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21. May 2008 @ 21:39 |
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I thought the PS3 was similar to the PSP, but apparently not, cuz the PSP was hacked pretty quickly. I guess Sony boosted the security and learned from their mistakes. But one thing I know is that its not impossible, and it will get hacked eventually. We just have to wait.
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samshizze
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22. May 2008 @ 00:49 |
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Now that Bluray is officially the winner. It wont be long until Bluray Burners become reasonable. Then I would think someone could figure out how to play copies. Really surprised somebody hasnt figured something out yet. Gotta hand it to Sony.
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27. May 2008 @ 13:29 |
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Originally posted by DasFox:
Originally posted by evolmindz:
just curious is this the longest a console has gone without being hacked?
Sure seems like it, LOL...
I truly can't believe that you can't make a backup copy... :(
I am easily surprised as well, but if I knew someone that could do it and would work on trying to figure it out, and I mean put 16 hours a day into it, i'd buy all the freaking equipment. The total run of 1200-1400 to do a backup is not really that expensive. I work as a retail manager, make mid 50's, and run a network/computer repair biz where I pull in another good 30 a year, plus im single with no kids so the purchase of the equipment is easy ... if anyone knows someone that is LEGIT and would like to try to figure it out but only needs the equipment, i would be willing to fork over the funds/equipment for them to test the theories of trying to get bkups to run.
Once it's figured out, then that one time investment will be WELL worth it.
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kevinduh
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29. May 2008 @ 19:05 |
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So you still CANT play games off the HDD?
What a joke...
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kevinduh
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29. May 2008 @ 19:31 |
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Sorry for the double post, but I know this guy in my school who claims he is beta testing for Ferrox and that you can currently play games off of the HDD.
He tells me that he just rents games and puts them on, but that Ferrox Iso Loader this hasn't been released to the public yet.
What are the chances that he is bullshitting?
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29. May 2008 @ 19:39 |
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Chances are 99.99 he is bull-shit-ting.
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29. May 2008 @ 20:19 |
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Originally posted by ramosfet:
Chances are 99.99 he is bull-shit-ting.
LOL ya I agree.
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30. May 2008 @ 05:33 |
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Originally posted by kevinduh:
So you still CANT play games off the HDD?
What a joke...
All i can say is easier said than done...
Fat PSP: 3.03 oe-c (will update when i have time :P)
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DasFox
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3. June 2008 @ 17:45 |
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Originally posted by okthen12:
Originally posted by kevinduh:
So you still CANT play games off the HDD?
What a joke...
All i can say is easier said than done...
4 days since the last post, please let's keep this post active with daily replies, certainly there must be someone that can bring some news to this?
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3. June 2008 @ 23:37 |
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Originally posted by DasFox:
Originally posted by okthen12:
Originally posted by kevinduh:
So you still CANT play games off the HDD?
What a joke...
All i can say is easier said than done...
4 days since the last post, please let's keep this post active with daily replies, certainly there must be someone that can bring some news to this?
THANKS
You can't honestly expect daily updates when the hacking process has been going for a year and a half no with no success. I can guarantee you that if a way to play backups ever does go public you will be able to find it on here the day it happens.
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4. June 2008 @ 06:55 |
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Originally posted by DasFox:
Originally posted by okthen12:
Originally posted by kevinduh:
So you still CANT play games off the HDD?
What a joke...
All i can say is easier said than done...
4 days since the last post, please let's keep this post active with daily replies, certainly there must be someone that can bring some news to this?
THANKS
lmao.
if daily replys is going to speed up the process then im ready to do it.
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lilskater
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4. June 2008 @ 09:11 |
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Originally posted by mub6:
Originally posted by DasFox:
Originally posted by okthen12:
Originally posted by kevinduh:
So you still CANT play games off the HDD?
What a joke...
All i can say is easier said than done...
4 days since the last post, please let's keep this post active with daily replies, certainly there must be someone that can bring some news to this?
THANKS
lmao.
if daily replys is going to speed up the process then im ready to do it.
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LMAO ya....
There is just going to be rumors and more rumors posted if u want daily progress and u dont think there arn't enough of them already... LOL We all want to read whats new in the hacking scene, but we just need to wait and hope for the best ;)
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5. June 2008 @ 00:41 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
Originally posted by DasFox:
Originally posted by okthen12:
Originally posted by kevinduh:
So you still CANT play games off the HDD?
What a joke...
All i can say is easier said than done...
4 days since the last post, please let's keep this post active with daily replies, certainly there must be someone that can bring some news to this?
THANKS
You can't honestly expect daily updates when the hacking process has been going for a year and a half no with no success. I can guarantee you that if a way to play backups ever does go public you will be able to find it on here the day it happens.
A year and a half and no success, makes me think the best cracking minds are not on the job on this one...
As far as the daily replies, well of course we don't want SPAM, just some info hopefully from an inside source somewhere that really knows something going on...
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okthen12
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5. June 2008 @ 10:41 |
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Originally posted by DasFox:
A year and a half and no success, makes me think the best cracking minds are not on the job on this one...
As far as the daily replies, well of course we don't want SPAM, just some info hopefully from an inside source somewhere that really knows something going on...
Its probably that the security is so tight this time that even the most experienced cant do nought.
The thing is there is not much info regarding this topic at the moment, i think QJ.net is the best option though if you want to keep most updated.
Fat PSP: 3.03 oe-c (will update when i have time :P)
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DasFox
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7. June 2008 @ 15:49 |
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Originally posted by okthen12:
Originally posted by DasFox:
A year and a half and no success, makes me think the best cracking minds are not on the job on this one...
As far as the daily replies, well of course we don't want SPAM, just some info hopefully from an inside source somewhere that really knows something going on...
Its probably that the security is so tight this time that even the most experienced cant do nought.
The thing is there is not much info regarding this topic at the moment, i think QJ.net is the best option though if you want to keep most updated.
QJ.net doesn't exactly look like the kind of site for cracking information, I didn't notice anything there...
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okthen12
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7. June 2008 @ 18:56 |
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Originally posted by DasFox:
Originally posted by okthen12:
Originally posted by DasFox:
A year and a half and no success, makes me think the best cracking minds are not on the job on this one...
As far as the daily replies, well of course we don't want SPAM, just some info hopefully from an inside source somewhere that really knows something going on...
Its probably that the security is so tight this time that even the most experienced cant do nought.
The thing is there is not much info regarding this topic at the moment, i think QJ.net is the best option though if you want to keep most updated.
QJ.net doesn't exactly look like the kind of site for cracking information, I didn't notice anything there...
Dude the reason there is so little hacking information is because it hasnt been hacked yet. Trust me with my psp i was always on QJ.net finding out the latest info, a very good website.
Fat PSP: 3.03 oe-c (will update when i have time :P)
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21. June 2008 @ 04:41 |
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I'm not too worried about it, I didn't buy a PS2 until the slims came out. And I didn't get a PSP until about 3 months ago. And I only got them because I knew they had strong homebrew and backup support.
I have a 360 and a Wii, and neither of them are modded.. and it's simply because neither of those two have anything that I find truly decent. Maybe I pirate a few games, but the big companies still get my money when it counts... I buy tons of peripherals, and spend all kinds of money on video games.
I can't really imagine that a company like Sony would be upset because I'll chip in $400 in PS2 hardware, but won't toss in $40+ for a game I won't play more than 6 hours.
I'll probably buy a PS3 when it becomes worth it, ie, when a piracy solution comes out AND when the PS3 builds up a decent library. The 360 has a (slightly) better game library.... even the Japanese 360 has a stronger library of titles. Oh well, it seems like this year's clear winners are going to be the handhelds :)
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21. June 2008 @ 08:43 |
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In my opinion, the Ps3 has not been hacked yet, not because of it's secrurity strenght, but because the price to play pirated games basically half the price of hyped games. This is a very basic caluculation:
- A bluray burner costs around 200-$300 (say $250 for a decent one).
- A blank Verbatim bluray costs around: $25
- Good games (eg. GTA IV) cost: $60.
- A modchip should cost around $50.
Assuming u'd burn 100 games in ur burner (there are tons of shovelware in the ps3 by the way, so one wont be burning Hulk kind games in a $25 disk).
This makes a pirated game cost basically 30$. Personnally id rather get 1 original game rather than 2 pirated games (and most people I know agree with this, as original are more resistant to hard conditions than burnt disks).
Hence there is not really a market for chips so far.
As far as I rememeber, it's the low price of media and burners that made ps2 and xbox chips popular. U can also see it in the WII, the modchip/homebrew scene is very alive because it uses regular DVDs and regular burners.
What do you think guys?
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21. June 2008 @ 10:05 |
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I agree with your cost analysis. I did the same when deciding whether to invest in a Blu-Ray burner for movies. In the case of movies it really doesn't make sense. Plus throw in the fact that there are bound to be some coasters with the newer burner tech. Burning $25 unplayable movies or games doesn't thrill me.
But, I think the mod community is trying to create an iso reader capable of simply replaying a ripped PS3 game iso. This would make the PS3 function a lot like the Evox/DVD2Xbox combo. This definitely makes the most economic sense because you save on the costs of burners, blanks, and lost coasters. This is especially attractive with the PS3 since the HDD is user-replaceable with a huge storage capacity. You can fit a lot of current gen games on a 320gb HDD.
For now, I'll just choose my games wisely and pay full price.
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21. June 2008 @ 11:45 |
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The PS3 has been out since November of 2006...think about that and let it soak in. Now i don't know about yalls "price point analysis" but i am putting all the blame/reasoning on Sony actually getting it right this time.
I think at this stage of the game we would have seen something, ANYTHING by now...so while i hope i am wrong and that you guys are right, i know i would personally be shocked if the PS3 was ever cracked. Just my 2 cents.
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21. June 2008 @ 12:25 |
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Thing is that there are a few iso's of ps3 games on torrent sites. So question is why are people puttin gthese up if noone can actually play them?
Also on dark alek's blog someone has made a comment saying that playing from hdd is possible that swhy these isos are up...
So question is if that's true why are the modders keeping it secret? And f t's not true why are people wasting time uploading isos noone can really use?
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21. June 2008 @ 15:18 |
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Originally posted by nash79:
In my opinion, the Ps3 has not been hacked yet, not because of it's secrurity strenght, but because the price to play pirated games basically half the price of hyped games. This is a very basic caluculation:
- A bluray burner costs around 200-$300 (say $250 for a decent one).
- A blank Verbatim bluray costs around: $25
- Good games (eg. GTA IV) cost: $60.
- A modchip should cost around $50.
Assuming u'd burn 100 games in ur burner (there are tons of shovelware in the ps3 by the way, so one wont be burning Hulk kind games in a $25 disk).
This makes a pirated game cost basically 30$. Personnally id rather get 1 original game rather than 2 pirated games (and most people I know agree with this, as original are more resistant to hard conditions than burnt disks).
Hence there is not really a market for chips so far.
As far as I rememeber, it's the low price of media and burners that made ps2 and xbox chips popular. U can also see it in the WII, the modchip/homebrew scene is very alive because it uses regular DVDs and regular burners.
What do you think guys?
for the Nth time...
if modding becomes an option,
they will be able to load iso's of a hardrive:
$100 super size harddrive.
$5 overnight rental
and jobs done...
@biggo: again already been mentioned a zillion times.
1) the iso's are there for when backups can be played.
2) aleks is a big fat lier
a litle bit annoyed,
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22. June 2008 @ 12:44 |
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Originally posted by mub6:
Originally posted by nash79:
In my opinion, the Ps3 has not been hacked yet, not because of it's secrurity strenght, but because the price to play pirated games basically half the price of hyped games. This is a very basic caluculation:
- A bluray burner costs around 200-$300 (say $250 for a decent one).
- A blank Verbatim bluray costs around: $25
- Good games (eg. GTA IV) cost: $60.
- A modchip should cost around $50.
Assuming u'd burn 100 games in ur burner (there are tons of shovelware in the ps3 by the way, so one wont be burning Hulk kind games in a $25 disk).
This makes a pirated game cost basically 30$. Personnally id rather get 1 original game rather than 2 pirated games (and most people I know agree with this, as original are more resistant to hard conditions than burnt disks).
Hence there is not really a market for chips so far.
As far as I rememeber, it's the low price of media and burners that made ps2 and xbox chips popular. U can also see it in the WII, the modchip/homebrew scene is very alive because it uses regular DVDs and regular burners.
What do you think guys?
for the Nth time...
if modding becomes an option,
they will be able to load iso's of a hardrive:
$100 super size harddrive.
$5 overnight rental
and jobs done...
@biggo: again already been mentioned a zillion times.
1) the iso's are there for when backups can be played.
2) aleks is a big fat lier
a litle bit annoyed,
M<ubs
Will you invest in a BR player to rip few good titles?
even downloading from the net is not a very feasible option; How long would it take to download a 25GB iso (or double in case of DL).
Personnaly speaking, I own a WII, ps2 + a good PC and Im really thinking hard whether to get a PS3 or XBox360 lately, (I dont like the Xbox controller), but if I ever consider getting a PS3, it'll be mainly with the intent to play only original games (in order to avoid the frustration :))
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22. June 2008 @ 12:51 |
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Originally posted by nash79:
Originally posted by mub6:
Originally posted by nash79:
In my opinion, the Ps3 has not been hacked yet, not because of it's secrurity strenght, but because the price to play pirated games basically half the price of hyped games. This is a very basic caluculation:
- A bluray burner costs around 200-$300 (say $250 for a decent one).
- A blank Verbatim bluray costs around: $25
- Good games (eg. GTA IV) cost: $60.
- A modchip should cost around $50.
Assuming u'd burn 100 games in ur burner (there are tons of shovelware in the ps3 by the way, so one wont be burning Hulk kind games in a $25 disk).
This makes a pirated game cost basically 30$. Personnally id rather get 1 original game rather than 2 pirated games (and most people I know agree with this, as original are more resistant to hard conditions than burnt disks).
Hence there is not really a market for chips so far.
As far as I rememeber, it's the low price of media and burners that made ps2 and xbox chips popular. U can also see it in the WII, the modchip/homebrew scene is very alive because it uses regular DVDs and regular burners.
What do you think guys?
for the Nth time...
if modding becomes an option,
they will be able to load iso's of a hardrive:
$100 super size harddrive.
$5 overnight rental
and jobs done...
@biggo: again already been mentioned a zillion times.
1) the iso's are there for when backups can be played.
2) aleks is a big fat lier
a litle bit annoyed,
M<ubs
Will you invest in a BR player to rip few good titles?
even downloading from the net is not a very feasible option; How long would it take to download a 25GB iso (or double in case of DL).
Personnaly speaking, I own a WII, ps2 + a good PC and Im really thinking hard whether to get a PS3 or XBox360 lately, (I dont like the Xbox controller), but if I ever consider getting a PS3, it'll be mainly with the intent to play only original games (in order to avoid the frustration :))
you should be able to rip the game directly to the hdd if and when the mod is available..
even if it didnt, it should take me 3 hours to download a ps3 iso with my connection....
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22. June 2008 @ 13:43 |
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Originally posted by mub6:
you should be able to rip the game directly to the hdd if and when the mod is available..
I think your assumimg this because ISO's can be run of the PSP,this is an uderstandable thought but it may be wrong.
For instance the Xbox 1 could run games of the Harddrive,the 360 cannot do this.
The PS3 in my opinion wont be hacked for a while yet as no one in the scene can really figure it out.
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