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26. January 2007 @ 16:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Sony isnt making any money on there consoles yet they are losing about $100 on each one sold!!
Every console maker lose money in the beginning because company have to cover cost of what it took to make the system & some etc..stuff, they get most of there money like a year or two down the road so Sony or Microsoft losing money is a normal thing.

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26. January 2007 @ 18:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes the xbox did lose money at launch but they were losing about 70? while I believe sony is losing over 200 at launch.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/sony-...ot-on-each-ps3/

Don't know how reliable engadget is

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26. January 2007 @ 21:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
even with the reported losses per ps3 sold im sure the ps2 department is more than able to compensate for said losses. it was yet again the most successful console for the holiday season topping the ps3/360/wii/gamecube/xbox. it also apparently had 4 of the top 10 selling games for the month of december. not bad for a 6 year old system. sony isn't pushing just one console like microsoft and nintendo. note, by console i don't mean handhelds...

call me crazy, but i think sony is in quite the position right now and they still have another real killer app due out that'l continue the longevity of the ps2(GodofWar2). hopefully now we'll start to see some real killer apps on the ps3.

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even with the reported losses per ps3 sold im sure the ps2 department is more than able to compensate for said losses. it was yet again the most successful console for the holiday season topping the ps3/360/wii/gamecube/xbox. it also apparently had 4 of the top 10 selling games for the month of december. not bad for a 6 year old system. sony isn't pushing just one console like microsoft and nintendo. note, by console i don't mean handhelds...

call me crazy, but i think sony is in quite the position right now and they still have another real killer app due out that'l continue the longevity of the ps2(GodofWar2). hopefully now we'll start to see some real killer apps on the ps3
Lets not forget PSP sales which has been very good.Nintendo DS is out saleing PSP but PSP has sold very well and will pickup more steam when Sony has there remote mode working fully with the PS3.Sony is making profit off the PSP also.
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29. January 2007 @ 06:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yup, the PSP is not a failure like most people would have you believe.

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29. January 2007 @ 08:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by hade:
even with the reported losses per ps3 sold im sure the ps2

call me crazy, but i think sony is in quite the position right now and they still have another real killer app due out that'l continue the longevity of the ps2(GodofWar2). hopefully now we'll start to see some real killer apps on the ps3.

I often wondered why they didn't wait and put God of War2 out on the PS3. It would of helped their console sales emmencely. It's one of my favorite button smasher games of all time. I think they dropped the ball on this one.
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I often wondered why they didn't wait and put God of War2 out on the PS3. It would of helped their console sales emmencely. It's one of my favorite button smasher games of all time. I think they dropped the ball on this one.
I read that the reason why because the dev's for GOW had already started on GOW2 right after they finish the first one because they had alot of ideas from the first game they wanted to carry over to the second game.Plus the Devs was not sure when the release date for the PS3.But to be honest i think GOW 3 going to be a killer-app on PS3 plus this give them more time to figure out more about the cell.

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hola everyone. if anyne wonders where ive been for a week on on a two week vacation in puerto rico. i probably cant post much till the 2nd week of february. its really fun here, ive been to a several million year old cave, scuba diving (reefs are beautiful), and horse riding through jungle and on the beach. the beaches are nice too, wonderful hills of volcanic rock covered in foliage, and sands of coruse to fine minerals.

k so on topic, has sony release any good news about its ps3 plans? and have games that are really wanted further delayed again for a third or fouth time?

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66

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It just dawn on me but how can you call the Wii innovative went Nintendo made the same kind of system in the Super nes with the power glove & powerpad.




Microsoft: Ps3 cant do 60fps on 1080p. Guess what they were WRONG!!!!!
(11/19/05 - 9/19/06) Microsoft: Sony's 1080p support on PS3 is all Hype and Not Needed.
(9/20/06) Microsoft: Xbox 360 to add 1080p support.

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The power glove and the power pad were for the NES, actually, but I guess you're right they are the exact same as the Wii controller(s)...


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k so on topic, has sony release any good news about its ps3 plans? and have games that are really wanted further delayed again for a third or fouth time?
PS3 price cuts are already in the rumor mill, and Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter has been delayed, but only in the UK. (I think)
That's all I got right now.

edit** Saints Row is coming to ps3.

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10. February 2007 @ 08:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
look at this from an interview with SplitFish, an adapter maker.

"We have overcome the major difficulties of the controller force feedback motors affecting the motion control. This allows the MotionFX to operate smoothly when combined with the Sony controller. Television sensor strips are not required.

To date, we have filed 4 critical patents on our various adapter technologies and will continue to leverage these technologies on choice consoles only. Our fan base has asked us to support the Nintendo Wii however based on our own internal studies we report that the Wii has slightly more performance than a GameCube but less than the original xBox.

The Wii is therefore unable to support our adapter technologies.

It?s clear that as the Playstation 3 now plays over 5,000 PS1, PS2 and PS3 game titles and continues to ramp up its library of true high definition games the PS3 will dominate the future of mature games. SplitFish will therefore continue working with Sony consoles for several new technologies, including our multi-directional and non-uniform force-feed back technology that improves on the older style force feedback vibration systems."

see what i said? more proof wii is lesser than an xbox. just a far different 2part controller.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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10. February 2007 @ 09:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In other news, more revelant to games, the results of the AIAS Awards were announced.

warning: PDF!
http://www.interactive.org/content/pdf/AIAS_10th_IAA_WINNNERS.pdf

Or, for the shorter version,
Game of the year - Gears of War
Outstanding Innovation in Gaming -- Wii Sports
Outstanding Innovation in Animation -- Gears of War
Outstanding Achievement in Art Direction -- Gears of War
Outstanding Achievement in Soundtrack -- Guitar Hero 2
Outstanding Achievement in Original Music Composition -- LocoRoco
Outstanding Achievement in Sound Design -- Call of Duty 3
Outstanding Male Character Performance -- Gears of War
Outstanding Female Character Performance -- Viva Pinata
Outstanding Achievement in Story and Character Development -- The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Outstanding Achievement in Gameplay Engineering -- Wii Sports
Outstanding Achievement in Online Play -- Gears of War
Outstanding Achievement in Visual Engineering -- Gears of War
Outstanding Achievement in Game Design -- Wii Sports
Sports Game of the Year -- Tony Hawk Project 8
Strategy Game of the Year -- Company of Heroes
First-Person Action Game of the Year -- Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
Fighting Game of the Year -- Fight Night Round 3
Racing Game of the Year -- Burnout Revenge
Role-Playing Game of the Year -- Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Children's Game of the Year -- LocoRoco
Action/adventure Game of the Year -- Gears of War
Handheld Game of the Year -- Nintendo Brain Age
Family Game of the Year -- Guitar Hero 2
Downloadable Game of the Year -- Bookworm Adventures
Mobile Game of the Year -- Orcs and Elves
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i cant say i much got into gears of war myself. it seemed repetative the ways you attacked. i wonder if ut3 will grab goty next year. epic has a nac for producing gotys, sony need to buy some exclusive from them soon. this delay sh*t blows. the ps3 needs more games badly. and only 1-3 good ones are due before fall/winter..

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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10. February 2007 @ 21:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ooooo children's game of the year is on the PSP and not DS or wii....ooooooooo.

PS3...it only does everything(that Sony allows it to)
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18. February 2007 @ 16:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i just got word that motorstorm is 1p only. im pi$$ed at sony for having so many good 1-2p games, and so many sub-par 4p games. this is bullsh**. im disliking my ps3 by .25-.5% more every day. current rating, 75%. they need to step up and come out with more, because these games are boring now, and the good ones, or even ok ones, are sungle player or only two. wtf.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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i just got word that motorstorm is 1p only. im pi$$ed at sony for having so many good 1-2p games, and so many sub-par 4p games. this is bullsh**. im disliking my ps3 by .25-.5% more every day. current rating, 75%. they need to step up and come out with more, because these games are boring now, and the good ones, or even ok ones, are sungle player or only two. wtf.
I'm feeling the same way my friend i found out that VF5 not going to have online...WTF lol Sony is loseing me everyday also i've been close to tradeing my system in on a 360 because i sold mine like 3 months ago.But the only thing stoping me is i love my Blu-ray.




Microsoft: Ps3 cant do 60fps on 1080p. Guess what they were WRONG!!!!!
(11/19/05 - 9/19/06) Microsoft: Sony's 1080p support on PS3 is all Hype and Not Needed.
(9/20/06) Microsoft: Xbox 360 to add 1080p support.

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i know by fall the ps3 will own 5x more than it does. but right now its like a toddler learning life, and it will build over time. but i dont get why all these games dont have internet play. like thps. how hard is it to add more than 2 players in a 2p game, and how hard is it to incorperate basic online? probably because sony is making devs host servers on their own and some just dont want to put the cash to it when they get nothing out of it. dev'ing is expensive, and saving money is what its about these days..sad but true.


edit: heres some news

ps3 oblivion to shine bright next to 360's
http://www.ps3news.ca/02182007/10/report..._speed_graphics

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66

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18. February 2007 @ 18:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
People need to just give the PS3 sometime.....

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18. February 2007 @ 20:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah, they do. the wii is going thru the same thing kind of. i read an article about the wii and ps3 being in game droughts, meaning they both have little lined up in terms of releases, let alone blockbusters, untill summer if not fall.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66

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19. February 2007 @ 06:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Didn't i hear that they were having problems with oblivions load time due to the slower speed of the 2x BRD drive? How did they short that out and even make it better

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Originally posted by xyqo:
Didn't i hear that they were having problems with oblivions load time due to the slower speed of the 2x BRD drive? How did they short that out and even make it better
Probably by using the hard drive or posting the same data in multiple places on the disk.
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Originally posted by xyqo:
How did they short that out and even make it better
They put redundant data all over the disc so the laser wouldn't have to move that much. The time saved was greater than if the laser would've had to travel to the beginning or end of the disk.

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19. February 2007 @ 08:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and repetative data possible with none oter than bluray, FTW.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66

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when u buy the ps3 you are making a 4-6 year investment.

put it this way when the ps2 came out it was crap in my opinion but in one year it was rocking and taking the gaming world by storm

with the ps3 of course it is going to be on par with the 360 but the 360 has got almost to its full potential but with the ps3 the possibilities are endless.

Wii Innovation
Ps3 Multi-Media Power house
360 Cheaper weaker version of ps3

Remember his is not hattin on you other "fan boys" or other ad members but its jus my two cents and i think most people agree with me
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19. February 2007 @ 12:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
But Sony need to really crack down on these third party companys they doing what the hell they want, how you not going to have online play for VF5.I wonder if Def Jam Icon going to have online play if not i'm going to raise hell because this is nextgen online play should be a must on any game now.I dont care if online is used just to download extra content all games should have it.




Microsoft: Ps3 cant do 60fps on 1080p. Guess what they were WRONG!!!!!
(11/19/05 - 9/19/06) Microsoft: Sony's 1080p support on PS3 is all Hype and Not Needed.
(9/20/06) Microsoft: Xbox 360 to add 1080p support.

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