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19. May 2008 @ 08:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yea the 7200 series are availiable now so no wait there.
just what is the so called label flash? does it work the same way as lightscribe? do they use the same type disc????

i got about a week to make up my mind which to get. the pioneer 215dbk or the optairc 7200.

does the optairc suport nero cd/dvd scan? and do they bitset???
if/when i get my rebate from CM. if its this week im most likely get them 200 8x-r ty's from SMS $54 shipped.

its funny since ive been messing with my new build(guess i can call it my old build now)i havent been doing that much burning..
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19. May 2008 @ 08:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Labelflash uses a different type of disc than lightscribe and I haven't seen any available in my local B&M stores. They look better than LS IMHO, but I really don't want to bother with them right now.

http://labelflash.jp/

One big reason for me wanting one of these drives is to get back into Liggy and Dee firmware and support...yes bitsetting is available and they are supported in CD Speed.

http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/en/Optiarc-AD-7200A/

According to L&D they are on par with Litey's for scanning too. I can't tell you not to get the 215D as it's an awesome drive, but it is noisy and slightly slower than my 203B when overspeeding 16X media. I don't think you would be disappointed with either drive Rob and if you have room for two you might get one now and the other later. I personally like a variety instead of just one brand/make/model etc.




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19. May 2008 @ 08:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by BIGTOXY69:
I know I've come in on the tail end of the conversation but so any of the NEC/optiarc /Sony drives you mentioned Booktype ?
Sorry Toxy, I didn't see your post at the end of the page there. Liggy and Dee are on top of the modified firmware for the new NEC drives. See link above.


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19. May 2008 @ 09:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh i got the room for more..lmao. i have 2 empty spots now and 1 drive is just a dvd-rom that will come out sooner than later.

question about the Enhanced FW's. doesnt it change the drive and its natural functions? will it still be as good a drive??

gonna go take a look see at them drives again..lol

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...&page=2&bop=And

i still cant get that lightscribe litey off the list of posibilities..lol

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19. May 2008 @ 09:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I used modified firmware on my old NEC 3540a as soon as I took it out of the box and L&D are constantly updating and developing firmware for the NEC drives. I trust them just as much as codeguys for Lite-On etc. My last drive will probably be a Lite-On and I guess it will be a LS drive too a. because they are good scanners and b. I don't have an LS drive in this rig.


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isnt it #ad_buddies anyway?

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yea i just found that out. but now i cant ad buddies to stop popping up when i log in there

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You should be able to simply remove it from your favorites or just type /j #afterdawn and mark it as a favorite. I don't know what client you are using though and they are all slightly different.


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i figured it out loco. i did just that took it from my fav and added afterdawn..


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what makes the dvd-rw such bad scanning disc? i have 3 different types of RW disc all 3 get crappy scans? and thats even after a complete erase not the quick erase.
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19. May 2008 @ 14:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have no idea as I don't use them...I might have one laying around though, maybe I'll try one out.

Leaving work now, stop by best buy for Verbs, get haircut and stop by Lowes and I'll be on in about an hour and a half if you are still around.


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Originally posted by greensman:
POSTED 18. May 2008 @ 22:25

LOCO don't buy anyting yet!!! :P As usual the companies are playing games with you. DON'T ever trust the "distributing" company when it comes to what's inside. :) You honestly don't know until you find the info out for yourself. I trust Videohelp wholly when it comes to identifying the "chipset" of an ODD... ;)

7200 series

7201 series

7203 series

Take a look at those LOCO and then make your decisions.... :D

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Well it seems that VideoHelp was initially wrong with their assesment of the 7201 series drive from Sony/Optiarc/NEC!!!!! According to a VERY reliable source and NOW VideoHelp the AD-7201 drive is indeed NEC chipset and therefore something we (ODD freaks) might want to invest in... good drive hunting...

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looks like my Lite-On LH-20A1S sata drive is going south. do the Samsung optical drives work with nero quality scans? thought i might try a Samsung drive this time around




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Originally posted by LOCOENG:

One big reason for me wanting one of these drives is to get back into Liggy and Dee firmware and support...yes bitsetting is available and they are supported in CD Speed.

http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/en/Optiarc-AD-7200A/

According to L&D they are on par with Litey's for scanning too. I can't tell you not to get the 215D as it's an awesome drive, but it is noisy and slightly slower than my 203B when overspeeding 16X media. I don't think you would be disappointed with either drive Rob and if you have room for two you might get one now and the other later. I personally like a variety instead of just one brand/make/model etc.
Zo check that post out by LOCO.. ;) I've been doing some reading on the 7200 series drive and it seems they are pretty good ODD's and I'm thinking about getting one too. lol. I know.. too many already but hey... ;P

How many burns do you have on that 20A1S?? If Lite-On's are gonna "go south" that easily or quickly (guessing you don't have that many burns or scans) then I'm very disappointed. I guess we'll see what some of these new drives bring...



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3. June 2008 @ 02:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh maybe a 1000 burns or so. and at least double that for ripping/transcoding DVD/CDs thats where it seems to be going south on me the most.

looks like the Sonys with the NEC chipset would be a good drive the Plextor PX-810SA drives i have are Pioneer drives with an NEC chipset.and there still going strong after 1000 plus burns. I bet the Sonys don't booktype or support nero quality scans? but i use the DVD dash R format anyway except for the occasional Verbatim DVD+R DL

the Sonys at 45.00 you would expect them to be pretty good optical drives.

edit i don't need lightscribe so the Sony-NEC Optiarc AD-7200S would work fine . greensman help fine me the best deal you can and i will order one. i want the black face plate




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3. June 2008 @ 07:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Zoso

newegg has the best deal on it now. they even have free shipping and noone else has offered it yet with free shipping... figures i use that $30 credit and then they put it on sale with free shipping..

jump on it fast..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118012

as LOCO pointed out there is a firmwaare update that will let ya Bitset and such. from what ive found nero does suport this drive so it should be able t odo QC scans....i dont know if it will be as good as the litey's scanning, but you know how much a fanboy i am of the litey's..lol

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RedRob that is absolutely the best deal I've seen since those drives came out. ;) AND SATA to boot!!!

There you go Zo!! Jump on it fast as RedRob has said... "they're going fast...."

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I ordered mine yesterday morning before they added the free shipping...I'll call them today and get the shipping refunded. So by the end of the week I should have a new 7200S and a new 20A1L...oops, didn't tell ya 'bout that one. :) I figured as much as I've resisted getting a Litey I'd better go ahead and snatch one up.

@Zo, the Sammy will scan but you have to remove it from the registry as a blocked device...

Quote:
if you have 64bit
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Ahead\Nero Toolkit\CD Speed\CD Quality]

or if you have 32bit
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Ahead\Nero Toolkit\CD Speed\CD Quality]


and change

"Blocked"="SAMSUNG,TSST,HL-DT-ST,PLEXTOR"
That is for Vista, but XP is similar but if you need more help finding it lemme know.


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I just ordered one




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7200S and 20A1L installed and running. Made a couple of burns and this 20A1L is the loudest drive I've ever heard...sounds like my PC is prepared for take-off.


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noisey?????lol
glad to see there running for ya.

got some disturbing news and pissed off news.

the so called new VERBs. are garbage. they are actually fakes/reprints recourced out by someone else with verbatims name on it.
remember them cheap windata disc i/bigwill also had them. coded out as MCC004. wel these new verbs(new design) are the same in the one as them cheap ass windatas.
bigwill just brought it to my attention, he brought me a winda and the new verbs they look the same as far as the inner hub is. all clear nothing writen on it. you know the old verbs has what they are stamped on the inner circle. these new ones dont i will scan the 2 disc and show you what i mean. and if you look at the DIE on them. they look the same. if it wasnt for one saying windata and one saying verbatim you couldnt tell the difference.

so are the not only haven them made in india now but they are useing hte same junk as windata. i havent done any real research into this but just compairing the disc, they are identical.

so if you want to still use verbs you better go with the old style packageing if you can get them or order online and hope you get the good stuff.

as for the other news, after i post the scans of the disc, i'll be takeing the same route Mort81 has taken.
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the only thing with that creaky. these disc all say MIT on them. nothing about china, well the cake box they came in anyway.
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6. June 2008 @ 18:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if they're not burning well or scanning well for that matter it could be a bad batch. :( it happens you know. ;)

rob i'll be around later or you can PM me... i got some stuff to send you :D you'll like it... and NO creaky I'm NOT sending you something... dang shipping would kill me.... hehehe. :D

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6. June 2008 @ 19:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cincyrob:
i'll be takeing the same route Mort81 has taken.
What route is that?

Scanzzzzzzz

Now take into consideration that the burn speed selected is idiotic, but I like to do initial tests at high speed to see the results and then work my way down the scale...

MCC004 @ 20X (chosen burn speed), 14X & 18X actual max burn speed. Both burned on NEC 7200S, one with 1.Z1 and the other with 1.Z2










Notice the descrepency between DIP and CD Speed above....










I'm sticking with 1.Z1 for now. :)


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