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According to US law, is AnyDVD legal?
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28. June 2006 @ 11:42 |
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When you BUY a DVD or CD you own the DISC not the content. You're allowed to play the content for your enjoyment and you can let your family and friends Borrow the disc and enjoy the content.. It's when you start Copying the content that things start becoming illegal...
Things years ago used to be different . If you owned a Cd or Cassette for that matter you were actuallya ALLOWED to make Backup Copies for you and your friends.. but it wasn't like you'd have a copy = the original.. Now that you can produce exact copies that are just as good as being original the laws have changed...
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28. June 2006 @ 12:03 |
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28. June 2006 @ 13:59 |
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rock&roll and decypter, fabdecrypter, AnyDVD and all of the other program that break protection are about the same thing; STICKING IT TO THE MAN!
Nero Recode2 or Shrink using deep analysis and AEC/ fabdecrypter or anydvd running in the background/ IMGBurn to burn/main movie only mode= perfect.
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28. June 2006 @ 20:32 |
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It is LEGAL to back-up movies that you own in the =USA=.
It is not limited to 1 copy (as some stated) you can back-up as many copys as you like, however it is ILLEGAL to sell them or display them in public.
I own a video store, I can legally back-up copys however I can not play the copys in my store(display them in public) I can however play the copys in the privacy of my home.
It is legal to have the programs on your computer as long as you use them legally.
In the =USA=
It is legal to make back-up copys and remove the protection!!!
(I can even modify the film if I wish to, however I can-not view or display the modified version in public or sell it. Without written permission)
It is Illegal to remove the protection from the original movie!!!
(It is ILLEGAL to modify the content or remove the protection on the original disc, The original disc is the only one I can display in public or resell.)
This is the law in the =USA= as I understand it.
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29. June 2006 @ 01:34 |
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@Lp531 Quote:
It is legal to make back-up copys and remove the protection!!!
It is Illegal to remove the protection from the original movie!!!
Isn't this a contradiction in terms?
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Think of it this way. When you buy a DVD your only purchasing a permit to use/view the movie. You are not buying the movie itself. Just like when you buy Windows. Your purchasing the license to use Windows not the software. In both cases, buying the movie or Windows, you don't have the legal system behind you to change anything (such as removel of copy protections). If you were buying the movie (Windows) you would be able to make money off of it in the form of royalities.
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29. June 2006 @ 02:56 |
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Of course it's a contradiction. Every time we burn a movie that has copy protection technically we are breaking the law.
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29. June 2006 @ 04:56 |
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Well said, sammychan you couln't put it more simpler.
I completely agree with your point of view.
Chuck
"Men are slower to recognize blessings than misfortunes." Titus Livius (59BC-17AD)
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29. June 2006 @ 05:34 |
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i cannot stand shelling out about £17 for a DVD, then if it gets broken we are 'obliged' to buy another copy, NO WAY copy it and keep a backup, just in case people!!!
ry
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29. June 2006 @ 10:55 |
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Quote:
It is legal to make back-up copys and remove the protection!!!
(I am talking about the backed-up copy. HERE)
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It is Illegal to remove the protection from the original movie!!!
(I am talking about the original disc. HERE)
One is the copy one is the original.
What CAN MAKE the copy illegal is the usage.(the displaying in public) the disc is not illegal by itself, as long as its used legally.(private viewing only)
Is that any clearer?
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29. June 2006 @ 11:07 |
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Yes it's clear but the laws still aren't like they used to be.. You can't make copies for your friends and family legally.. Years ago you could
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29. June 2006 @ 11:18 |
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@tmfloria
I agree with that completely.
Probably 99.99% of us are doing something that makes the copying illegal.
However if you follow all the rules, you can posses back-up copys of movies legally.
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29. June 2006 @ 11:33 |
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Many commercial movies are protected. Not all movies are protected.Unfortunately, current interpretation of laws in some countries, including the US, prohibits distribution of software that has the ability to copy commerical movies.
If you live in the United States, please understand that the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) passed in 1998 does not expressly prohibit consumers from making backup copies of digital works - only the sale & distribution of tools that circumvent copy prevention technologies.
POSTED PER,LOCOENG and jumped on by ireland
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The Digital Millennium Copyright Act - DMCA
Also read the article DMCA Revisited
Introduction
Back until September '99 CSS - Content Scrambling System - was considered secure, at least if the movie industry was concerned. But in late September 99 I read the small note at inmatrix.com that CSS had been broken. Although there had been many cryptanalysts telling that CSS was not safe and rather easy to crack it took rather long till it cracking actually happened. Later in '99 the MPAA learned of an utility called DeCSS which allows people to decrypt the VOB files to your hard disk. It's important to know that copying DVDs was possible way before that. As soon as you have a software DVD player running you can copy any file on a DVD to your hard disk - but it will still be encrypted. However it might be possible to put the encrypted content on a recordable DVD and play it back without actually having to decrypt CSS. Soon after the MPAA learned of this utility, they started out sending letters like that to sites that were offering DeCSS. They pointed out that the DMCA would forbid circumventing CSS and therefore that utility would be illegal. Many providers complied to their demands and shut down websites offering the utility. On December 27 '99 the DVD-CCA - DVD Copy Control Association - launched a lawsuit in California against about 600 people worldwide who were offering DeCSS for download. In the first instance their motion for a preliminary injunction was denied but later on it was granted. That process made it widely know that CSS could be cracked and it was the first time that this was widely reported in the press. On January 15 2000 the MPAA launched a lawsuit against several website suing under the DMCA for circumvention of a copy-protection scheme. The motion for a preliminary injunction was granted on January 24. Later on the MPAA tried to expand to lawsuit to bar 2600.org from even linking to DeCSS.
go here to read the total article
http://dvdxcopy.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/291998
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29. June 2006 @ 11:47 |
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@ireland
So it can be legal to posses back-up copys of movies in the =USA=.
But:
It is illegal to posses the software that will accomplish this in the =USA=?
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sammychan
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29. June 2006 @ 11:55 |
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I wouldn't put too much thought in to this any more. From what I read, it's only illegal to backup movies that you do not own. Also only the people who are copying and SELLING DVDs in massive amounts worth anybody's time and effort to target. What you think they're going to put everybody who backs up any DVD in jail which equates to upwards of half the population now a days haha.
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29. June 2006 @ 12:24 |
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anyway who is this paladin chap??
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29. June 2006 @ 12:40 |
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Lp531
ye is on the money..
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29. June 2006 @ 12:48 |
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Paladin (Have gun will travel) was one of the coolest western dudes on early B&W TV from the fifties. Richard Boone, star and bad A$$ for hire.
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29. June 2006 @ 13:03 |
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The law varies from country to country. Where I live, making backup copies is technically illegal, but the law is almost impossible to enforce. I suspect that much the same applies in USA & UK. I'm pretty certain of the UK situation. I also believe that selling pirate copies for profit is a criminal matter, but that making pprivate copies is a civil matter, which means in effect that Hollywood has to go after each person one by one. I suspect they will say to themselves that it's just not worth the effort. But commercial copying is another matter. This is pursued vigorously in US, UK and where I live.
To go back to the original question, AnyDVD is probably illegal in US law.
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29. June 2006 @ 13:06 |
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29. June 2006 @ 13:08 |
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I think you can rent the whole series from Netflix! Or you could go out and buy the entire series and make your own back-ups and learn how to miss-quote an old late 50's early 60's TV hero. "Have Gun, Will Travel . . . Wire Paladin, San Francisco."
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BigMike2
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29. June 2006 @ 14:06 |
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17 pounds for a DVD in Britan? Thats better then 32 USD! Thats outrageous!! I thought the 15 - 20 USD that I pay for a top notch new release was bad.
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29. June 2006 @ 15:50 |
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@ireland
Thanks, Not trying to sound like an attorney just trying to understand if my rights have changed.
[Quote:"only the sale & distribution of tools that circumvent copy prevention technologies"]
Wouldn't the key words be SALE & DISTRIBUTION
Possesion of the software being still legal? (As long as used legally, I KNOW TRY NOT TO LAUGH!)
I'm just try'in to find out if I still have a GOOD'OL LOOPHOLE...for possesing software.
The =USA= is all about LOOP HOLES...
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. June 2006 @ 17:23
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29. June 2006 @ 17:31 |
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You can have the sw, it is what you do with it that pushes legality. My daughter uses Shrink all the time, but not for ripping movies. She uses it to do PowerPoint DVD Slide Shows for Parents/Schools and other agencies. It is becoming a business with her. So this sw can have other purposes. She does nothing illegal with it.
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29. June 2006 @ 18:59 |
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@arniebear
Good Point same here, I use Copy to DVD SE the ripping component of 1clickDVD to back-up my documents and just about everything else to DVD.
People don't just use their DVD software to back-up movies.
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30. June 2006 @ 16:51 |
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I wouldn't worry about it. If you have the program then use it. I still only use the free ones and they work find for now (DVDdecrypter, DVDshrink, IFOEdit, and FabDVD).
Bottom line is you do not own the data on the DVD only the physical DVD.
If you are still ok with that then go ahead and make your "backups". I like making "backups" of movies because I can edit out parts of movies that I don't like. But, most of the time I just make a simple "backup" of the movie only with DVDshrink. Have fun and enjoy.
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