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bratcher
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17. October 2007 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Joshewah:
I still find MIJ Fujis at Besy Buy which code out as Taiyo Yuden. Its usually the 50 packs. The 30 packs are MIT.
And what does each 50 pack cost you?
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17. October 2007 @ 22:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Last time I bought them they were on sale for $7 per pack so I stocked up. Not sure what the regular retail cost is, probably the same as the Best Buy online price.
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18. October 2007 @ 09:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Joshewah:
Last time I bought them they were on sale for $7 per pack so I stocked up. Not sure what the regular retail cost is, probably the same as the Best Buy online price.
$7 was a great price & is what I paid for each Maxell 50 pack a few weeks ago at Office Depot.
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21. October 2007 @ 22:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks everyone for the feedback on the TY's much appreciated
@Bratcher I was lucky enough to get some ceramic-coated (that's the word I was told) coated TY cd-r's so I don't have your problem but I have heard of the metallic-thin-coating issues
cheers everyone for the opinions and knowledge
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22. October 2007 @ 01:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sorrow93:
thanks everyone for the feedback on the TY's much appreciated
@Bratcher I was lucky enough to get some ceramic-coated (that's the word I was told) coated TY cd-r's so I don't have your problem but I have heard of the metallic-thin-coating issues
cheers everyone for the opinions and knowledge
The thin coating on TY CDR's isn't really a problem for me. I'm used to it.....
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23. October 2007 @ 22:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had something running through my mind and will pass it by the experts - you know how cd-r's have the permanent marker issue with the possible texta ink eating through to the write surface I was told this was not the same with dvd-r+rw media - my theory why can't the manufacturers of cd-r apply the same process with a protective barrier for silly people like me who years ago wrote with big fat Artline ink?
and those discs did fail on me
anyway, just thought I'd throw this up for discussion because the afterdawn members have amazing manufacturing/disc knowledge
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24. October 2007 @ 16:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sorrow93:
I had something running through my mind and will pass it by the experts - you know how cd-r's have the permanent marker issue with the possible texta ink eating through to the write surface I was told this was not the same with dvd-r+rw media - my theory why can't the manufacturers of cd-r apply the same process with a protective barrier for silly people like me who years ago wrote with big fat Artline ink?
and those discs did fail on me
anyway, just thought I'd throw this up for discussion because the afterdawn members have amazing manufacturing/disc knowledge
DVDs are built differently.

The recording layer of a CD is is on the surface of the disc at the top. There is very little protection other than thin coats of paint, enamels, etc.

DVDs, on the other hand, have their recording layer at the center of the disc sandwiched between two polycarbonate layers. so not only is the bottom protecting the recording layer but so is the top. The reason you can use the markers on DVDs is because if they eat through the paint on the top of a DVD its not going to eat through a layer of polycarbonate plastic.

Next time you burn a bad DVD or have a scrap dvd, bend it in half a few time until you see a split in the center of the disc and you can peel the top polycarb layer from the bottom and see fragments the recording layer on in the inside of both layers.

The reason CDs and DVDs differ like this is because of the width of laser that reads the pits and lands. a DVD (single layer) has over 6 times the amount of storage that a CD has so its pits and lands must be 6 times smaller than the pits and lands of a CD to fit on a disc of the same diameter. With smaller pits and lands the lasers width must slim down to accurately read the DVD. With a thinner laser and smaller pits and lands the recording layer needs to be shallower in the disc for the laser to read accurately, so rather than having the recording layer at the top (like a CD) the recording layer is at the center.

With the age of blue lasers (Blu-Ray and HD-DVD) the pits and lands are much smaller the laser is much thinner and the recording layer is very close to lower surface of the disc. So rather than worrying about markers on our blank Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs we'll need to worry about not scratching the lower surface, cause you can kiss your Disc Doctor good bye with these formats.

I hope that helped to explain things to ya. :D

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25. October 2007 @ 22:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Joshewah
my last reply didn't go through excuse the same message - thankyou for the explaining of the dvd/cd-r layer process
you explained it so well I understand it I'm sure you could go into more tech detail so thanks for keeping it simple
learn something new every afterdawn day, cheers
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26. October 2007 @ 00:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
. . . and KMart will have spindles of 100 Sony CD-R for $14 from Oct 28 - Nov 3

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@sorrow93
Hey, no prob. Thats what we're here for.

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26. October 2007 @ 02:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by catfreak:
. . . and KMart will have spindles of 100 Sony CD-R for $14 from Oct 28 - Nov 3
Yes but there is no KMART in my area so I'm burning twenty 50 packs of Maxell & sixteen 50 packs of Imation (all CDR's) that I got from Office Depot about 2 weeks apart for $7 each. It'll last awhile....
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26. October 2007 @ 10:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bratcher..Nice thing about the Net..U can have everything Delivered to your home,really simplifies
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26. October 2007 @ 13:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
. . . of course when you go to OD, you can recycle old printer cartridges and save $ on your discs . .

bratcher, are you having success with the Imations? I haven't used them in years because of a bad experience with them eight years or so ago. . .

I did stock up on the Maxells when they were $7 ($6.99) but I like the Sony media because quite often I make a DVD and 'tag-a-long' CD and it just looks better when they are both the same brand. I have no use for printing or LightScribing them as all I write on them is a three digit number

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26. October 2007 @ 15:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by rick5446:
bratcher..Nice thing about the Net..U can have everything Delivered to your home,really simplifies
Yep. I've done it several times with both Meritline & Supermadiastore. Got the 4x Verb white inkjet printables (DVD) from Meritline because they were cheap however the price is slowly rising. I've also bought TY silver inkjet printabl DVD's & CD's from both Meritline & Supermediastore depending on who was cheapest at the time of order.

Lately I've watched the local B&M sales for DVD & CD media. Picked up Imatation & Maxell CDR's for $7 per 50 pack from Office Depot. Went to the same place for Ritek made Mexell DVD's when they were on sale. Officemax has been good for 2 Verb DVD sales lately. I stocked up!!
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26. October 2007 @ 15:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by catfreak
bratcher, are you having success with the Imations? I haven't used them in years because of a bad experience with them eight years or so ago. . .[/quote:

One 50 pack seemed to burn & play back (audio CD's) just fine. I burned that 52x media at 16x. Haven't tried the other packs yet as I'm going through the Maxell packs at the moment.
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28. October 2007 @ 22:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@catfreak
just of interest I had very bad experience with Imations a few years ago and have refused to purchase them ever since
the line "once bitten twice shy" might sum it up
and these were Imation purchased in australia
main problem was skipping and playback trouble
 
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