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What are the good brands of CD-R out there?
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sorrow93
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5. February 2007 @ 16:34 |
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@platy767
if I remember correctly you are aussie I recommend you try the latest TDK 'snap & save' media they are currently promotional they come in a 50 pack from DSE and others.
They work well for me and this might sound stupid but they have a wonderful surface to write on - remember the TDK blueish discs from those 100 tins had an almost sun-faded blue surface? These latest tdks to me look and write wonderfully.
just a lame observation I know.
the DSE site had these discs as data so I actually gave TDK australia a phonecall to confirm they are also audio-suited they said Yes.
I know a 50 pack might be too many but if you want a wise choice.
anyway, trying to help actually I might add a link to the discs:
btw they are also on the tdk australia site under promotional
sorry if this link is long cannot be helped :(
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storef...uct/View/XM0952
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JoeRyan
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6. February 2007 @ 11:39 |
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Medium/drive combinations that provide the fewest errors both after recording and long-term are the best choice. However, that does not necessarily mean that those same low error rates will appear on other reading drives. A disc that has low error rates when scanned on its recording drive may show higher error rates when read on a different drive, and these rates may actually be higher than those from a disc that looked worse when it was recorded and played on the same recording drive. There are a great many factors involved, but generally the differences will not be great.
If sound quality is critical, I would put the effort into getting a great disc player with excellent error correction and finding a good combination of recording drive and disc. Poor error correction can make even a near perfect disc sound flawed.
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bratcher
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7. February 2007 @ 05:25 |
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Originally posted by Platy767:
Thanks JoeRyan,
So...we are better to use a CD-R media / burner combination that results in the lesser number of errors? We should use a combination that reduces the "risk" of having bursts that overload/ overrate error correction circuitry? Sounds good to me (pun intended!)
Even my non statistical, one off scanning has identified that my burner does better, that is, reports lower error counts, with media other than media from CMC Magnetics. These CMC discs have been labelled as Imation, TDK, Verbatim.
Better results have come from Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim, and Ritek manufactured media. The trouble is these also have been labelled from TDK (TY), Verbatim (Verbatim), and Maxell (Ritek).
I tried the Verbatim "Vinyl" CD-R and it's also a CMC disc - similar results to the others from that manufacturer.
The TDK VeloCD I used to use made audio CD's (with CMC media) that buzzed & crackled. I don't use CMC media anymore not even with my Plextor 716-A DVDRW & Emprex CDR writers. Nope never again. Ritek works great with both drives as does TY. Those are the only DVD & CD media I'll ever buy plus Verbatim for +R DL.
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Platy767
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8. February 2007 @ 00:58 |
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Added the Verbatim Vinyl results of test burns into my table along with another real burn on a Verbatim LightScribe - quite a difference from the one brand.
I want to see how the MAM-A disks that piano632 recommended end up. I should have some later in the month.
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Platy767
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8. February 2007 @ 01:03 |
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Oops, that table turned out larger in life than I expected! Hopefully it's not too intrusive.
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8. February 2007 @ 13:50 |
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I can see it from far away :)
Don't worry about it - good useful info there.
Maybe burn speed & burner should be listed - may play a factor on the scores - just a thought though.
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Platy767
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16. February 2007 @ 17:28 |
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Done some more burning and scanning. Added the Verbatim "Vinyl", TDK XA80 Audio, MAM Gold (which indicated a poor result for me, particularly from 60 minutes to the end, and cost $4 a disc), and a couple of That's (TY) discs. The results are in the table following. As binkie7 suggested, I added the burner and burn speed details. All scans were done on a Benq DW1650.
I had decided that the Verbatim LightScribe (coding as Verbatim in Nero CDSpeed) were the way to go. The error average was the lowest and the LS feature let me burn labels as well. The problem is that when I bought my cakebox of Verbatim LightScribes today, what do you think was inside? As soon as I removed the packaging and looked at the burn side of the disc, I knew I was in trouble. No lovely Blue Azo surface, just a yellow/silver colour. They are CMC Magnetics discs! I included a scan of a test burn in the table (not too bad). I'm quite disapointed the discs were not what I previously had. These CMC discs are in a pack of 30 whereas I had bought packs of 10 before and got the Verbatim Verbatims.
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16. February 2007 @ 20:15 |
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brand doesnt matter, I have always used the cheapest disc and never coaster. Burn speed low to mid...
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16. February 2007 @ 20:46 |
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I've been burning CDs for over a decade now . . and in that period of time, I've burned countless discs . .
The CDs that I've had the greatest success with are the round ones with the hole in the center . . .
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Platy767
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17. February 2007 @ 00:39 |
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Quote:
The CDs that I've had the greatest success with are the round ones with the hole in the center . . .
And no doubt you got them right side up 50% of the time!
Sorry...I agree with you. Go with what works.
Anyway, I had some fun(?) doing the scans.
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sorrow93
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17. February 2007 @ 02:38 |
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Platy767 keep those results coming in mate
the TDK XA80 audio I was told are mainly for stand-alone-burners?
I used them years ago on a normal burner with success.
can you shed any light?
verbatim changed the vinyl cd-r from blue Azo to gold recently as well :(
I emailed their vinyl-cdr website a year ago and got no reply.
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17. February 2007 @ 10:57 |
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Hey Platy767
Great informative table you've done!
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piano632
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1. March 2007 @ 18:07 |
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The best CD-R media available - bar none. These are Taiyo Yuden discs with 3 layers of scratch protection added by Maxell. I just started using these discs for audio and the sound quality is simply stunning to say the least - even regular TY discs sound dull compared to the Maxell Pro's. Apparently the scratch protection layer they put on these must also be focusing the laser beam better. Unfortunately these Maxell's don't seem to be available outside North America. Highly recommended if you can get them. In the U.S. you can find them at Staples and various on-line stores.
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1. March 2007 @ 20:32 |
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I get the Maxell Pro's at Wal Mart . . And yes! There are none better
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2. March 2007 @ 08:19 |
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It happens I have a 100% record with these http://www.dvdshoponline.co.uk/P1623.html unless I have messed up with the data I'm trying to burn..
Then again all Spice Girls cd's have burned great when put on the wood burning stove.
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cnb1703
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5. March 2007 @ 03:50 |
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I have tryed many different name brands of cd-r blank media and by far the best I have used and currently am using is Taiyo Yuden Cd-r. The only thing i dont like about them are they are REALLY SUPER thin you can see through them =(
Ps2 v7
DMS4 Pro SE Modchip
Taiyo Yuden DVD-R
Taiyo Yuden CD-R
Verbatim DVD+DL
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coachop94
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5. March 2007 @ 07:58 |
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when shopping for the fuji's look for the ones that say "archival" quality they are the ones that code out as Ty's
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rmcgo
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8. March 2007 @ 02:15 |
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I am looking for printable to the center CD-R's, can anyone recommend a type. It will be for burning MP3's.
Thanks,
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8. March 2007 @ 06:46 |
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rmcgo..Pretty much all brands are printable nowadays..Look for the 1's that advertise [Hub Printable].These print all the way to the hole.
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cgl88
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13. March 2007 @ 03:31 |
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Do you guys know if I can still buy CD-R media that uses a green dye and not the silver/yellow ones made with most spindle CDs? I don't want to buy a spindle only to find out it does not use this dye.
The reason I want this color is that the car cd player is picky and will only play these discs. I have only correlated 'made in japan' with the dye color but that was years ago. I am not sure if that 'rule' still applies.
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13. March 2007 @ 07:57 |
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In the USofA you can get the CDs with the greenish dye at KMart (the made in Japan Fuji discs) or at WalMart (the MaxellPro -again, made in Japan)
They're my favorites . . .
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13. March 2007 @ 08:43 |
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The MIJ Fugifilm CDR's have a blue bottom & are made by Tayio Yuden in Japan. They should work in your cars CD player. If not then buy a new CD/Radio unit for your car & it will play any CDR disc! My JVC Radio/CD/Cassette player does!!
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18. March 2007 @ 20:08 |
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I just picked up a spindle of 100 Verbatim CD-R discs at Office Max for $14.99 that are one of this weeks sale items . . .
They are made by CMC Magnetics . . . even Verbatim is apparently scraping the bottom of the proverbial media barrel
A couple of weeks ago, I picked up several spindels of 25 Verbatim Colored Background LightScribe CDs and they also were made by CMC Magnetics
I'm getting tired of returning this C-Mag crap
At least a person can buy Maxell and get either ProDisc or TY both of which are vastly superior to that Verbatim CD-R rubbish
Fortunately, the 500 Verbatim DVD+R discs that I purchased at Best Buy last week were MCC-004-00 which my set top recorders just love
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Platy767
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19. March 2007 @ 00:14 |
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Hey catfreak,
I can only echo your sentiments about the supply of discs sold as Verbatim. I tried a few different brands (as my table above shows) before deciding on the Verbatim LightScribe. (Azo)
Unfortunately my purchase of a 30 disc spindle gave me CMC Magnetic discs. I'm not through the spindle yet and already have 5 coasters(on 2 different drives). Even stranger was 1 disc that burned OK, but did not register as a lightscribe disc when I went to burn the label. Only 1 of those so far.
These are the last Verb CD-Rs for me. The fact I can get TY or That's labelled TY CD-Rs at the same store I bought the LightScribes at only makes me feel (and probably look) pretty silly.
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piano632
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19. March 2007 @ 06:24 |
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The only 2 known good brands of CD-R left are TY and MAM-A. But I've heard stories of people even getting bad batches of these too. I bought 3 spindles of Maxell Pro CD-R (made by TY) only to find that 1-2 discs in each spindle has scratches on it (mostly around the outer edge, but still they shouldn't be there at all).
HHB media (at least in North America) is made by MAM-A and so far seems to be as good as old Mitsui discs, so I would recommend them. These are the cheapest prices I could find on them:
http://www.tapes.com/product_info.php?cP...roducts_id=1383
Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab (MFSL) has their gold CD-R which are reportedly (according to a German audio magazine) the best CD-R made today. They use Mitsui dye and cost $3-4 per disc and only come in 650 MB/74 min. size.
Not to be outdone, Memorex has come out with their own gold CD-R and DVD-R that cost even more ($5 per disc, for those that think it's worth it). Made by MAM-E, according to one report.
Delkin has had gold CD-R and DVD-R for some time now. Supposedly they are using Mitsui dye, but I can't find much written about the quality of these discs.
And last, but not least, Verbatim now has gold CD-R called UltraLife. No report on quality at this time.
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