness*
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SlayerGT
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25. March 2005 @ 05:51 |
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@ samuels
I didnt mean it in a negative way, I was just harmlessly commenting on people not getting that it can't be a OTP/PTP issue, and on how many times you've had to repeat that it isn't to people not reading the rest of this thread.
But I appreciate what you a others like L-burna are doing here, i don't have the skills yet to get as technical as you guys have in cracking games like this, so just as everyone else is, i'm hoping we crack this soon.
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25. March 2005 @ 09:54 |
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Hes right its got bugger all to do with the OTP/PTP burning, i did a DL backup from the Jap original at the begining of January and it worked after i booted up the original then swapped discs!!
P4 1400mhz, P4 2800mhz, Packard Bell 1000mhz, IBM T23 Thinkpad, X-Box matrix, PS2 Messiah 1,Sony Ericsson K700i for crappy photos on the move!!!
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nickmo05
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25. March 2005 @ 13:38 |
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I play mines off of my hard drive and it works just fine. I dont understand. I use hdloaderlite and the same layout as I listed before and mines works. its exactly like the GT4 dvd5 torrent that has been mention. I would help others and give them the file directly but i have dial-up. but only if You have the official game
I really appreciate the help.
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Rickerman
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25. March 2005 @ 13:40 |
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I think that it could possibly be the OTP/PTP issue.
Samuels. Have you tried burning the first layer to a DVD-r and swapping this with your origional?
My guess is that this would produce the same results as your DL Backup.
I think that the origional is structured in a way so that when the PS2 checks the second layer, the laser doesn't need to move.
I did read the other thread about the 2 layers on 2 discs. They said it worked but had to swap a lot.
I think the first layer on HDD and 2nd layer on a DVD5 is a good idea. (Probably wont work though :'()
I think the only way this game will be backed up is by some genius downsampling the movies / audio and some other genius changing all the 2nd layer checks to the first layer.
Or if we can get blank DL media which can make a true 1:1 backup of the origional DVD. (Burned in PTP)
Rickerman
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nickmo05
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25. March 2005 @ 13:54 |
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If you do not have a hdd and hdloader then I dont know what to tell u but the way I did it works. also heres just another random site talking more on the subject.
http://www.fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=68471
Trust me mines works just fine and it plays like the original. if you have the jap version then it will not work with hdloader. that is all and anyone got any questions about this or my music then send me a pm
I really appreciate the help.
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samuels
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25. March 2005 @ 14:08 |
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I think that it could possibly be the OTP/PTP issue.
Samuels. Have you tried burning the first layer to a DVD-r and swapping this with your origional?
My guess is that this would produce the same results as your DL Backup.
I think that the origional is structured in a way so that when the PS2 checks the second layer, the laser doesn't need to move.
I did read the other thread about the 2 layers on 2 discs. They said it worked but had to swap a lot.
I think the first layer on HDD and 2nd layer on a DVD5 is a good idea. (Probably wont work though :'()
I think the only way this game will be backed up is by some genius downsampling the movies / audio and some other genius changing all the 2nd layer checks to the first layer.
Or if we can get blank DL media which can make a true 1:1 backup of the origional DVD. (Burned in PTP)
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no i haven't tried that :) because i know it won't work....we need to be looking @ the dvd checks,there is heaps of data that is not required in this game,for instance the epson folder,thats for the option of printing out your photos of your cars in photo gallery...that could go,once again i know i said i wouldn't say anymore on this issue,but i have to :) if it was OTP/PTP issued the PS2 wouldn't even load at all with OTP,from memory you are all talking OTP that the game is burnt on,sorry i just get sick of hearing it :),also you would get error /warning messages from your burner saying it can't burn in that formatt...and the other usual message you get is do you want to procceed ...yes/no
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ZippoGuy
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25. March 2005 @ 14:12 |
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hey nick, I used yer link and went to that site, they know even less there than we do here. How the heck could you possibly have learned anything from there? About the only piece of info i found there was the diff between OTP and PTP which we ALL know by now. No offense but i fail to believe that you have a working backup when nobody else does and that u learned how to make it from a site that has no info to offer. Got my hopes up for a second though. But only for a second.
Peace, Love, and Zippos
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nickmo05
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25. March 2005 @ 14:17 |
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this goes back to what someone else said before about reading ahead first cause that was just a site with more on the subject. I did state that as well so read everything before you comment about me aight.
BEFORE I LIST THE SITE AGAIN HERE IS SOME EXTRA INFO I JUST KEEP SEEING.
DVD9 games on DVD+r dl now playable, including GT4
- by Dv8 On Mar 14, 2005 - 5:00 AM
Up until now, it has been impossible to play DVD9 backups placed on dual-layer DVD+r media due to the different physical format of the data on the disc.. Pressed = PTP, DVD+r = OTP
However, "Team Toxic" has discovered a software hack which enables DVD9 games to load from DVD+r dl media.
This also means Gran Turismo 4 is also playable on DVD+r dl media for the first time, including all other DVD9 games.
The Toxic flash release for DMS4 coming up in the next few days will include DVD+r dl auto-patching to apply this software hack on the fly, making DMS4 the first modchip to fully support DVD+r dl media.
Following that will be a DVD+r dl image patcher which will apply the soft hack to any DVD9 image before you burn to dl, which will let you play the games using any modchip.. That's "Team Toxic's" gift to the scene.
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THE SITE i WAS TALKING ABOUT IS
HTTP://WWW.SKSAPPS.COM/INDEX.PHP
THATS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS GETTING THE KIT TO FLATTEN YOUR DVD9 AND PUT IT ON MY HDD AND IT WORKS AND I AM PLAYING IT NOW SO I DO KNOW WHAT IAM TALKING ABOUT. IAM SORRY IAM ON THE OFFENSIVE BUT INSTEAD OF ASSUMING THINGS ABOUT ME, NEXT TIME ASK FIRST ABOUT WHATS GOING ON, HOLLA.
I really appreciate the help.
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nickmo05
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25. March 2005 @ 14:19 |
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PS2HD.COM ALSO HAS A TUTORIAL THAT YOU WILL FIND ON HOW TO FLATTEN AND IT DOES WORK. GOTO GAME LIST OR SEARCH FOR GRAN TURISMO 4 AND IT WILL SAY INCOMPLETE BUT THERE IS A F NEXT TO IT THAT YOU CLICK ON FOR THE TUTORIAL. I HAVE NOTHING BUT GOOD NEWS ALL THE TIME OR TRY TO SO WHY WOULD SOMEONE WUESTION MY INTENTIONS WHEN IAM PLAYING IT AND THEIR NOT. THATS CRAZY
I really appreciate the help.
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nickmo05
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25. March 2005 @ 14:21 |
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someone just let me know if iam helping at all. cause if not i'll just stop trying to cause i feel like no even cares of what i say. if so i wont post, just trying to help.
I really appreciate the help.
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samuels
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25. March 2005 @ 14:22 |
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this goes back to what someone else said before about reading ahead first cause that was just a site with more on the subject. I did state that as well so read everything before you comment about me aight.
BEFORE I LIST THE SITE AGAIN HERE IS SOME EXTRA INFO I JUST KEEP SEEING.
DVD9 games on DVD+r dl now playable, including GT4
- by Dv8 On Mar 14, 2005 - 5:00 AM
Up until now, it has been impossible to play DVD9 backups placed on dual-layer DVD+r media due to the different physical format of the data on the disc.. Pressed = PTP, DVD+r = OTP
However, "Team Toxic" has discovered a software hack which enables DVD9 games to load from DVD+r dl media.
This also means Gran Turismo 4 is also playable on DVD+r dl media for the first time, including all other DVD9 games.
The Toxic flash release for DMS4 coming up in the next few days will include DVD+r dl auto-patching to apply this software hack on the fly, making DMS4 the first modchip to fully support DVD+r dl media.
Following that will be a DVD+r dl image patcher which will apply the soft hack to any DVD9 image before you burn to dl, which will let you play the games using any modchip.. That's "Team Toxic's" gift to the scene.
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v9 with DMS4 Pro
flashed w/ ToxicOS 0.2
THE SITE i WAS TALKING ABOUT IS
HTTP://WWW.SKSAPPS.COM/INDEX.PHP
THATS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS GETTING THE KIT TO FLATTEN YOUR DVD9 AND PUT IT ON MY HDD AND IT WORKS AND I AM PLAYING IT NOW SO I DO KNOW WHAT IAM TALKING ABOUT. IAM SORRY IAM ON THE OFFENSIVE BUT INSTEAD OF ASSUMING THINGS ABOUT ME, NEXT TIME ASK FIRST ABOUT WHATS GOING ON, HOLLA.[Quote]
that is old news mate...notice toxic haven't bought it out yet,,,they may have jumped the gun on this one...i have been talking to dv8 and he is of the opinion also that it's the dvd checks and not the OTP/PTP issue.
wait another week or two and sonix or neness will have it cracked,or others...too many top programmers to name
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nickmo05
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25. March 2005 @ 14:25 |
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iiam playing mines on my hdd so if anyone has a hdd and wants to play this then holla at me cause iam only helping because i was helped by others plenty of times from this site. my method for the hdd works so if no one wants to use this way then cool.
I really appreciate the help.
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samuels
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25. March 2005 @ 14:29 |
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if i had a hdd i'd test it :) but i don't...so therefore can't comment
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nickmo05
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25. March 2005 @ 14:29 |
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I really appreciate the help.
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samuels
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25. March 2005 @ 14:34 |
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don't have DMS,mines a duo 2 "mod".don't think they are compatible are they?
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nickmo05
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25. March 2005 @ 14:41 |
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iam not sure if they are compatible cause iam using one of the most oldest mods to date, an sbox (lol) but i have been able to play everything from backups to every other old system except for n64
I really appreciate the help.
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samuels
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25. March 2005 @ 14:52 |
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it says you need a hdd disc...which i don't have,i don't have anything hdd loder or other related stuff just using "mod"
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nickmo05
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25. March 2005 @ 15:05 |
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there is a free hsloader available for download on the net and if ya cant find it then holla at me
I really appreciate the help.
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