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Newbies pls see this - cheapy media is BAD.....
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31. July 2005 @ 22:26 |
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@abcinet - erm thanks for that, great post, but erm, what's it got to do with cheapy media ?
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abcinet
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1. August 2005 @ 08:18 |
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Matt 72 requested information and recommendations on a new system in his post; hence the @Matt 72.
M.R.
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Ethrieltd
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18. August 2005 @ 10:46 |
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Hey there, looking for some info on my media (as google seems to split opinions)
Discs printed as:-
Datawrite (Grey) 8X
DvdIdentifier gives media info as:-
Prodisc Technology Inc
ProdiscF01
Burner used is:-
Lite-On DVDRW SOHW-1673S (FW JS02)
Having used over 150 of these discs, all purchased in batches of 50 at different times at the same independent store, i have only gotten 3 coasters. Only one of which was down to the media (eemed like the dye ran) the other 2 were my own fault stupidly pressing keys when burning.
Most of these discs were burned at 8X (yeah, im impatient...so) and have no playback problems in several machines (PC DVD and standalone, including some name branded players such as Sony & Denon)
My Machine specs are:-
Asus A7N8X-X
Athlon 2500
512MB (PC3200)
Maxtor Diamondmax 10 (80G) (Primary)
Samsung spinpoint 120 (120G) (Secondary)
Lite-On DVDRW SOHW-1673S (Primary)
Lite-On DVDRW SOHW-1673S (Secondary)
Cmedia 18738/3CDX
Aopen GF4000 8X AGP (TV OUT)
Tevion TV Capture TV7134
Using a mixture of DvdShrink, DivX to DVD, Etc for creating the files for burning and Nero 6.6.13 for the actual burning. This included copying a DVD using Nero (on the fly) with no problems)
so I seem to be breaking all the rules and still not having a problem.
I did a test by burning as much to one of these discs as i could (made a bunch of 5mg files and put them all on the disc till it was over capacity and took a few off one by one till they "just" fit and burned it at 8X then i left the disc in the sun, out of a sleeve etc and generally treated it badly. (not gonna do this with my rips but for test purposes..ok) After a week of the disc being left in these conditions i then compared the files on the disc to the ones still on my PC. There was no change in them, they transferred back to my PC no trouble at all.
So, I seem to only have positive stories about this media (which CDMedia World Classes as second rate media, about 85-95% success) and yet have heard people say that prodisc media is terrible and should never be used!
How much stock am I to hold in other peoples stories and how much in my own experience?
Any Input (apart of course from folks calling me foolish for my 8X burning practices and 512MB of RAM, yes I know its "not enough" but again I never have a problem with that and NO my buffers dont run like madness all in all my burn processes are pretty damn stable even if I`m surfing or listening to mp3`s as well) would be appreciated just as a matter of interest.
(Am I the exception that proves the rule?)
EthrielTD
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forkndave
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18. August 2005 @ 11:47 |
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I've had pretty good luch with Prodisc in the past. I've used some Fuji printables that were Prodisc F01. As long as I stick to the 8X -R Prodisc I've had fair results. The +R are crap, at least in my burners. I found some 16X -Rs that didn't seem to be so good either. They were Prodisc F02. They work OK if they are burned at 4X or 6X but why pay extra for 16X to burn them at 4X. Most of my Prodisc have coded as MCC 02RG20, the same as 8X -R Verbatim. Although they code the same they don't seem to be the same quality as the Verbatims. I usually don't get as good a Kprobe scan with them as the Verbatims. But for the price they are OK, I guess. What I've really had bad luck with lately is some Ritek G05 8X -R. If I burn them any faster than 4X or 6X at the max, I get rings and splotches on the disc and they usually won't play without locking up. Apparently, the higher heat of the laser at 8X melts the dye. I have 4 different burners, all different brands, so I don't think it's a burner problem. This happens with all of them. I beleive that quality control has just gone to shit. I've been using some 16X -/+R Verbatims that I get at Sam's Club for a decent price that I can burn at full speed if I want to, although I generally stick to 12X. They have + & - for the same price. I can't decide which one I like the best. Each has their advantages.
Dave
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6. September 2005 @ 03:11 |
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6. September 2005 @ 03:35 |
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hehe...seems that the "dolphin guy" from canada is pretty well versed on Taiyo Yuden...do you see a certain similarity between him and i, creaky? LOL
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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6. September 2005 @ 03:42 |
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not yet, i'm still only on page 5 :)
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6. September 2005 @ 04:04 |
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i believe he's on page 14...but, we are not "close" :) blood is thicker than water, so i can't deny the fact of kinship. hehe
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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9. October 2005 @ 11:06 |
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couldn't re-backup Monsters Inc today. watched it this morning and it's on a Bulkpaq Orange disc. played thru perfectly but took me a while to back it up to a new-fangled Verbatim-TY (TYG02) disc. And lo and behold - another Loch Ness of scans -
Did a scan of the resultant Verb copy and it was fantastic as expected.. (ps did that burn on my brand new Lite-On 1693S at 4x)
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9. October 2005 @ 14:16 |
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LOL, the PI graph is quite dark creaky~ hahaha...i don't think i see even a speck of white to it~ and with the PIF graph, looks like Loch Ness is coming out of the water in the beginning and slowly going back into the water towards the end~ :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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