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DVD Drives for Wii & Gamecube Backups
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30. December 2007 @ 03:56 |
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hey would this dvd drive work hl-dt-st dvdram gsa-4082n its a hp thanks
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30. December 2007 @ 04:01 |
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Originally posted by jordan246:
hey would this dvd drive work hl-dt-st dvdram gsa-4082n its a hp laptop but it could be a diffrent drive plese relply I think its a lg please tell ME IF IT CAN RIP AND BURN WII GAMESS!!! and please explane in a noob way caus im not the smartes at pc thanks
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Red07
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30. December 2007 @ 06:25 |
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I have a bunch of brand new OEM Hitachi/LG GDR-8162B DVD-ROM Drives for sale- $60 each shipped U.S. Priority Mail with Delivery Confirmation in the U.S. or $80 each shipped Internationally with Priority Mail.
Each additional drive you order is only $54 each if you're in the U.S. or $64 each if you're outside the U.S..
These are brand new OEM drives (No retail box or cable), still in their plastic bags and are getting harder and harder to find, let alone in brand new condition.
I only accept PayPal and am PayPal verified. I only ship to CONFIRMED PayPal addresses.
Send me a PM if you're interested and let me know how many drives you want and where you are located. If you have any questions send me a PM as well.
No BS or scamming here, I'm just looking to make a few bucks to pay off some bills and offer you a brand new drive so you won't have to buy some old used or refurbished drive or get into a bidding war on eBay.
I will offer a $5 refund (Via PayPal) to the first 4 people who buy from me and post here in this thread that they got exactly what I advertised so others will know that this is a legit deal. Thanks.
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simoriah
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30. December 2007 @ 15:21 |
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Originally posted by jordan246:
Originally posted by jordan246:
hey would this dvd drive work hl-dt-st dvdram gsa-4082n its a hp laptop but it could be a diffrent drive plese relply I think its a lg please tell ME IF IT CAN RIP AND BURN WII GAMESS!!! and please explane in a noob way caus im not the smartes at pc thanks
Download Rawdump2.0 and try it. Probably not, but worth a shot.
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spot70
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1. January 2008 @ 21:32 |
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I have a GDR-H10N. I did not try playing with the firmware yet. I have a couple questions.
1. When the dvd drive works can windows see the disk or only Rawdump see it?
2. I tried change the mode PIO, UDMA. Can you set the UDMA number? I notice when people post the results they give the number does this make a difference?
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2. January 2008 @ 11:55 |
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What model and firmware version do you have. Please post what is listed in Rawdump.
Windows never recognizes the disc no matter what mode you are in, only Rawdump will.
The UDMA speed does not affect whether the disc can be recognized or not, only whether the drive can read it without errors. Using PIO mode is a slower older interface and as a result helps some drives read the discs better. Setting a different DMA mode is likely to not make any difference.
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robgrm
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2. January 2008 @ 12:22 |
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Not sure why anyone would spend 60+ dollars on a DVD reader that only months ago cost new $17. I understand they are getting hard to find, but you don't have to use a DVD drive to backup a WII game. If you have a WiiKey, simply use the DVD backup util and an SDGecko card (about $12).
I already had an SD card laying around, so I spent $12 on the SDGecko and simply use the backup utility on the config disk. This lets me makes backups of any WII disk. It takes a little over an hour to do.
Total cost was just the SKGecko card for $12. If you prefer, there is a hard wire Gecko solution you can do for free if you want to do a little wiring. I figured I'd just spend the $12. But I don't know why anyone would want to spend over $50 buying a discontinued DVD reader that you don't need to back up WII disks.
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click123
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2. January 2008 @ 15:08 |
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I have a Fujitsu Amilo laptop with a HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T10N ATA
drive in it and i can dump wii disks with friidump-0.3.0-Win32.
I have copyed one game and burnt it on to a dvd with Nero7 all seems
ok but have not tested it as sill waiting for wiikey chip to get here
when it gets here and i have fitted it i will try it and let you all
know if it works or not. I can see no reason why it will not work thouth !!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
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bahhrito6
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3. January 2008 @ 16:01 |
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Originally posted by bahhrito6:
I would like to add that the MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-857E that comes equipped in the 15" 2.2 dual core Macbook Pro works as well.
This was an error on my part. This drive works for burning, but I as of yet have not had any luck ripping. Sorry for the error.
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Red07
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3. January 2008 @ 22:34 |
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I think people would rather use a separate DVD-ROM rather than put wear and tear on thier Wii drive. Just getting another DVD-ROM drive would be a lot easier than replacing your Wii drive if it should wear out/fail.
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Red07
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3. January 2008 @ 22:38 |
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uou,
Add another GDR-8160B drive to the list of failures.
GDR-8160B
HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8160B0013 - failure
I think that puts the final nail in the coffin as far as GDR-8160B drives go, as I don't think there's anymore firmware versions to try out.
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spot70
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3. January 2008 @ 22:43 |
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Originally posted by uou:
What model and firmware version do you have. Please post what is listed in Rawdump.
Windows never recognizes the disc no matter what mode you are in, only Rawdump will.
The UDMA speed does not affect whether the disc can be recognized or not, only whether the drive can read it without errors. Using PIO mode is a slower older interface and as a result helps some drives read the discs better. Setting a different DMA mode is likely to not make any difference.
Ok I hoope this helps I have rawdump 2.0
I looked on the outside case of GSA-H10N the Rom ver JL10 manufactured May 2006.
When I go into Device manager on GSA-H10N Detail then Harware ids its says "GSA-H10N_______JL12_____
But when I go to Device manger of GSA-H10N Detail then Firmware Revision it is blank.
Based on the net I think the Firmware is JL12
Thanks for your help
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robgrm
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4. January 2008 @ 01:17 |
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Originally posted by Red07:
I think people would rather use a separate DVD-ROM rather than put wear and tear on thier Wii drive. Just getting another DVD-ROM drive would be a lot easier than replacing your Wii drive if it should wear out/fail.
Your argument of buying an over-priced discontinued DVD ROM drive to reduce wear on the WII drive when making back ups is complete rubbish.
Let's assume you really like to play your Nintendo WII, and do so 3 hours a day 7 days a week. (assuming you can do so because you have no life outside of playing video games)
3 hrs a day * 7 days = 18 hrs a week
18 hrs * 52 weeks = 936 hours per year
Now, let's say I back up 25 games this year (more than most would have time to play as that would be a new game every other week).
That would add 25 * 1.5 hrs of backup, or 37.5 hrs of additional "wear" per YEAR.
That's right, my playing would use the drive for 936 hours per year, and backing up 25 games would add an additional 37.5 hours of wear PER YEAR.
Now, given that the MTBF is around 100,000 hours for an optical ROM drive, the average life span of a DVD ROM device when used for 936 hours per year would be 106 years and 306 days (almost 107 years)
However, if I use the DVD ROM in the WII for those 25 backups per year, that added "wear" would reduce the life span of the device. So adding in this additional "wear", it would mean that the life cycle of the WII DVD ROM drive would be reduced to 102 years and 264 days.
I'd hazard to guess that 102 years and 264 days is probably a little longer than you'll be walking this green earth, and probably a little longer than the time when Nintendo plans to replace the WII with another must have game machine.
If instead of spending $60 (on what should be a $17 drive) I spend $12 on an SDGecko card, so I'm saving $48. Of course I'll reduce the life span of my DVD drive in the WII to 102 years and 264 days from 106 years and 306 days.
Now let's say I take that $48 I save by NOT buying an overpriced $60 drive and instead invest it in an investment giving me a 10% return. At the end of those 102 years and 264 days (the life cycle of the built in WII drive doing ALL those back ups), my $48 SAVINGS by NOT buying that over priced drive would have GROWN to $857,405.56
I think, with an extra $857,405.56 in my pocket, or should I say the pocket of my progeny, they will be able to afford get a new DVD-ROM drive installed in the WII, or even buy a new gaming device, in 102 years and 264 days, with money to spare.
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rlc168
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4. January 2008 @ 02:25 |
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i_owo_i
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4. January 2008 @ 03:30 |
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good caculating .. business major ? just wondering =;Originally posted by robgrm:
Originally posted by Red07:
I think people would rather use a separate DVD-ROM rather than put wear and tear on thier Wii drive. Just getting another DVD-ROM drive would be a lot easier than replacing your Wii drive if it should wear out/fail.
Your argument of buying an over-priced discontinued DVD ROM drive to reduce wear on the WII drive when making back ups is complete rubbish.
Let's assume you really like to play your Nintendo WII, and do so 3 hours a day 7 days a week. (assuming you can do so because you have no life outside of playing video games)
3 hrs a day * 7 days = 18 hrs a week
18 hrs * 52 weeks = 936 hours per year
Now, let's say I back up 25 games this year (more than most would have time to play as that would be a new game every other week).
That would add 25 * 1.5 hrs of backup, or 37.5 hrs of additional "wear" per YEAR.
That's right, my playing would use the drive for 936 hours per year, and backing up 25 games would add an additional 37.5 hours of wear PER YEAR.
Now, given that the MTBF is around 100,000 hours for an optical ROM drive, the average life span of a DVD ROM device when used for 936 hours per year would be 106 years and 306 days (almost 107 years)
However, if I use the DVD ROM in the WII for those 25 backups per year, that added "wear" would reduce the life span of the device. So adding in this additional "wear", it would mean that the life cycle of the WII DVD ROM drive would be reduced to 102 years and 264 days.
I'd hazard to guess that 102 years and 264 days is probably a little longer than you'll be walking this green earth, and probably a little longer than the time when Nintendo plans to replace the WII with another must have game machine.
If instead of spending $60 (on what should be a $17 drive) I spend $12 on an SDGecko card, so I'm saving $48. Of course I'll reduce the life span of my DVD drive in the WII to 102 years and 264 days from 106 years and 306 days.
Now let's say I take that $48 I save by NOT buying an overpriced $60 drive and instead invest it in an investment giving me a 10% return. At the end of those 102 years and 264 days (the life cycle of the built in WII drive doing ALL those back ups), my $48 SAVINGS by NOT buying that over priced drive would have GROWN to $857,405.56
I think, with an extra $857,405.56 in my pocket, or should I say the pocket of my progeny, they will be able to afford get a new DVD-ROM drive installed in the WII, or even buy a new gaming device, in 102 years and 264 days, with money to spare.
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Red07
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4. January 2008 @ 08:19 |
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4. January 2008 @ 23:39 |
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Originally posted by click123:
I have a Fujitsu Amilo laptop with a HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T10N ATA
drive in it and i can dump wii disks with friidump-0.3.0-Win32.
I have copyed one game and burnt it on to a dvd with Nero7 all seems
ok but have not tested it as sill waiting for wiikey chip to get here
when it gets here and i have fitted it i will try it and let you all
know if it works or not. I can see no reason why it will not work thouth !!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
That's pretty interesting, that's the first burner I've heard of that read discs. Do keep us updated whether it actually works or not.
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4. January 2008 @ 23:42 |
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Originally posted by robgrm:
Not sure why anyone would spend 60+ dollars on a DVD reader that only months ago cost new $17. I understand they are getting hard to find, but you don't have to use a DVD drive to backup a WII game. If you have a WiiKey, simply use the DVD backup util and an SDGecko card (about $12).
So what size SD card do you need? At least 5 GB? Those are not cheap. Will it work with GC games also?
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robgrm
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5. January 2008 @ 12:24 |
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Originally posted by uou:
Originally posted by robgrm:
Not sure why anyone would spend 60+ dollars on a DVD reader that only months ago cost new $17. I understand they are getting hard to find, but you don't have to use a DVD drive to backup a WII game. If you have a WiiKey, simply use the DVD backup util and an SDGecko card (about $12).
So what size SD card do you need? At least 5 GB? Those are not cheap. Will it work with GC games also?
No, I use a 2 gig card I already had. I have to write it 3 times, with the third time only holding a little. The WiiKey DVDDumpTool is written to accept any size SD card. It will fill it up while keeping track of the swap. It uses zero based numbering, so for me the swaps are 0, 1, and 2.
The "reassembly" of the ICO is done automatically when using dumptool, the other PC util they include. When you dump the card onto your PC hard drive, it knows which iteration its on (0..1..2) and reassembles automatically. Obviously, to do this, you need to use the SAME SD card, not multiple cards, as the program wouldn't know which iteration its on. So don't bother buying or using multiple SD cards.
I think the WII GC homebrew app that dumps the DVD disk to the SD card can not handle the new 4 gig High Security cards, so again, buy an older, cheaper card if you don't already have one.
I've had 100% success backing up WII games using the included WiiKey homebrew apps and my SD Gecko card. I use Verbatim DVD-R discs to burn the backups.
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Red07
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5. January 2008 @ 14:05 |
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robgrm,
I have an SD Gecko, where can I get all the other software I need?
Also, how long does it take to rip a game using this method? Just wondering if it is longer or shorter than the 816B drive method.
Is there a tutorial posted somewhere you could point me towards for this method?
Thanks.
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click123
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5. January 2008 @ 17:21 |
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Where can i get a SD Gecko and what is it
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X1028
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7. January 2008 @ 02:02 |
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According to the first post, this drive should works, right?
http://www.atic.ca/index.php?page=LongDesc&sku=15448
Sorry, I know this question seems a little redundant, but I just want to make absolutely sure that it will indeed work before I ask my friend to pick it up for me at the location.
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Red07
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7. January 2008 @ 09:40 |
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That drive will work. It will be a lot slower than a GDR-8162B or GDR-8161B drive, but it will work fine.
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robgrm
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7. January 2008 @ 12:59 |
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I got my SD Gecko from EBay, the guy was in Canada. As to the software, all the software (free) was on the WiiKey Config disk. Not sure if it was 1.2 or 1.3, but I think they are on both.
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puredream
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7. January 2008 @ 15:59 |
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LG GDR-8164B
/GDR-H30N
are these the same drives or different part numbers
eh caralho
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