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Anyone considering purchasing a PS3 should READ THIS FIRST!
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29. December 2007 @ 02:39 |
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I finally took the plunge and bought myself a PS3 (it's the 40gb PAL version). I have some things I want to share with others so they can make a more educated buying decision.
First the GOOD... The graphics are CRAZY! I have mine hooked up to a 46" Full HD Sharp Aquos via HDMI, so I am getting the maximum potential... And the sound... WOW! Full Dolby surround throughout the entire game make for excellent atmosphere. Again I have mine hooked up to an AV Receiver with 1500w RMS 5.2 (twin subs) speaker system via optical. Also, using blu-ray as the optical media for the games makes potential for media rich content and HUGE games.
Now for the BAD... EDIT: Removed. I discovered it was a fault which was rectified through an exchange.
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stu456
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29. December 2007 @ 03:06 |
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Yes i agree with everything you say. I got mine for the same reasons. Its hooked up to a 42" samsung plasma and i was a little disapinted with the blue ray picture. I thought id get myself black hawk down, good action film to test it out. I was a little disapointed by the picture. I live in Australia and get a better picture on the HD freeview channels than what the ps3 seems to put out as far as films go??? Maybe i just dont have it set up correctly but im sure i have???
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ooZEROoo
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29. December 2007 @ 03:15 |
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You have problems. I watch blu-ray films and play games for hours and the fan is as quiet as can be and the picture is jaw dropping.
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stu456
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29. December 2007 @ 04:00 |
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Will agree with the fan thing, iv not heard mine at all.Sounds like you may have a bent fan blade???
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29. December 2007 @ 04:44 |
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Yes, I can see that about the fan after reading through various forums. It seems that a few others are having this noisy fan problem too. It is not a bent fan blade. It is one day old... :-p. I already contacted Sony about this. This is actually my second unit. I have the same fan problem again. I will be calling them again on Monday and requesting a unit from a different batch. From what I can discern, it seems Sony may have made a faulty batch of thermal regulators for the fan.
As far as the picture goes, I never said it wasn't good. It is great. However, the Samsung range of DVD and blu-ray players have fantastic picture. I have been truly spoilt with the HD870, it upscales DVD's with unbelievable quality... If you saw it for yourself I am sure you would agree. I have also seen blu-ray players set up in store and the picture is better than the PS3.
Just in case you're curious... Here are my display settings for the PS3... Resolution: 1080p, Cross color reduction filter: Off, RGB full range: Full, Super White: Off.
With that being said, I also have another DVD player capable of upscaling to 1080i and with HDMI output... and both the PS3 and my Samsung player leave it in the dust!
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ziggi_83
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29. December 2007 @ 06:39 |
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Well ive never seen better pictures while watching my blu-ray films maybe you havent set your tv or ps3 correctly. As for the fan, well i can say i havent really heard the fan at all, thats whats so good about the PS3 its so quiet, in cut-scenes in movies and in games i cant hear it, the Xbox fan is so loud you couldnt watch a movie.
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29. December 2007 @ 07:03 |
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I don't mean to sound rude but does it sound like I don't know how to set it up correctly? I even mentioned my settings used with the PS3.
How can my thoughts be wrong when my TV is set up with all the same color settings, contrast etc. and both my Samsung DVD player and PS3 are connected via HDMI to the SAME TV.... And the Samsung DVD player gives a better picture. Actually I have a higher quality HDMI cable running off the PS3 (gold connectors with metal casing, heavily shielded with woven fabric) where the Samsung is simply using a thinly plastic coated HDMI cable. I did also mention that I have tried a third HDMI DVD player to uspcale regular DVD's and picture quality was lower than both the PS3 and the Samsung player I have.
These are differences I notice...
The PS3 seems to have a slightly filtered or smooth look (I emphasize SLIGHTLY). The blacks also don't seem as deep and the colors not as vivid. My Samsung player and other blu-ray players I have seen in stores seem to have improvements over the PS3 in all the above areas. These differences are all only SLIGHT. Also, I have seen these players connected to the EXACT same TV I have. The Sharp Aquos Full HD LCD is the best LCD on the market, so please don't tell me it's my TV. The games look superb on it. HDTV broadcasts look great too, as do DVD's played on my Samsung HD870. I just want to clarify that these differences are more noticeable when using the PS3 to upscale regular DVD's... The Samsung does a way better job! I am not saying this for no reason. There is a BIG difference here. I wish there were a way to show you but I can't. I know let's all have a movie night at mine! hehe... Ok, everyone to Sydney!
I still love the PS3 and I am very happy with it (as soon as I get one with a quiet fan). PS3 games look superb. My only point to this post was that if someone is more looking for the ultimate blu-ray experience... A stand alone blu-ray player could be a better choice.
Ziggi, can I ask... You say you have never seen better pictures while using blu-ray but have you connected other high end players using HDMI to your TV?
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29. December 2007 @ 08:19 |
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I have just looked deeper into this by swapping various movies from my PS3 then to the Samsung player....
I have come to the conclusion that I prefer the picture on the Samsung player but that may not be the case for everybody. Everyone has different preferences and I am sure that some would prefer the PS3 picture.
In regards to the fan... There are two speeds. First one is quiet and can hardly be heard. Second is when it sounds like Qantas is about to take off :-). I believe that the second speed is meant to be there for when the CPU is in meltdown mode after being played for many hours. I feel that the problem doesn't lie with the fan itself but with the regulator that measures the temperature. I think it is too sensitive and going into freak out mode too early. It is summer here in Australia and today was quite hot so maybe the PS3 is measuring the outside temperature rather then the CPU/GPU itself.
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ziggi_83
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29. December 2007 @ 08:31 |
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I said 'maybe' like the settings on your PS3 such as Super White etc its best to search around and see which is best, Well i have tried the 360 hd-dvd player and the TOSHIBA HDEP10. But i and many others i know brought the PS3 for the games, so i dont mind about the Ultimate quality.
As for the fans can other members comment on whether they have heard the PS3 fan get really loud, i havent in hot conditions outside and after hours of gaming, i think your fans maybe faulty so some imput from others could help you.
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29. December 2007 @ 09:28 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
So in conclusion... The PS3 is an absolutely fantastic next gen gaming machine. However for movie content like blu-ray discs etc. there are better options. If this is just going to be for games and only playing your blu-ray movies until stand alone players come down in price then I say go for it 100%. If it is a substitute for a stand alone blu-ray player... I would think twice.
As you can see, I completely agree. For games it can't be beaten. I am a hardcore gamer and I am in Heaven playing the PS3. However I am also a Home Theater enthusiast so that's why I made this post... Just to help make others aware before making a decision. I myself value any information before making a buying decision especially when buying higher end entertainment items. I am not saying don't buy the PS3. Hell no! It's THE BOMB! I am just saying to take time if blu-ray movie quality is one of the main reasons for your purchase.
As for the fan problem... Yes! Can others please make posts here as to whether or not their fan makes noise? Also after how long? How loud? Does it continue to stay on or does it stop after some time? What is room temperature like? etc... etc...
It seems you guys are saying your fans are completely quiet. Are you saying that they remain that way after hours of use?
I need all the information I can if I am going to contact Sony for the second time with the exact same problem.
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Emjei2k
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29. December 2007 @ 11:22 |
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Ryu77 is correct, stand alone Blu-Ray players are better over the PS3 when it comes to watching movies.
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29. December 2007 @ 18:40 |
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the reason a blue ray standalone player is better than ps3 is simple:
THE PS3 IS A GAMES CONSOLE THE BLUE RAY IS A ADDED BONUS
you get what you pay for
if u bought a standalone blue ray player for a £1000 you would expect it to be better than its £300 counterpart.
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29. December 2007 @ 19:46 |
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Josh, why should that be the case? The picture quality results to a different decoder chip in the PS3... Or are blu-ray movies software decoded in the PS3? Can someone answer that for me? Either way, picture quality should not be affected at all. DVD's on the PS2 look exactly the same as stand alone players. I don't use my PS2 for DVD's though as the laser is reported to be a little fragile. I think a stand alone player should only be better aesthetically as a player and also ease of use. Picture quality wise should be the same.
Also, where would you pay £1000 for a player? That is like $2500 Australian! Or $2000 US!
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Iverson69
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29. December 2007 @ 20:04 |
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Well, personally I have seen upconverted DVD and I have seen blu-ray on my PS3. My standards are not as high as yours (I don't have a $10k media setup) but I can definitely tell the difference that blu-ray makes.
If you are having problems, buy a blu-ray disc that is not old, buy a NEW movie that was designed for blu-ray. I have noticed that old movies being converted for blu-ray have not always been top, but try a NEW movie made for it.
And the fan thing....well, I forgot I even had a fan with mine :D (exaggeration, I just never hear it working, maybe I just like my sound loud lol)
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29. December 2007 @ 22:49 |
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I have watched Ultravoilet and Vacancy on blu-ray both are fairly recent releases. Yes I agree with you... I was just referring to certain things which COULD be better. I will just clarify even further my point...
Blu-ray on PS3 vs. upscaled DVD on stand alone: Blu-ray is better no matter which DVD player is upscaling.
Upscaled DVD on PS3 vs. upscaled DVD on stand alone: I personally feel that a stand alone (the RIGHT stand alone) does a much better job.
Blu-ray on PS3 vs. blu-ray stand alone: While the PS3 delivers a great picture, there are certain things that come down to personal preference. All I am trying to say is that someone should take some time comparing stand alone players too if playing blu-ray is high on the priority list.
Please more info about others experience with the fan... I am starting to be almost 100% sure there was a batch with faulty temperature measure thingy's! I just wanted to sound dumb for a second. Thermal regulator sounds much too geeky. :-P
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Emjei2k
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29. December 2007 @ 23:12 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
I have watched Ultravoilet and Vacancy on blu-ray both are fairly recent releases. Yes I agree with you... I was just referring to certain things which COULD be better. I will just clarify even further my point...
Blu-ray on PS3 vs. upscaled DVD on stand alone: Blu-ray is better no matter which DVD player is upscaling.
Upscaled DVD on PS3 vs. upscaled DVD on stand alone: I personally feel that a stand alone (the RIGHT stand alone) does a much better job.
Blu-ray on PS3 vs. blu-ray stand alone: While the PS3 delivers a great picture, there are certain things that come down to personal preference. All I am trying to say is that someone should take some time comparing stand alone players too if playing blu-ray is high on the priority list.
Please more info about others experience with the fan... I am starting to be almost 100% sure there was a batch with faulty temperature measure thingy's! I just wanted to sound dumb for a second. Thermal regulator sounds much too geeky. :-P
Well put. Agreed
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Iverson69
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30. December 2007 @ 13:34 |
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Ru77 I agree with you, BUT for the average user that doesn't spend thousands of dollars on their home media center, the PS3 is perfect.
And ya I have had my PS3 folding for ~12 hours now and my fan is still super quite. Even when I play games I can't hear it :\
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30. December 2007 @ 13:42 |
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i think the fan thing might be related to the content the PS3 is processing. I haven't noticed mine yet but i do know on my Wii I have. On games that are obviously more graphically advanced and constantly loading like metroid prime the fan def. gets somewhat noisy. justsomething to think about...
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31. December 2007 @ 11:15 |
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yeah, i played oblivion last nite from 9:00pm to 3:00am.
everyone was asleep in the house, so i had to turn the tv way down.
and i STILL didnt hear the fan. this thing is quiet!
yeah, somethings wrong with your fan.
oh, and Ryu77, just to call you out a little. lol:
the Sharp Aquos isnt the best on the market. try the Pioneer Elite series....
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31. December 2007 @ 11:40 |
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Thanks for your input about the fan lordofuo... but I very clearly said Sharp Aquos is the best LCD on the market not PLASMA.
I completely agree with you that the Pioneer panels are the best plasma TV's on the market.
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31. December 2007 @ 12:33 |
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UPDATE: I watched Bridge to Terabithia on Blu-ray today on my PS3 and it looked fantastic!
I am not sure if it depends on the blu-ray content being viewed. I did notice that Bridge to Terabithia uses the AVC codec where Ultravoilet uses mpeg2. I have also updated to firmware 2.10 so I don't know if that has some updated decoder software or not. I do know it has added the DivX decoder with Full HD profile support too! That makes me very happy!
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31. December 2007 @ 13:10 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
UPDATE: I watched Bridge to Terabithia on Blu-ray today on my PS3 and it looked fantastic!
I am not sure if it depends on the blu-ray content being viewed. I did notice that Bridge to Terabithia uses the AVC codec where Ultravoilet uses mpeg2. I have also updated to firmware 2.10 so I don't know if that has some updated decoder software or not. I do know it has added the DivX decoder with Full HD profile support too! That makes me very happy!
I have to agree as I watched Pirates 3 a week or so ago on my 60" Sony A3000 and the picture was absolutely flawless. It really depends on the content on the disc in, how it is encoded and how well tuned your setup is too. Now as with anything, anyone who reads this thread should understand that it is all subjective as it is all based on opinion.
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31. December 2007 @ 13:49 |
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Originally posted by ooZEROoo:
You have problems. I watch blu-ray films and play games for hours and the fan is as quiet as can be and the picture is jaw dropping.
same here.. but i have the 60gb... maybe the changed something in the 40gb? lol
i know you're exagerating about the fan noise... but is it really noticable when playing games or movies?.. i like to play my games and movies loud so either way i wouldnt hear it.. on top of that my ps3 is far away in a shelf (with lots of room for breathing lol) in my basement so it stays nice and cool..
when i used to have my ps3 upstairs in the living room in the open.. wow did that thing ever get dusty and hot sometimes.
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31. December 2007 @ 16:22 |
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same here.. but i have the 60gb... maybe the changed something in the Quote:
40gb? lol
i know you're exagerating about the fan noise... but is it really noticable when playing games or movies?.. i like to play my games and movies loud so either way i wouldnt hear it.. on top of that my ps3 is far away in a shelf (with lots of room for breathing lol) in my basement so it stays nice and cool..
when i used to have my ps3 upstairs in the living room in the open.. wow did that thing ever get dusty and hot sometimes.
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can you give me a picture of your setup? I have mine in a cool place but it get dusty i hate it! I would like to fix this!
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henryryry
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31. December 2007 @ 16:33 |
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I have a 40 GB PS3, I also live in Australia where the temperature is usually higher than most places, and the fan is still extremely quiet. The only noise I ever hear from the PS3 is the occasional hard drive working away, but even that is barely noticeable...
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