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26. September 2004 @ 10:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
StinHambo.

A member could be made to think you have a vested interest In Con*ex or Sellers who buy from them.

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Really Dave? That's nice.
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I think that anyone who has a link attached to their posts that's used for personal economic gain should have them removed. Its simple and not directly threatening to anyone.

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I am in 100% agreement with brobear AND sophocles. No one else is allowed to put their business in their signature or even another forum they are in.

Referring to a link for informative purposes is a totally different situation.

You want to advertise? Pay for it like everyone else!


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26. September 2004 @ 14:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm personally dealing with the issue of advertising so let's all carry on.



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I'm personally dealing with the issue of advertising so let's all carry on.
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I was never a part of the original debate but I think that everyone here has peacefully moved on.


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I was never a part of the original debate but I think that everyone here has peacefully moved on.
I certainly hope so :)



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So Nephilm dont say me to drop it
Drop it. This is your last warning.



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My, we've gone a whole page without talking about the subject matter!!! Anyway, to steer us back on course one of my mates used Bulkpaq media without any prpblems...



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Using questionable media is at best a "crapshoot," the quality is just too inconsistent. Even if one does manage to record them without a problem then you have to face the longevity factor. Pay now or pay big-time later!

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Some of the new Bulkpaq X8 DVD-R are made by Fuji. the shame is the only way you can tell the difference between them is the Fuji disk has Version 2 on the disk the one that does not have this is made by Pro-Disk and is a Budget disk
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Unfortunately it's like that with a lot of media suppliers. They might have a batch made by RICOH in one batch and then on another by CMC and the only way you can tell is to ID them. The problem is they're sitting on a store shelf and your PC is at home. Hmm! Perhaps if I brought my Laptop.

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Sophocles,
Even then the "goon" squad would be after you for shoplifting or tampering with merchandise. There appears to be no solution other than the brands putting manufacturer data on the packaging and we all know how likely that is to happen. Sort of a dubious situation at best.

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Since a lot of no name manufacturers are in Taiwan, looking for Taiwan on the package is a quality indicator. Even the best Japanese brands that out source to Taiwan suffer a lowering of quality without the corresponding drop in price.

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Even the best Japanese brands that out source to Taiwan suffer a lowering of quality
Hence the reason I've had such great success with RICOHJPN where the JPN stands for Japan.

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Even Japanese made media can be iffy. I tried some of the new Unifino media that's made in Japan and had slight artifacting problems despite them being burned using the same hardware/software/methods that give me perfect results with RiDATA.

Here's the media code:


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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:UTJR001001]
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Disc Type : [DVD-R]
Manufacturer ID : [UTJR001001]
Manufacturer Name : [Unitech Japan Inc.]
Disc Application Code : [Unrestricted Use : Consumer Purpose]
Recording Speeds : [1x , 2x , 4x] (8x Cannot Be Detected)
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4,489.3MB = 4.38GB (4.71GB)]
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[DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com]
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Of course it could be due to the fact that the firmware for my 708A may not be optimized for it but I'm still underwhelmed with Unifino.



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I'm sure the Japanese can make some bad media as well as anyone. I should have been more specific in my statement. I was referring to the so called quality companies that out source as well as manufacture. Seems they all do it some time or other. The poor quality manufacturers don't need to send the job to Taiwan; they're already making poor media on their own. ;)

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So true, so true......



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Tsk again. Some of the RICOHJPN media is made by Ritek.


And that's a negative how? It's more like some of the Ritek (Ridata) are made by RICOHJPN.

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If it is RICOHJPN as far as I know its made in Japan and not out sourced. I just burned over a 100 RICOHJPN/RIDATA without a single coaster. If you read back you'll see that I made no claims to anything.

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jase,
I bow to your superior knowledge on the subject of media. But, some Ritek are made by Ricohjpn not the other way around. Sophocles just added that as well. http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm


Glad to see you allow the Japanese can make at least some bad media. I haven't seen any statistics on the Japanese superiority. I was only stating they aren't infallible. You seem to know more so maybe you can enlighten us. Statistically, how superior are the Japanese to the other media manufacturers?

Nephilim said his burner might not be calibrated for Unifino, but still he was not impressed. Neither would I be. Why should a person have to optimize a drive for a minor disc maker? Most media seem to be compatible for the majority of burners. So what's the point? Unifino looses points in my book for not being compatible. By the way a 708A is a Plextor in case you didn't catch it when Nephilim posted it. So he was using a quality burner. In fact it is one of the ones you mention.

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That's interesting because I have Ridata (Ritek) right here made by RICOHJPN whether in Taiwan or Japan and they're excellent which are the only claims that I've made.

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