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Sonys at it again , new protection
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24. December 2006 @ 13:22 |
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are you using the lastest dvdfab? 3.0.3.5
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geburuh
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24. December 2006 @ 13:24 |
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Bad original movie disk????
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daldan
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24. December 2006 @ 13:26 |
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Not to sound stupid but how would I check the version of dvdfab that I have?
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geburuh
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24. December 2006 @ 13:28 |
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Go to website & download latest one
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geburuh
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24. December 2006 @ 13:29 |
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PS: does this movie play good on your DVD player?
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PacMan777
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24. December 2006 @ 14:43 |
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RipIt4Me (RI4M) is a control program that also automatically creates PSL files for DVD Decrypter. With the PSL files DVD Decrypter can decrypt most of the new releases, including the Sony ones. The whole setup is free as in $00.00, zilch, nada, no bucks. RI4M uses FixVTS which it installs during installation with the installer. You should already have DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink installed before installing the RipIt4Me. RI4M uses them in the process. Ripit4Me using the programs mentioned has done movies that I would have had to wait for AnyDVD updates to do. You'll have one of the best methods of doing backups without paying a thing. You can also use DVD Decrypter, DVD Shrink, and FixVTS separately when you need them. With the bargain price, anyone doing video backups should have them. If you want to spend $39 (soon to be $49) for a good app like AnyDVD, you should be happy to get a bunch of the best for $00.00.
http://www.ripit4me.org/
Be sure you have the latest version. To know that you have to visit the site or have the update feature on. This app will check for you. I noticed a lot of programs have About under Help in their user menu (bar). In About you find the version number.
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24. December 2006 @ 15:31 |
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For the movie Shottas, I used DVDFab3, it worked fine without anything else, hope this held you
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PacMan777
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24. December 2006 @ 16:45 |
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I've been doing DVD backups since DVD burners came along. Over that time I've used many of the decryption apps. DVDFab Decrypter, DVD Decrypter, DVD+Region Free, DVD43, AnyDVD, RipIt4Me, DVD Shrink, DVDXCopy (those aren't in chronological order). I included a couple of transcoders, but they had their own decryption software. I'm sure I've left some out. The only stinker in the bunch is DVD43. Personal opinion because it messed with my system on boot. For whatever reason it triggered my System32 files to open at boot. Simple solution, get rid of it. Not everyone had that problem, I wasn't impressed with it anyway. DVD Decrypter and AnyDVD have been the standouts. While supported Decrypter couldn't be beat and it was free. Decrypter was only ahead of AnyDVD on cost. AnyDVD has constantly beat the others on staying updated, which means it works when others won't. I now use AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter with the cracking off. That way I have the friendly interface of Decrypter for ripping with the power of AnyDVD for the encryption and copy protection problem. Even when a new protection comes out, if Decrypter has the right PSL files, it will decrypt the movie before other apps get updated. Till Ripit4me came along, the job was done with wizard software or manually for those who studied enough to learn how. Most of the time it was worth waiting a day or so on AnyDVD. Now with RipIt4Me doing those PSLs automatically and running DVD Decrypter, It puts DVD Decrypter back in competition as a top decryption tool on its own (with RI4M's help of course). DVDFab Decrypter is a good app. I only faulted it with being slower to be updated. Maybe that's been improved some since I last checked. Region Free, good but again slower than AnyDVD on the updates. So we see why so many people have different solutions for a DVD that work.
With Sony's Arccos and other copy protections we started having to deal with file compliance which made the software work harder. AnyDVD included a ripper incorporating software for compliance editing, it's still included. Sometimes if it doesn't work automatically, try the ripper and open the files from the HD. Then if it doesn't work there should be an updated shortly. Most of the decryption tools will still do most movies. But Sony and a few others are being most difficult and only a few stay updated to handle them well. RI4M has already proven to be as good as AnyDVD (or almost anyway) with the suite of top freeware programs. As of today, the programs I rely on are AnyDVD and RipIt4Me (which includes FixVTS, DVD Decrypter, and DVD Shrink). As I mentioned before, Decrypter gets used with AnyDVD, but with the CSS cracking off. The way I do the job, I usually need the files ripped to the HD and I like the DVD Decrypter interface for that.
I rip with AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter (or RI4M). (RI4M won't work with AnyDVD on, it will warn you if you try.) Then I open the cleaned files from the HD in Rebuilder with Cinema Craft Encoder for encoding. Once the job is done I burn the output with Nero Express. Most of the free burners and those from other companies work just as well. That part is user choice. LOL The RB/CCE is where there is little comparison, just as there isn't much that compares to AnyDVD or RI4M. I switched to RB so I could get the best video, even under high compression. Now I don't worry about editing. I just rip, let the software encode and burn the output. I've yet to find a DVD I couldn't completely rip and make a backup.
By the time Sony started getting difficult, they were only a mild pain in the bottom. I don't see why they bother. I'm not claiming to be an expert. I was lucky enough to have friends show me what worked best and point out who keeps the updates best. I'm not doing anything special, it's all in the software. I can only claim knowing how to use that, but it doesn't take much of my limited brain power. LOL
AnyDVD isn't that much better as a decryption program than some of the others. It's just kept updated so it works with the changes made in copy protection by companies like sony that are always changing things, trying to keep DVD owners from protecting their factory DVD with a backup. AnyDVD has a full function 3 week trial and RI4M with the suite of software is free. It costs nothing to learn about what my friends showed me. If you happen to like the AnyDVD you might want to buy it.
Good luck and Merry Christmas
PS Just remember, Sony isn't much of a problem if you use software that has been updated to deal with the recent copy protections they've added. Those of you who are not searching topics here at AD, I suggest you do so. All I've said here is old material covered by many of the knowledgable AD members.
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daldan
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24. December 2006 @ 18:24 |
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Dvdfab is up to date now but can't do a proper total backup. DVDFab3 is a program I can't sem to find without memberships. Is it freeware. And why do I have no problems with the other movies mention in this thread just the lowest budget one?
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geburuh
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24. December 2006 @ 18:29 |
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Again, does this disk play properly on your DVD player??
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daldan
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24. December 2006 @ 18:51 |
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DVD works fine on any player.
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geburuh
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24. December 2006 @ 19:05 |
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Go to: www.free-codecs.com
fabDecrypter 3.0.5.0
If this movie is worse than ATTACK FORCE the encryption may be for your own protection
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PacMan777
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25. December 2006 @ 02:49 |
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daldan
DVDFab Decrypter 3.0.5.0 (updated 12/14/06) is the free decryption tool being supplied by DVDIdle. http://www.dvdidle.com/free.htm Idle's retail apps DVDFab Platinum and Gold carry the same version number. You can check out their entire line on the product page. http://www.dvdidle.com/products.htm DVDIdle also has the Region Free that's similar to AnyDVD.
The free RipIt4Me is located at http://www.ripit4me.org .
AnyDVD can be found at http://www.slysoft.com and there is a 3 week full function trial.
Shrink and Decrypter can be found here at AD and many other forums. I noticed a retail site saying they had a new Shrink, but I'm not buying a pig in a poke.
For those new to this, AnyDVD is a driver type decryption software. It decrypts on the fly so your recording apps aren't bothered by the encryption and copy protection on the factory DVD video. It does conflict with a few apps on occasion. It includes a ripper to record (burn) decrypted files to the HDD. AnyDVD is both a driver and ripper type decrypter depending on how you want to use it. AnyDVD's ripper also incorporates FixVTS to help with file compliance problems caused by copy protections like Sony's Arccoss. The last time I used DVD Region+CSS Free, it was a driver type decryption program. I've not heard of them adding a ripper. DVDFab Decrypter and RI4M and the others are mostly ripper style decrypters. I use AnyDVD with DVD Decrypter (Cracking - Off) for a ripper setup. If I need FixVTS with this setup, I have to use it manually.
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25. December 2006 @ 03:44 |
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Originally posted by geburuh:
Go to: www.free-codecs.com
fabDecrypter 3.0.5.0
If this movie is worse than ATTACK FORCE the encryption may be for your own protection
It;s about the same, sometimes it's just not worth it to set down and try to figure out some of these movies, but I guess it's not really about the bad movies that suck, it's figuring out the security
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PacMan777
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25. December 2006 @ 04:39 |
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Most of us aren't figuring out the security. We're just trying to figure out which software to use. The choices aren't that many. The problem is some support is slower to update than others. Even the best software gets caught and needs a quick update occasionally. We know that Disney and Sony are 2 of the more difficult lines of DVD releases for copy protection. With those you keep the software up to date or wait for an app that will do the job. No secret and nothing we can do but wait or search for another app that is up to date if the one we have isn't working. I've already stated what most of the knowledgable forum members already know. Currently the top retail app is AnyDVD. The top freeware for a while has been DVDFab Decrypter, but with the introduction of RipIt4Me with the suite of top freeware, the RI4M is stealing the spotlight.
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PacMan777
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25. December 2006 @ 04:56 |
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The problem most beginners face is not knowing what they're up against, CSS encryption plus copy protection. The new copy protection is in addition to the encryption with some of Sony's being more difficult. Add to that the beginner doesn't have a good knowledge of how to use the software or what the software is actually doing. Just about all the old decryption software can easily handle the CSS encryption. That was the original encryption and is still in use. The new copy protections are for fooling the software into seeing the video files as non-compliant so the software won't process the files. Each time the studios release a new protection scheme, the support teams have to address the change. People who can use Decrypter and do PSL files for decryption can do most all movies. Once the decryption has been done and the copy protection bypassed the files can be ripped to the hard drive. Those files may still not play because they appear noncompliant to the recording software. That's where apps like FixVTS and VobBlanker come in to process the files to make them DVD compliant. Up to date software such as AnyDVD gets the job done without user input. Some of the other software does it from no input to a lot making it either easy or difficult. With the more difficult comes the failures and some software just doesn't do the job, adding to the problems. You don't need to listen to me, I'm no guru. But when a large group of people have been doing the same thing, backing up DVDs, for a long time and come to the same conclusion on which software is doing the best, then it's time the beginners start to listen. Sony is no big deal if you use the right software and know what you're doing. They may slow you down, but the good support teams will get any new copy protection problems solved in short order. At least they have in the past.
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25. December 2006 @ 06:06 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
Most of us aren't figuring out the security. We're just trying to figure out which software to use. The choices aren't that many. The problem is some support is slower to update than others. Even the best software gets caught and needs a quick update occasionally. We know that Disney and Sony are 2 of the more difficult lines of DVD releases for copy protection. With those you keep the software up to date or wait for an app that will do the job. No secret and nothing we can do but wait or search for another app that is up to date if the one we have isn't working. I've already stated what most of the knowledgable forum members already know. Currently the top retail app is AnyDVD. The top freeware for a while has been DVDFab Decrypter, but with the introduction of RipIt4Me with the suite of top freeware, the RI4M is stealing the spotlight.
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ktowncopy
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25. December 2006 @ 06:14 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
Most of us aren't figuring out the security. We're just trying to figure out which software to use. The choices aren't that many. The problem is some support is slower to update than others. Even the best software gets caught and needs a quick update occasionally. We know that Disney and Sony are 2 of the more difficult lines of DVD releases for copy protection. With those you keep the software up to date or wait for an app that will do the job. No secret and nothing we can do but wait or search for another app that is up to date if the one we have isn't working. I've already stated what most of the knowledgable forum members already know. Currently the top retail app is AnyDVD. The top freeware for a while has been DVDFab Decrypter, but with the introduction of RipIt4Me with the suite of top freeware, the RI4M is stealing the spotlight.
I think you know what I meant, I've been diong this a long time myself, yes the forum does help on which app to use alot of times but sometimes people forget what this forum is about, getting the information out there to help others. Some people get carried away with their own self instead of explaining the answers to other people's questions. Some have been a great help (as I have been keeping up with these forums)Some have actually been real smarta**** with explaining to others that may not have the knowlegde .. Let's just keep trying to help each other instead of trying to look like a big shot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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25. December 2006 @ 06:22 |
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Very well put ktown, you made more sense than some addicts I ran into. Unfortunatly some tend to forget that one time or another they were noobs also.
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PacMan777
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27. December 2006 @ 01:10 |
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I guess you meant me trying to be a big shot since you were quoting me.
The last statement you qouted needs to be taken in context with the rest of the posts I made in the thread.
No, I didn't read your mind. The thread was about Sony copy protection. It's not about how we feel about each other. As I tried to get across in my posts, Sony isn't very difficult if the right software is used. I've seen people have it "down pat" in a few tries when using the suggestions made here at AD. Forgive me if I appeared to be trying to be a big shot by repeating common knowledge, especially since I stated I got the info from the knowledgable folks here at AD.
Since you appear not to want me on this thread and I'm not here to argue, I'll just unsubscribe.
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27. December 2006 @ 03:24 |
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Sony is no big deal if you use the right software and know what you're doing
This is true, software vendors get the updates out fast enough to handle the protections. AD members point others in the right direction as soon as tough to crack movies come up. Whether you use free or pay, movies can be backed up. You need some patience and you will get the job done. AD provides guides that will show all how to use the software. AnyDVD is the easiest of all nothing to do but sit back. RipIt4Me has put ease into importing/creating PSL files and FixVTS will cleanup. DVDFab will rip great and VobBlanker will get rid of the suspect cells.
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27. December 2006 @ 04:55 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
ktowncopy
I guess you meant me trying to be a big shot since you were quoting me.
The last statement you qouted needs to be taken in context with the rest of the posts I made in the thread.
No, I didn't read your mind. The thread was about Sony copy protection. It's not about how we feel about each other. As I tried to get across in my posts, Sony isn't very difficult if the right software is used. I've seen people have it "down pat" in a few tries when using the suggestions made here at AD. Forgive me if I appeared to be trying to be a big shot by repeating common knowledge, especially since I stated I got the info from the knowledgable folks here at AD.
Since you appear not to want me on this thread and I'm not here to argue, I'll just unsubscribe.
You can take it how you want, whether you are in this thread or not--I could care less. I didn't say you read my mind, I said i think you know what I meant by my last reply. You started out arrogant by your first sentence in your reply, if your not trying to figure it out I would assume you don't even need to use this forum, but since you are in it I assume you must need a little help every once in a while, just like the rest of us. Just chill out and remeber , this is a help forum, not a bitch session
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27. December 2006 @ 11:10 |
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sorry about the delay in response. but the problem was just my firmware. i cant believe i overlooked that one, it was such an easy fix. but thanks to everyone for your help.
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28. December 2006 @ 06:21 |
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Originally posted by ktowncopy:
You can take it how you want, whether you are in this thread or not--I could care less.
- i could care, i follow this and countless other threads (whether i contribute or not). And in this one i see nothing except a normal thread where you yourself seem to have taken offence to something (that i already said i can't see)..
Originally posted by ktowncopy:
but since you are in it I assume you must need a little help every once in a while, just like the rest of us. Just chill out and remeber , this is a help forum, not a bitch session
- all of us do indeed need a little help now and then, even me (no i don't regard myself as a big shot either, i just rarely need help myself, when i do i nearly always figure it out for myself, that's just what i do, i think nothing of it whatsoever, i just live on the internet). Anyways, you seem to have taken offence to quite what i don't know, but let's get this thread back on track, it's proving quite a useful thread for a fair few people, maybe moreso than the endless threads on <insert latest movie title here>..
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28. December 2006 @ 06:34 |
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no, I did not take offense at all. i enjoy helping others unlike some of the other comments that people make toward each other. We should all be here to help , not sound like we know everything. Just don't like to see someone talk down on the other. Anyway we are back on track !!! Thanks
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