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27. March 2006 @ 16:07 |
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I just hope the movie is better than what I've been told.
edit: It was! Great graphics.
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jamoskeag
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27. March 2006 @ 16:14 |
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If using Shrink, suggest you use Deep Analysis for a movie this long>
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27. March 2006 @ 18:33 |
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27. March 2006 @ 18:41 |
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jamoskeag - I'm not sure if that was a question or comment? However my answer to both is Yes.
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jamoskeag
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27. March 2006 @ 19:38 |
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It was:
1. a fact. KK is about 3hrs
2. A recomendation. DA helps quality for long DVD, which require compression
Hope this helps clarify!!
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27. March 2006 @ 20:53 |
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I usually just use Shrink for most DVD's and use Regular DVD's unless the compression rate is less than 70%, then I burn on DL instead. It also depends on the type of movie and how worth it I think it is. I haven't bought K Kong yet, but when I do and I back it up, I'm probably going to do a full copy on a DL disc. I watch a lot of movies on my computer and I have a good large monitor so I start seeing a big difference in quality if I compress more than 70%.
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bigwop
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27. March 2006 @ 23:35 |
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I use deep analysis and maximum smoothness (in dvd shrink)on movies of this length with excellent results. I have a 50in LCD projection HDTV and I can hardly tell the difference.
I was so ugly when I was a kid, my parents used to take me everywhere just so they wouldn't have to kiss me goodbye.
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28. March 2006 @ 08:19 |
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Wow, really, bigwop?
On my 27" bedroom TV, i notice the 55% compression, even with the quality options checked.
But again, I think think it was in this thread, but if the movie is that long, and it's worth it (meaning I love it or really want it), I'll just use the DL disc. If it's a movie that I couldn't care less about, I'll just stick to Shrink and its quality controls.
Latest AnyDVD to rip > VOBB to blank the unwanted on a DVD > Shrink to compress > ImgBurn to burn = Never starting a thread asking how to backup a movie
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28. March 2006 @ 09:23 |
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backed up King Kong today its at 46% compression with CloneDVD 2 doing the movie only but the picture quality still good very good on my Sony LCD 26 inch TV ,i will try it on my larger screen later
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hockeyfan
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28. March 2006 @ 10:30 |
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Ok all this compression rate has got me lost. Its basically saying "there is not enough space on your target drive" My target drive being my DVD Burner drive and disc. Is there anything special I will have to do to burn king kong? As far as the DVD rebuilder stuff goes I am as lost doing that as I am reading Chinese. Could someone please tell me a more simple way to help me burn this movie? Thanks guys!
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28. March 2006 @ 10:59 |
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Well, I backed it up on 1 disc (Movie only) and it looks Great but if you are using Anydvd and CloneDvd2 the "Jump directly to movie" option does not work. I like to keep the Menus since I don't like guessing where the chapters are.
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hockeyfan
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28. March 2006 @ 11:04 |
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So the movie only should fit on one disc? I dont really care much for extras since I never check them out anyways. I too like to keep the menus though. What program did you use?
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28. March 2006 @ 11:24 |
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Yes, it will fit just fine on one disc with Menus. I used AnyDvd and CloneDvd2.
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N2DVD
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28. March 2006 @ 11:28 |
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It looks better on a DVD-5 if you leave the menu and extras out. Because the movie is pretty big and will look a little pixelated and grainy if you leave the menu and extras in. I honestly can do without the menus anyway because my DVD players have title and chapter preview optioning allowing me to go to any availble chapter on a DVD without menu chapters included. I think you will find this feature on most new DVD players. I have two single disc SONY players that retail for $79.00 I learned about them here at the forums.:P
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S2K
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28. March 2006 @ 11:33 |
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Everone has an opinion but I if you don't haave dual layer I recommend considering spanning such films to two disks with no compression. It costs about $0.25 more and it is very easy with re-author in shrink.
You won't be sorry if you are watching this film in a couple of years on a larger monitor.
Action or high value cinematography oriented films really can show differences at even compression to 80% of original, even with the best compression methods.
The price you pay? anotehr blank dvdr5 at $0.25 and stretching your legs for 20 seconds in the middle of a two hour or so film. to me, well worth having a copy that as good as the original.
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28. March 2006 @ 11:49 |
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Back-up copies are just portable copies (This is a hobby), I own the original DVD so exact, though I appreciate the compression being as high as possible I am not a stickler unless the compression reads under 50%:P
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28. March 2006 @ 14:28 |
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I was able to get the compression rate to about 60% taking out the extras and stuff in Shrink, then again on a 55" TV I wouldn't be satisfied , then again I would just buy the original ;)
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mrchub
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28. March 2006 @ 15:50 |
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Just backed up Kong on a Ritek DL after ditching the warnings/nags. All hail Kong!
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bsr2002
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28. March 2006 @ 16:01 |
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@aabbccdd
backed up King Kong today its at 46% compression with CloneDVD 2 doing the movie only but the picture quality still good very good on my Sony LCD 26 inch TV ,i will try it on my larger screen later
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Yes, looked great on my 27"in the bedroom and looks great on my 55" in the livingroom. I'm happy with it :) I only used FabDecrypter and Shrink :)
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Spilo
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28. March 2006 @ 16:35 |
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What program do you use to burn this movie to Dual layer disc?
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28. March 2006 @ 16:43 |
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i just backed up king kong with only Dvdshrink and it was 4,464MB with the extra's out. I am using Sony DVD+Rs. Good Luck!
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mrchub
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28. March 2006 @ 16:48 |
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Spilo, for dual/double-layer burning use ImgBurn. Far more reliable than Nero.
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Buik
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28. March 2006 @ 17:16 |
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Everyone mentions removing the extra's. Have not seen any mention of removing starting & ending frames. I do it on every one I process these days.
If you only want to watch the movie, it has several advantages. Improved quality, if the movie requires any compression or a smaller file if compression is not needed. Shorter processing time. Keep the files further from the edge if a full 4.35gb file is not being burned.
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JaguarGod
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28. March 2006 @ 17:16 |
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I have the single disc Widescreen version and I do not remember seeing any special features on it. There is only 1 audio track and 3 subtitles (maybe 4).
As for compressing, for those that are going to pout this on 1 DVD5, I highly recommend that you remove the ending crecdits. These run for about 20 minutes. Also, I believe it does have a motion menu (shows how good my memory is, I just watched it 40 minutes ago). Set the menu to a still with MenuShrink.
Assuming this entire disc is filled, you are looking at an initial bitrate of about 5800kbps. This is an above average value and on par with other Universal releases (btw, Sony uses the lowest bitrate on movies with an average of about 3700kbps).
If you remove the credits and menu, I am estimating this will be about 500MB savings. When compressing to DVD5, the bitrate will then drop to about 3000kbps or roughly a 51.7% compression ration.
However, do not always look at compression %. 51.7% is good on a Superbit movie or a Criterion Collection DVD, but not on normal releases. 3000kbps represents 33% of max allowed DVD quality, but the original is compressed to 1.2% or 83:1. This is one of those movies that I would consider putting on two DVD5 or if I had any, I would definately go DVDR DL on this one!!
However, also keep this in mind... If you have ever backed up a Sony movie like Stealth, The Cave, Bewitched, etc... and compressed this to about 80%, you will get similar results compressing this one to 52%... This will give you somewhat of an idea on the picture quality after compression.
I have not backed this one up yet, but if I do soon, I can either write a guide, or modify the hell out of the DVD for maximum bitrate keeping the menus in tact and post a mini-ripping guide and host the modified IFOs... Before I go and do this, someone please let me know if this is allowed (hosting modified IFOs).
If it is not allowed, I will post a guide, but I will warn you that it will most likely be advanced as Universal movies are among the hardest to edit....
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28. March 2006 @ 17:22 |
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How do you span a movie over 2 disks? I have not seen this feature in Shrink.
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