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Spencer80
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19. May 2005 @ 01:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
QUICK SUMMARY OF THIS THREAD AND THE OFFICIAL GT4 THREAD
(To stop u having to trawl through this and the official thread for the answers).

1)CAN GT4 BE COPIED ONTO A DVD9?

YES! DO THE FOLLOWING:

1) get DVD Decrypter, get toxics patch
2) make an iso of the game using DVD Decrypter (iso -> read mode)
3) patch the iso with toxics patcher
(4) change the book type to dvd-rom. this may not be necessary as people have reported success with the book type set to DVD+R DL, but to do it, right click on your dvd writer in DVD Decrypter and select 'Change Book Type', click the tab for the manufacturer of your writer, under 'Change For' select 'For DVD+R DL media' and under 'New Setting' select 'DVD-ROM' then click ok)
5) burn the image to disk (iso -> write mode)

that's it! (wasn't so hard now was it?)

2)WHERE DO I GET TOXICS PATCH?

http://www.ps2hd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1407

YOU WILL HAVE TO SET UP AN ACCOUNT TO ACCESS IT BUT ITS TOTALLY FREE!

3)ANY HINTS AND TIPS ON COPYING GT4?

YES! HERE YOU GO:

Media doesn't seem to be too important. Success has been reported with a variety of all media, including anything with the Ritek dye, Datasafe, Traxdata, Verbatim etc. The prefered media seems to be Traxdata or Verbatim though.
Updating the firmware of your dvd writer might help. there's a function in DVD Decrypter that finds up to date firmware for you, or visit the manufacturers website.
Make sure the iso DVD Decrypter creates is around 5gb in size. if its around 3gb, it didn't copy both layers. by default settings and with an original game, you shouldn't have this problem.
It should be obvious, but some people have asked anyway, that you need to patch the iso file, NOT the mds file that decrypter makes (well duh, as the patcher won't successfully patch the mds anyway)
Make sure the patcher says patching is successful, and make sure the iso files last modified date is the minute you applied the patch (just in case its read only or something)
Selecting the mds or iso file to burn doesn't make a difference, except decrypter shouts at you if you select the iso, and then selects the mds for you (its just picky :P)
Burn at a slow speed (2.4x worked fine for me, you might want to do 1x to be on the safe side), and maybe do a test burn first.
This works for ALL versions of the game, the patch is applied to only one file, which is the same regardless of what version of the game you have.
At present it appears a DL copy does NOT work on Swap Magic disks, most likely due to the large TOC. If someone has an original game with a larger TOC that GT4, try it. Logically it should work, but then again who knows...
This should work with ALL modchips. It has been reported to work with chips that do not even officially state they support dual layer media (and i can vouch for this - it works on my Magic 3.1, and if it works with that it will work with anything!)
If it doesn't work, try recalibrating your laser (that's what my PS2 required). If your PS2 clicks or whirrs when first trying to read the disk, this may be your problem as it was mine.

4)WILL THE DVD9 VERSION WORK ON SWAP MAGIC?
NO. IM AFRAID SWAP MAGIC CANNOT READ DUAL LAYER DVDS!

5)BUGGER! OK IS THERE A WAY TO GET IT ON A DVD5 THEN?
ERR....NOT REALLY. AT THE MOMENT THERE APPEARS TO BE NO WAY OF GETTING IT ON A DVD5. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CLOSE ATTEMPTS WHICH YOU MAY WANT TO TRY OR EXPAND ON:

Alright peeps, for whatever reason I've made a success backed up with DVD Decrypter using a FUJI DVD+R 4.7GB (Manufacture ID: YUDEN000 T02, MADE IN JAPAN) by following the above steps, except I "didn't" do step #4 only. Yes...it's TRUE and I am "NOT" bullshiting anyone period. I was playing it for like 1 hr, still "NO FREEZE" yet. I'll keep my fingers cross for now. Anyways, my first backed up with the VERBATIM 2.4 DVD+R DL was successfully completed by following the above instructions. However, my SWAP MAGIC 3.6 PLUS won't boot it because it's a DL media. Therefore, I come up with this crazy method to just back it up on a DVD5 just to try and see what's the result. After DVD Decrypter "READ", it went to my c:\GranTourismo4.ISO - I then put my Fuji DVD+R in my Sony 710a BYX4 and click "WRITE" in DVD Decrypter, it pop up a window saying "there is not enough space, do you want to continue/write?", I just click "YES" and it did it. However, I noticed it only went up to 95% or something of writing and then Decrypter just finalized the disc, instead of going all the way to 100%. I thought it was a "coaster" at first, but decided to give my SWAP MAGIC 3.6 PLUS a shot, and boy......was I surprised, it boot up right away. Thank GOD....!!!!

MANY PEOPLE HAVE TRIED THE ABOVE AND SAID IT DOESNT WORK.

I dont know if this means much but I was a little inspired by this dvd5 thing.. I had three files in my gt4 backup folder: .mds, I00, I01. the mds was 9kb the .I00 file was 4.2g and the I01 file was 1.3g. I have already backed up my gt4 on verbatim dvd+r dl and all works perfectly.

I decided to rename the I00 file as this was obviously the biggest and I thought the guts of the game to ".MDS" I then opened decrypter and used the renamed I00 file (now .MDS) as the source file. Now remember my original backup has already been patched (I patched the .mds when I burnt the dvd+r dl so I tried to patch the new .mds and it said failed (thus meaning it's already patched). I then burnt the new .mds on a dvd 5 at 1X .

Now heres the interesting part I put it in the PS2 and it booted right up to the accessing the memory card (disc in corner icon) and hung (forever, no disc noise I knew this was going to happen) I thought well it's screwed, but I then thought hell might put the dvd+r dl back in (backup). It started as normal with the opening movie right up to the game access screen (all the races, home, buy cars) i then put the dvd5 back in and have been playing ever since on the dvd5. I know that I have to use the dvd9 to boot but I can play the dvd5 no worries with medium (quite bearable) loading times and I have so far had no problems with playing any of the races I have accessed. I know some might think it foolish to be swapping discs (once only) but I dont intend to play it like this, but what is interesting is it will play from the dvd5. I am using an imation dvd-r 4.7g disc (it's all I have left.) So my next questions is whats missing, what stops it loading when all the info is there (well nearly all of it). When it's loading it starts just like the dvd9 (toxic logo and all) but it hangs at the memory card load (it does actually load the memory card info). I cant remember if this was covered in the original thread "Official gt4" but I can play the dvd5 without swapping. I have not have to put the dvd9 back in yet!!! I have only played about three races (all the nissan gtr cups are nearly mine) on the dvd5 plus I raced a couple of beginner races to test it out but no lock ups yet.. Does this mean (maybe) if you have the original game and you back it up, then patch it with the toxic patch and burn it on the dvd5 that you will only ever have to use your original as a boot disc??? Some might say "silly" but what if you dont have a dual layer burner, this could be a solution. Could it work with swap magic!!!

Some body kill me if this has been covered and sorry for the waste of space if so.


HOPE THATS HELPED AND SAVED YOU A HELL OF A LOT OF TIME!

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 19. May 2005 @ 01:17

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samuels
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19. May 2005 @ 01:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
but some people have asked anyway, that you need to patch the iso file, NOT the mds file that decrypter makes [Quote]

patching the MDS file is preffered,but not essential as it will patch either one,(MDS. ISO)if you have your settings correct on decrypter,and you try to burn the iso a pop up message tells you that you should have selected the MDS file "i'll do it for you this time" don't do it again....something to that effect.
sorry for the confusion but it DOES NOT matter which one you patch....MDS. or ISO
Mikdog
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19. May 2005 @ 02:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok ok. So a dual-layer DVD9 works. We've heard over and over. What we want help with now is those of us with the capacity to burn single-layer dvd's - DVD5.

THAT would sort this thing out finally.

I like to eat a piece of cheese...sometimes
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19. May 2005 @ 02:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ specc

nobody cares about your computer dude :-)
sed8ed
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19. May 2005 @ 03:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ everyone,

In order for this thread to continue I think we really have to look at what we need to accomplish a dvd5 rip of this game. What can we draw on that was already covered in the official gt4 thread.

I know that some of you may have read my experiment with the dvd 5 inspiration. Is there anything that we can do to make it load to the opening movie. I am not very game code, vol extractor savvy but some of you are!!! I now that some people are experimenting already and that we are waiting for the results.

Can anyone elaborate on what they think we might be able to do in theory at least as I am willing to give/learn whatever I can. Some might say "why the dvd5" I think it obvious, for one the media is cheap, a lot of people have said the actual game (in size) is burnable to dvd5 but of course it hasnt worked. What is it thats on the dvd9 that loads the initial start, the dvd5 can play simulation mode with no problems as I have been testing it for a week now and all is good (arcade does not play). Have we reached our interlectual limits, have we done all that we can. I for one would like to say "never" but I am running out of knowledge. I would be the first to admit that I really dont know what I am doing but hell I am having fun making coasters. The sheer thril of it maybe booting keeps me going.
Spencer80
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19. May 2005 @ 04:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm going to bloody crack this at the weekend! The tools are out there its just knowing how to use them and what on. I've got 50 dvd5s to waste so bring it on! I'll give you an update on Sunday as to how well it went
Mikdog
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19. May 2005 @ 05:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nice! It can be done, I KNOW it! Good luck, looking forward to your findings on Sunday.

GT4...DVD5...Possible, but HOW?! Painful.

I like to eat a piece of cheese...sometimes
speccyfan
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19. May 2005 @ 06:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Duvelken,
i know mate(hence the sarky remark at the end),just trying to educate pc newbies :)
dvd5-
the toxic patch will remove the otp check/s that reside in the .img file which is why the dvd9 copy will work once patched as the ps2 will otherwise look for ptp and shut down if not found.
to get on a dvd5,you'll have to extract the .vol file from the first layer,the .vol 1 file(which is the rest of the .vol file as they are one)from the second layer,join them,extraxt the one joint .vol file(nobody yet has a prog for this to my knowledge)erase or better downsize the video files and get rid of any crap you don't need,rebuild the .vol file,then you'll have to remove the dvd9 check (not with toxic's patch or it'll still have to be a dvd9),i'd use toolboy's patch as,if it works with a hdd,then it must remove the dvd9(unless it emulates dvd9 on the hdd but thats a whole other nightmare),but one thing is certain,unless a .vol file extractor is found,this cannot and will not be done.i'll keep looking and if someone finds an extractor,i'm pretty sure the rest of the rip will be much easier.Oh yes i forgot,i think there's a .vol file size check in the core as well so that'll have to be removed as well!
Moufa-man
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19. May 2005 @ 08:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
YES!!!
That's the spirit. We can make it happen. It just requires an awfully painful procedure...
Curry_
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19. May 2005 @ 09:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello! i have a problem! I got image of tha Game:
s-gt4, 5,27 GB (bajtów: 5 660 540 928)
I got the DVD-DL burner:
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S BS0C (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL
and I got DL Verbatim disc!
I got newest DVD Decrypter and when i try to burn the image it says:

I/O Error!

Device:[0;0;0]Lite-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S BS0C (F:)(ATA)

ScsiStatus: 0x02
Interpretation: Check Condition

CDB: BF 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 0C 00 00
Interpretation: Send DVD Structure - DVD+R DL Boundary Information

Sense Area: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05 00 00 00 00
Interpretation: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format


So I click Cancel and again:

I/O Error!

Device:[0:0:0]Lite-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S BS0C (F:)(ATA)

ScsiStatus: 0x02
Interpretation: Check Condition

CDB: 2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00
Interpretation: Write (10) - Sectors: 0 - 31

Sense Area: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05 00 00 00 00
Interpretation: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format


And i click Cancel again and it close! WTF?! I have no idea what is going on! can somebody tell me what I am doing wrong?! Please for quick answear! PLEASE!!!!
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Can anyone elaborate on what they think we might be able to do in theory at least as I am willing to give/learn whatever I can. Some might say "why the dvd5" I think it obvious, for one the media is cheap, a lot of people have said the actual game (in size) is burnable to dvd5 but of course it hasnt worked. What is it thats on the dvd9 that loads the initial start, the dvd5 can play simulation mode with no problems as I have been testing it for a week now and all is good (arcade does not play). Have we reached our interlectual limits, have we done all that we can. I for one would like to say "never" but I am running out of knowledge. I would be the first to admit that I really dont know what I am doing but hell I am having fun making coasters. The sheer thril of it maybe booting keeps me going. [Quote]

i claim not to be an expert either,but my opinion is to remove unwanted/uneeded files,or at least reducing the size of the movies,i remember a few years ago in a tutorial on PS2 game ripping,deleting files and replacing them with dummy files,but listening to the more experienced rippers here and abroad,that seems to be a problem with this game....finding them is one thing,i belive this game will be cracked one day,but if it was crackable the great sonix would of had it done by now(he's one of the best rippers out there)and he like many others doesn't give up easy.so if there is a tool out there sonix would of been onto it....
so yeah thats my opinion...your going to need hex editor...a.VOL extractor and rebuilder,and quite possibly several other tools.to be honest i gave up when toxic bought the d/layered patch out,because after all a dual layered burner is very cheap nowadays :),and the blank media is getting cheaper.but if i think of something i will still try it out or ask some one more experienced if it's feasable
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Hello! i have a problem! I got image of tha Game:
s-gt4, 5,27 GB (bajtów: 5 660 540 928)
I got the DVD-DL burner:
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S BS0C (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL
and I got DL Verbatim disc!
I got newest DVD Decrypter and when i try to burn the image it says:

I/O Error!

Device:[0;0;0]Lite-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S BS0C (F:)(ATA)

ScsiStatus: 0x02
Interpretation: Check Condition

CDB: BF 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 0C 00 00
Interpretation: Send DVD Structure - DVD+R DL Boundary Information

Sense Area: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05 00 00 00 00
Interpretation: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format


So I click Cancel and again:

I/O Error!

Device:[0:0:0]Lite-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S BS0C (F:)(ATA)

ScsiStatus: 0x02
Interpretation: Check Condition

CDB: 2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00
Interpretation: Write (10) - Sectors: 0 - 31

Sense Area: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05 00 00 00 00
Interpretation: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format


And i click Cancel again and it close! WTF?! I have no idea what is going on! can somebody tell me what I am doing wrong?! Please for quick answear! PLEASE!!!! [Quote]

try resetting programmes settings back to the default settings,looking at what you have displayed,tells me that the disc is not DVD-DL or it's not recognising your drive properely..you are putting in a d/l disc?? also try the latest firmware on your burner...sorry thats all i can suggest
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19. May 2005 @ 13:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
?

I like to eat a piece of cheese...sometimes
Curry_
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19. May 2005 @ 14:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes! DVD DL for sure!

Platinum Double Layer
Speed 2.4x 8.5GB
"Recordable DOUBLE LAYER DVD for Professionals" :) buehehe

I've tried to reset program settings to deafult and still not working!

I try to upgrade firmware. maybe thats help:)
sed8ed
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19. May 2005 @ 14:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Man, I can feel the love in this thread already. GO dvd5 go!!!
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19. May 2005 @ 14:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I try to upgrade firmware. maybe thats help:) [Quote]
i have the SOHW 1633S burner,but mine was flashed from a 1213S and the firmware on that 1633S is BS41 from rpc1.org,it's a cross patch,relatively up to date from these guys,no problems with mine,burn't GT4 no problems with decrypter
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19. May 2005 @ 14:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@simpsim1,
sorry my mistake.
Wonder why the is a difference between the two burns?
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Strange one this Crowy. I tried doing a swap thing with layer-0 and layer-1 on seperate discs. My PS2 doesn't let you press eject (magic chip grrrrr!) but before going onto the usual loading screen where it freezes, I watched half the opening FMV sequence... and that's all I got. So how is it that i got the full FMV with the "Layer and a half" Disk? Interesting eh?

I found a good command line utility to rip the .pss movie files. Its called rippss and its available from http://sksapps.com/index.php?page=mis.html

As for getting the rest of the stuff out I'm at a bit of a stop right now. Hopefully my info will help someone else even if I draw a blank. I think I might be getting in a little over my head here!

My opinions come with no warranty whatsoever, but are totally open-source, so you can reverse engineer or decompile them as you see fit. All other rights reserved.

"Freedom" in the west consists of: Freedom of speech, freedom of opinion and freedom of movement. So why is it then, that people want to know what youre saying, what you think of them and where you are going?
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@Curry_,
1: Check to make sure the disc is clean and not scratched.
2: Have you restarted your computer since installing DVD Decrypter?
3: Close all running applications in the background(anti-virus firewall etc.)
4: Is your drive on the same cable as the hard drive (1st ide)or on the second ide?If it is jumpered with another drive try connecting it to second ide.
5: Try burning with a dvd/rw (dvd decrypter will say there isn't enough space do you want to continue)If it burns to around 80%(from memory!)chances are you may have a defective disc.(It happens:(
I recall getting a similar message with some "bargain" dvd-r discs,pack of ten for $3.30 AUS,managed to burn 2 ok.
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@simpsim1,
I tried burning layer 0 on a dvd5 but it wouldn't boot at all.
Burn't as much of full iso as I could onto dvd5(around 80% from memory)
it booted and I was able to load memory card info then after that it crashed.
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@Crowy. Was that with patch applied? My Layer-0 only disk got past the memory card and through the FMV before crashing at the loading screen. So obviously the patch has some bearing on the DVD-5 also.

My Layer-and-a-half disk was made using HJSplit setting it to split the iso at 4450 Mb (That's Mb selected in the drop down list) and renaming the resulting .001 file back to .iso.

I'm also wondering if I make up a slide card and try a swap with layer-1 disk if that might work. Probably won't but no harm in trying eh?

My opinions come with no warranty whatsoever, but are totally open-source, so you can reverse engineer or decompile them as you see fit. All other rights reserved.

"Freedom" in the west consists of: Freedom of speech, freedom of opinion and freedom of movement. So why is it then, that people want to know what youre saying, what you think of them and where you are going?
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@simpsim1,
Yes that was with the patch applied.
Give the swap idea a try nothing to lose.
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Just a little addendum to a previous post of mine, the link for RipPSS is http://www.btinternet.com/~ps2rippininfo/tools/rippss.zip and not sksapps.com as I stated before. Sorry about that.

Sksapps.com is however a good resource for PS2 resources and the toxic patch is available there too. No need to sign up for that one!!!

My opinions come with no warranty whatsoever, but are totally open-source, so you can reverse engineer or decompile them as you see fit. All other rights reserved.

"Freedom" in the west consists of: Freedom of speech, freedom of opinion and freedom of movement. So why is it then, that people want to know what youre saying, what you think of them and where you are going?
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has anyone tried to use sonix's console media patcher to get it onto dvd5? i looked at the program and it says dvd9 to dvd5. and its made for ps2 games.
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Anyone wanting some of those hard to get programs look here:)
http://www.ps2rippininfo.btinternet.co.uk/tools.htm

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