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Minion
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2. January 2005 @ 13:44 |
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joep42: I think you are going to have to Redo your project and Re-render it if you want to Change the Video file in that way...
That is why it is allways good to Preview your Project fully before you render it to make sure the Effects ,Transitions and Clips are all in the Right places and acting properly.....
Meridium: Hi, You should be able to capture to AVI format at 352+240 at 29.976fps or 14.985fps without much Problem and without Dropping too many frames if you capture useing either the HuffYUV codec or Uncompressed AVI but your problem will come in with the ammount of Disk space you are going to need...
When captureing to Uncompressed AVI at 352+240 and 29.976fps you will need about 300mb per minute of Video and about 175mb per minute with the HuffYUV codec.....
Another problem you are going to have is encodeing the Captured files to Mpeg-2 Format for DVD because Your PC is So slow it might take 24 to 72 hours to encode a full movie to DVD format ,I also do not know of any DVD authoring Programs that will Run on a 666mhz CPU but I suggest you try these Programs and see how they work out for you....
"Virtual-Dub"-For Captureing and doing Basic editing..
"Tmpgenc" - For encodeing to Mpeg-2 DVD format...
"Tmpgenc DVD Author"-For authoring the mpeg-2 file to dvd....
You might also Consider Saveing up about $150 to $200 and Upgradeing your Lowly Machine to a More modern PC at about 2.0ghz+....I actually Just Bought a PC on E-Bay for $200 US that has 512mb DDR Ram and a 120GB HD and a 8X DVD Burner with WinXP Pro for $200 US and all it needs is a Athlon XP CPU up to a 3200+...I also Bought a Barebones PC for $130 which was a PC Case with a 400W PSU and a Motherboard and an Athlon XP 2700+ CPU....
You can get really good deals these days on PC Parts because a Lot of Manufacturers are Clearing out all Older Technology Like ATA Hard Drives and Socket 478 and Sochet A Motherboards and DDR ram and AGP Video cards to make way for the New PCI Express Vid Cards and SATA Hard Drives and Socket 775 and 774 Motherboards and DDR 2 and DDR 3 Ram so you can Find a Lot of This Stuff dirt cheap especially on E-Bay right now as a Lot of Poeple have there old stuff for sale cuz they got new stuff for XMas.....
Cheers
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hgomez
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2. January 2005 @ 16:39 |
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Hi.. I am new to this.. I am trying to copy some VHS to DVD . What I am doing is connecting my VHS to my tv tunner card.. capturing it with the software included (MSIPVS INTERVIDEO). I am capturing it in Mpeg format.. But when using Nero to burn the movie, It starts "transcoding" and it takes a lot of time to burn it to DVD ( 4 hours for 2 hours movie or so ). the problem is that the quality is like 80% of the VHS. What am I doing wrong ? Minion.. what would be the best method you recomend to transfer VHS-DVD ?
I have Celeron 1.8 Ghz, DVD Drive, Sony DVD burner. 40 Gig Hard Drive.
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meridium
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2. January 2005 @ 17:32 |
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hello Minion, thank you for taking the time to reply to my posting.
i fully intend to get up to the top rung of the ladder in good time, but dont have the finances at this point.
what i was and still am looking for is a simple way to get my hi8 and vhs info onto cd or dvd to share with family and friends.
the quality is really not important its the content and the joy it will bring to others that is important.
i see so many offers on the internet that say one can record a whole dvd onto a single cd. are these offers just fantasy?
i have had cd's over the last 10 years that contained movies and video type material that were perfectly watchable.
this is the kind of solution that i am looking for. quick and easy?
i know that its a real step back in thinking when you are so advanced in this area but sometimes its simple solutions that solve problems.
if i were single with a bit of money i would probably spend half my life playing with computers and experimenting with cutting edge technology. as it is i have limited time and finances.
i spend much of my time collecting old computers and making up packages for underprivileged kids. its very rewarding.
i would love to be able to send cd's (maybe dvd's) to many people with basic video content, both for educational and social reasons.
i dont need to edit this material in any way (but would if there was a simple method) i just want to get it onto discs and distribute it.
its like the old addage about the type of transport one uses... its not the cost of the trip but whether one actually arrives that is important.
i really admire the banter that is going on in this thread and am somewhat envious of the technical knowledge carried by members, especially yourself. however i am sure that there is a simple and effective way to transfer basic video material from vhs and hi8 onto cd and dvd. this is what i am looking for.
having spent some time looking around i think this thread is my best chance to find that solution.
as you said there are many cheap bargains available right now, especially on ebay. this gives poor persons the opportunity to own computers and video cameras etc for the first time in their lives.
i know a lot of kids who would blow their minds to be able to borrow a video camera and then produce their own discs for distribution amongst their family and friends. (i know a loty of adults who would be pretty chuffed to be able to do the same thing).
we can always say that technology has moved on and we need to upgrade to achieve current levels of perfection but not all of us want or need that quality.
isnt there a simple way to move this data from one medium to another using older technology?
i would be really thrilled if you or some other member could come up with a solution that i will be able to share with all those using similar technology to myself.
i appreciate your efforts and hope that you or another member can solve this one for me.
**** just on another note i am considering copying the contents of these pages and colating and indexing the comtents for quick retieval of information. does anyone know if this has alreadt been done or if not would i be breaking any rukes to do this?
cheers to everyone...
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Minion
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2. January 2005 @ 18:24 |
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Hi, I didn"t Say that you Couldn"t do it!! It"s the Exact opposite, I even told you what software (Free to Try and Totally free) you can use on your System to Do it with as Long as you have the Disk Space for the Captured Files....
You could even go the Very Low Quality Route and Capture to Mpeg-1 and Make VCD"s on to CD-R"s....
For this all you would need is your Capture card and a Mpeg-1 capture program Like "InterVideo WinDVR 3.0" and a VCD Burning program Like Nero or VCD Easy....
You will be able to Capture with your Lowly System to Mpeg-1/VCD without much Problem and be able to fit about 60 minutes on a CD-R that will be Playable on most Modern DVD Players and since it used a Fairly High compression and a Low Resolution the Files will not be Very Large....
You can also Put Mpeg-1 VCD Files onto DVD and this way you can fit about 6 hours of Video on a Single DVD-R but you would have to make sure you captured the audio at 48000hz and you would need to use a DVD authoring Program like "Tmpgenc DVD Author" to put the Mpeg-1 files on to DVD....
I don"t know of any Free Mpeg capture Programs but I"m sure you like everyone else knows how to get software for free but if not you can try Demo versions of Capture programs but they might not have the Functionality you need to do what you need done....
If you are Haveing Problems with Programs recognizeing your Card or working with your Card then I suggest that you Install the "Genaric BTWinCap Drivers" which will work with All BT8*8 Based Cards and will offer the Full Functionality of the Chipset to the Card which the Native Drivers will rarely do and it should then also work with all Capture Programs...
You can get these Drivers here:
http://btwincap.sourceforge.net/
I also used to only have a Lowly 800mhz Celeron CPU with 512mb ram and a 40gb HD and a BT878A Capture Card and I was able to make VCD"s and SVCD"s without much of a problem....
Also the Capture Software should have a Setting in it were you select what Input on the Card you are useing (Either Composite or S-Video) and if the S-Video doesn"t get a Clear signal (It should) then you might have to get a S-Video to RCA Composite adapter(About $2 at Radio Shack) but I can"t see you haveing a Problem after Installing the BTWinCap Drivers (Be sure to read the Install Instructions for the BTWinCap drivers)....
Cheers
PS: If you don"t have the Disk Space for the Captured Files then You aren"t going to be able to do anything no matter how fast your CPU is or what software you are useing but as Long as you have a Few Gigs of Space you should be OK for Mpeg-1 VCD capture....
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MarlinMan
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2. January 2005 @ 22:12 |
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Congratulations to Minion (et al) for a very informative thread. I'm not new to computers or graphics - but VERY new to DV - and it's just taken me 4 days to read the entire 23 pages of this thread!
And now I'm even more daunted than before I started...
My immediate needs are to convert about 500 hours of VHS (PAL) to DVD - and then I'll see if the urge has worn off - or I want to take it seriously!
Minion - your comments would be appreciated - I have asked my computer mate to suggest a new rebuild for me - he's done several good rigs for me in the past - but freely admits that he is NOT "totally up to speed" with DVD creation.
Here's what he has suggested...
1) PM800-Pro, 800FSB, 10/100 LAN, on Board Video+ AGP Slot, S-ATA+RAID 0,1
2) Intel Pentium-4 3.2Ghz 478-pin 800Mhz FSB 1MB Cache (Prescott)
3) 2 x Western Digital 80 gig 7200rpm SATA JD
4) 4 bay 400W Midi Tower case with side & top cooling fans
5) 1.44 FDD
6) 16 x Double layer DVD burner
7) 1Gb DDR400 ram
8) Video capture card - LEADTEK WinFast TV USB II
Software - not sure what will arrive bundled with the above - but I have Premier 6 - and downloaded every driver/codec that Minion recommended in the thread!
Minion - or anyone - please give me your comments on the above rig - and in particular the capture card. I note your preferance for Canopus product - but here in OZ - they are as rare as rocking horse manure - and considerable more expensive!
Greetings from Downunder - and I look forward to your reply.
MarlinMan
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meridium
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2. January 2005 @ 22:51 |
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Minion,
sorry if i made it sound like i didnt understand your earlier post. i knew that you were giving me good info but i thought that i might not have made myself clear about the miniscule size and quality that i was willing to accept in the processing.
ihave two projects in my mind:
1. to read this and other internet info and get myself educated in the video/dvd processing game (for personal pleasure and family benefits).
2. to find a quick, cheap method of getting video data onto CD's to distribute to persons without adequate funding for todays technology.
90% of the systems i build for underpriveleged kids only have a CD player. these are the persons who i am targeting at this point.
i had already accessed the driver you referred to (bt878) but i am still having trouble getting it to work successfully in my own rig. i might knock up a seperate machine just to experiment with. there is so much crap loaded on my machine i am amazed that it even boots up each day.
i will play around with all your suggestions and see how i go. if i stub my toe i will call out for help again.
incidently i would like to get the other board working if possible (avermedia mv-300, bt866). any advise or ideas about drivers etc on that one?
thanks again for your time and advise...
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Minion
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3. January 2005 @ 01:38 |
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MarlinMan: That system would serve you well but Can I make a few Suggestions on your system that Might save you some Money and Make things a Little easier??
Firstly you Might be Better Off getting a Northwood P-4 than a Prescot for a couple reasons..One is that the Prescot is a Much Hotter running CPU than the Northwood because it has about 25 million more Circuts in the CPU to run the Extra L2 Cache and uses a Higer Voltage But it doesn"t Perform any better in Benchmarks than the Northwood even with the 1MB L2 cache....I have my 2.6ghz 800mhz FSB HT Northwood Clocked at 3.1ghz and it doesn"t even break 38C on idle and Benchmarks as good as a Prescot 3.06ghz CPU but without the Heat....
You should also consider getting a Motherboard that supports Dual Chanell DDR because haveing Dual Chanell Ram doubles the Ram speed and Bandwidth so you can get your DDR 400 Running at 800MHZ or even 1.0ghz if you get good Overclocking Ram which makes all the Differance in the World wspecially when running to Memory Hungry Editing and Encodeing Programs...
The PM800 Chipset doesn"t Support Dual Channel DDR so if you can look for a Motherboard that uses a Intel 865Pe or an Intel 875 Chipset then you would have a Motherboard that has all of the Overclocking Features you could ever want and support Dual Chanell DDR....
Another Thing i would suggest is to get a Bigger HD for Captured Files Like a 160GB or a 200GB and you Can keep a 60gb or 80gb for your Main Drive as when Captureing to AVI at the Highest Quality your Video Files can Take up as Much as 500mb to 1000mb per Minute of Video so a 80BG drive might only hold 1.5 or 2.0 hours of Video when Captureing to a Low Compression AVI format....
Another Thing is you should Stay away from USB Capture devices as they are Notorously unreliable and are Ridden with Quality Issues and Sync Problems among other Things....
I suggest that if you can"t get a high End Capture device Like a Canopus or Matrox Capture device you get a PCI capture card that uses a 10Bit decoder Chip as they are the Best Quality analogue Capture Chips for the Consumer Market available Right now...
I just did a Little search on E-Bay for you to see if there are any Canopus Devices down under and I found this one ...
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=175&item=5152946755&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Cheers
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Abit IS7
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Zalman CNPS7000-CU Cooler(Modded with 50cfm Fan)
XFX Gforce 6600GT 128mb GDDR3 (500/1000)
Pinnacle DV500 ADVC Editing Card
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MarlinMan
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3. January 2005 @ 04:06 |
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Minion - you certainly don't dissapoint!
Thank you very much for all that... I'll start doing battle with the ebay seller - and see what happens...
Should I be concerned that the Canopus unit is "slightly second hand"? (bit like Slightly pregnant!)
I seem to remember you mentioning (favorably) the ProLink PixelView XCapture card - wouldthat be an option with this rig?
Again - Many thanks & Regards...
MarlinMan
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Minion
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3. January 2005 @ 12:38 |
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Hi, No you should have a problem with a Used ADVC-100 as they should last forever if Properly Cared For...
Cheers
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XFX Gforce 6600GT 128mb GDDR3 (500/1000)
Pinnacle DV500 ADVC Editing Card
RaidMax Scorpio ATX Case + 5 Led
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dragon424
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3. January 2005 @ 20:23 |
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Hi Minion, As a continuing "Newbie" I wish to ask your advice again. About 2 months ago you advised me to purchase a DVD recorder because my main goal was to convert a large number of aging VHS tapes to DVDs. I have been watching the market rather than buying because there seemed to be some break throughs starting to occur. One of these tech changes is the ability todo a direct conversion from VHS tape to a DVD disk without using a computer. Sony recently came out with their VRD-VC10 DVDirect DVD Recorder which can be used alone or in conjunction with your computer if editing is desired. I believe Pioneer has introduced a similar item. Do you believe this is an appropriate direction for someone like me (non-computer literate)? Have you heard about the Sony and/or do you know if it is a good product. It will also do "Double Layer" DVD burning. Your advice is and has been greatly appreciated.
Thanks again,
dragon
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Minion
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3. January 2005 @ 20:38 |
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Well All DVD Recorders will let you Record from VHS to DVD without a Computer...I actually do not think there is a way to do it with a Computer and a DVD recorder....
A DVD Recorder is Basicly the Same as a VCR but it uses DVD"s so you Just hook your VCR up to the DVD Recorder and Record away...If the VHS Tapes are Retail VHS tapes you will need to get a Video Stabilizer to remove the Macrovision Copy protections....
So "Yes" you should get one if you want to do quick and easy VHS to DVD Transfers...I don"t believe it is Nescessarry to get a Dual Layer recorder because the Blank Dual Layered DVD"s are between $10 and $15 each were you can get regular single Layered DVD"s for about 0.25c each in Bulk.....
Cheers
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dragon424
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3. January 2005 @ 22:47 |
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Thanks Minion for such a quick response. I appreciate your guidance and advice. I agree about the double layer DVDs. I could buy many of the tapes inthe DVD format for the cost of the blank Double Layer DVDs. These are all retail VHS tapes. Some as old as 25 to 26 years.
I am somewhat confused about the need for a "Video Stabilizer." None of the mfrs. literature mention this issue, but I believe You. Where would this piece of gear go? I guess it has to be connected in before the recorder. Is it simple or is it over my head? Again, I ask for your guidance and wisdom.
This note has been delayed about 2 hours because my cable company was down for repairs.
Many thanks,
dragon
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MarlinMan
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3. January 2005 @ 23:05 |
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Thanks again Minion
I've placed a bid on the ADVC-100!
MarlinMan
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Minion
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4. January 2005 @ 00:12 |
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XFX Gforce 6600GT 128mb GDDR3 (500/1000)
Pinnacle DV500 ADVC Editing Card
RaidMax Scorpio ATX Case + 5 Led
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meridium
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4. January 2005 @ 00:50 |
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if anyone following this thread has any info on drivers for avermedia mv-300, bt866 video encoder board, i would appreciate the feedback.
i have two other cards that i cannot get to work consistantly and am hoping that this one will solve my dilemna.
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4. January 2005 @ 06:20 |
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Purchase CopyThis! Digital Video Enhancer and Duplicator Model CT-1 made by SIMA for $69.00 US, at FRY's Electronics. Can be purchased at any major electronics store. Maybe bestbuy, Compusa or Radio Shack.
I backed up another full copy protected VHS. But this time I connected the enhancer in between my vhs player and Digital camcorder. And copied the movie into Hi8 8mm tape and then connected my camcorder with the recorded movie to the external writer, HP dvd dc5000 purchased for 199.00. The result is DVD quality movie. Outstanding.
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hgomez
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7. January 2005 @ 10:59 |
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dragon424
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7. January 2005 @ 15:33 |
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Hi Minion, Just a short thank you for your continuing support for this thread and especially for me. I have been outbid on the two items you gave me, but I now know what to look for and hope to win one of the auctions in the next few days.
Many thanks again,
Dragon
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eddude
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9. January 2005 @ 18:43 |
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Hi, I'm a newb. WOW! Great information in this thread. Minion, you are the best! I just ordered a Voyetra Turtle Beach Video Advantage card PCI. http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/vidadv/producthome.asp My budget wouldn't allow a Canopus product. I was wondering if anyone has used it or has any comments. The product looks perfect for want I want to do. I currently have a Dazzle DVC80 which works fine but it captures only at 320x240 and my dvd looks grainy and ugly.
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Minion
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9. January 2005 @ 21:19 |
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Hi ,That Card looks like it has a Lot of Features and it uses a 10 Bit decoder Chip so it should Produce fairly good Quality but if you want to capture the best quality with that Card you should Capture to a Low Compression AVI format which will require a Lot of Disk Space, Like anywere from 30 to 60GB Per Hour but you can Still get Pretty good quality if you capture Directly to Mpeg-2 useing a Good Mpeg capture program....
Your Card will also be Much better than the Dazzle DVC80 which is a terrorable Device and Only captures at 320+240 were this new Card should be able to Capture at Full DVD Resolution.....
Cheers
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eddude
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11. January 2005 @ 18:07 |
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Thanks for the advice! I should be getting it tomorrow and will play with it all weekend :) See how it goes...
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duftopia
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16. January 2005 @ 22:09 |
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I got myself a Sony vaio 720g with gigapocket and want to make some DVD spoofs for some friends, I want to capture some dvd content and failed, i went and bought icopy2dvd but that only copys dvds using a freeware program. I cannot get clips from dvds?.
I now went to my old vhs tapes and ran across the copy protect problem AGAIN!, I cannot say how disappointed I am so far, is there a cheap software solution to this!, my rial copy of office will expire soon and I am getting hot under the collar over SONY and MS, this is highway robbery I paid over a G for the machine and I all I get is money grubbing corporations trying to suck some more hard earned moola and no solutions?
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Minion
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17. January 2005 @ 12:27 |
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You can easilly get DVD"s on to your Hard Drive with DVD Decryptor or SmartRipper and your DVD drive of course....
Captureing From VHS is a Different Story because that is an Analogue Copy Protection so you would need a Little device called a "Video stabilizer" to remove the Copy protection when Captureing....
Cheers
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XFX Gforce 6600GT 128mb GDDR3 (500/1000)
Pinnacle DV500 ADVC Editing Card
RaidMax Scorpio ATX Case + 5 Led
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duftopia
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17. January 2005 @ 13:35 |
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Well I know a program called dvdfree43 which intercepts signals from the source to traget dvd and I thought someone would have a wedge (program) that would fix the gigpocket software or maybe a firmware downgrade?
I have icopydvds2 can that help in any way?
and Thank you for the reply.
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Minion
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17. January 2005 @ 16:29 |
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If you do here:
http://www.dvddecrypter.com/
You can download DVD decryprer which will rip an DVD to your hard Drive and Remove all Copy protections....
P-4 2.6ghz (Overclocked to 3.2ghz)
Abit IS7
1gb Dual Chanell DDR 400mhz
Zalman CNPS7000-CU Cooler(Modded with 50cfm Fan)
XFX Gforce 6600GT 128mb GDDR3 (500/1000)
Pinnacle DV500 ADVC Editing Card
RaidMax Scorpio ATX Case + 5 Led
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