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acoolguy
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28. June 2006 @ 06:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i know it is against the law to remove copy protection, but does that make AnyDVD illegal to own/purchase?

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alpsig
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28. June 2006 @ 06:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No. It is perfectly legally to back-up your own video collection for your own personnel use. The only way to do that is by breaking the protection on the original disc. The protections on the DVDs are to protect the manufacture and such from people copying a movie then selling copies to the public for personnel financial gain.
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28. June 2006 @ 06:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the short answer is yes, it is illegal in the u.s.a.
any program that can compromise the copy prtection is illegal, remember the software " x copy" ? and what happened to them.

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28. June 2006 @ 08:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
quote"i know it is against the law to remove copy protection, but does that make AnyDVD illegal to own/purchase?"

when i pay 15 to 24 dollars for a dvd, it should be MY DVD, i should do whatever i want with it, and make a copy should be one of my options. so, i don't even care if AnyDVD is illegal. i'm glad they are located in a country in which is legal to develop it. F--k them.



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28. June 2006 @ 08:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i couldnt agree more...
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28. June 2006 @ 09:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi :)
i do believe that even in the states, or anywhere that has copy right laws. that you are breaking that law if you copy a protected disc, to copy said disc you have to break the protection on that disc therefore making it an illegal copy.
you may own the disc, but not the content
so therefore your not allowed to make even 1 copy



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28. June 2006 @ 09:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well said elizerroj.
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28. June 2006 @ 09:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Gurnard.........What a stupid reply." you own the disc but not the content? " Hello..McFly.....Thats like saying i own my car but not the motor, etc.
dana0069
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28. June 2006 @ 09:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The politicians in this country are mindless, spineless idots, who are dicated thru the likes of the movie industry, the game makers, the oil company's and the like.
They wrote the law to read like this: (summary)
You are allowed to make a backup of your disc providing you legally own it.
Now here's the idiotcy of it: It is illegal to compromise/strip a disc of its copy protection.
Now tell me, when was the last time you bought a disc/movie/game that didn't have some form of copy protection on it?
Now how stupid is that law!!!

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28. June 2006 @ 09:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Arkansas

Show a little respect and think before your speak. Gurnard is absolutely correct. Your analogy is incorrect....


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bilbo65 hi :)
thanks for the back up, they can please their selves.
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28. June 2006 @ 10:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Show a little respect and think before your speak. Gurnard is absolutely correct. Your analogy is incorrect....
I couldn't agree more, and thanks bilbo65 for saying it for me too. And just to add my buddy gurnard does not make stupid relplies, he is to cautious for that :)

Yes it is illegal in the states, when you go to buy it asks you up front if you live in the States because it is illegal.


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28. June 2006 @ 10:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Another Razorback bites the dust.

gurnard is 100% correct. Against the law to break copy protection.


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28. June 2006 @ 10:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, I lease my cars so does that mean I own them.............not.


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What was so stupid about my reply? Facts are facts. If everything is so wrong why do you all give information to pepole on how to beat the system? That my friends is what is called a double standard.

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Why should we not provide information on how to beat the system? Is it illegal to know teach somebody how to rob a bank? I do not think so. But is it is illegal to rob the bank? Of course. We are just providing information, it is up to the end use to determine if they want to proceed with the process. Providing this info. is not illegal, the act is the only illegal part.
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28. June 2006 @ 10:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow....so much anger. I personally think that if you disagree with the act of backing up your own personal property, then dont do it. Nobody is forcing you to download the software, or to commit the act. If you Arkansas, feel it is morally wrong to do it....then dont. But personally, I dont think you care either way....
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28. June 2006 @ 10:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You my friend is what i'll call a stupid responder.

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28. June 2006 @ 10:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ffemt685:
Theres no anger Just don't piss on my boots & tell me its raining.
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28. June 2006 @ 10:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ Arkansas:

if you dont like the way a thread is going ,then unsubscribe but dont try opening another thread on the same topic , Go read the forum rules.

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Ffemt685:
Theres no anger Just don't piss on my boots & tell me its raining.
keep it civil

this is a forum.Your the one who started this debarcle with calling gurnard a prat so just chill out before a mod makes it permanent


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28. June 2006 @ 10:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The real problem in the copy protection story is that "Hollywood's" business model just hasn't caught up with the reality of people being able to get around copy protection. I differentiate between breaking copy protection to protect my investment (backing up a CD/DVD that I own, and making a copy for selling to a third party. One thing that would reduce the latter would be for Hollywood to stop trying to get enormous profits from sales of DVds. We all know that they cost a few cents, so trying to sell them for tens of dollars is verging on immoral. As long as there are artists whose demands for huge fees are met, the problem will go on. I take comfort from the fact that history is full of people who wouldn't accept changed circumstance and without exception they've lost.
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Arkansas: "You my friend is what i'll call a stupid responder. "

Wow, just wow. I think you might need to grow up.

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28. June 2006 @ 11:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ Arkansas:

stop multiposting you have replied with 2 messages in a row.
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This is one of those debates that no one can win. I often wonder if I purchase a DVD, do I own it or does the copyright holder. If you sell something, you no longer have any right or control over what the purchaser does with the sold item. This rule applies to everyone except for the Entertainment industry. This sounds like they?re ?having your cake and eating it too?. What would people say if General Motors and Toyota sells them a car, then turns around and tells them what they can and can not do with it? After all they have patents and copyrights on those vehicles too. What about your kids who cut pictures and articles from copyrighted magazines, are they also thieves?

When you buy a DVD, you should own it. I mean should you not be allowed to lend your copy out? How about forcing DVD owners to collect fees for the movie industry every time they play the movie for a different person or lend it out? After all taking your DVD to school to show it is a big ?No No?. You can only watch a DVD movie so many times before the novelty wears off and then the only enjoyment you get is by sharing it with somebody who has not seen it before, but the movie industry would stop that if they could.

The movie industry has become a victim of their own greed. They constantly complain that cloning DVDs is hurting their business but that doesn?t explain why they still make massive profits even after all the overhead. What they?re really afraid of is that anybody can set themselves up as a film maker or musician and market themselves independently using technology such as the internet. This is where the film industry can no longer have a monopoly on what we watch and listen to. Unfortunately for them, we now have choices beyond what they?ve engineered by controlling all the avenues of free and self expression.
 
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