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9. February 2008 @ 10:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Tahtah:
Hello,

I have problems with brawl too. Ok I have a Pal Wii and Wiikey.
With the SMG update because SMG works fine for me. And I have the newste firmware of my wii 3.1e. I had the half game of brawl backup on a normal dvd-r 4,7Gb Verbatim. I did the duplicated channel update and i could play half of the game :). But then I got the whole japanese game backup i burned it on a dvd-r dual layer 8,5gb verbatim. Only now i get this error: Error #001 unauthorized device has been detected. I dont know what to do I did everything right, right? Oh, and the disc swapping trick at the main menu didn't work for me I can play videos but its crappy :S. can somebody help me :O i would appreciate it :)?
I would try 2 things if i were you:
1. Try a dvd DL +R in stead of a dvd DL -R
2. Try a diffrent burner (new samsung or pioneer model.. perhaps)
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JTG2003
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9. February 2008 @ 11:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
[[I was told to post this here instead of in a seperate thread, so here it is]]

First of all I downloaded a wiikey config disc and turned region override to on. (Wiikey updated to latest version .. 1.9g)

Then I downloaded the (Dairantou_Smash_Brothers_X_RDNJPNWii-Crvn) Brawl version and burned it onto a DL Dvd.

When I put it in, I let it update the system to about 15% like it said in another forum and I unplugged the Wii.

I then burned the same Brawl (But this time brickblocked) onto a DL dvd and loaded it into the Wii.

Brawl showed up on the disc channel and I pressed 'Start'.

Then I get the error message '001: Device is invalid' or whatever.

I restarted, and it wont read the DVD anymore. I put the non-brickblocked DVD in again and did the update again (about 15%, I wasn't sure if the update had actually run).

Again, the brickblocked edition would not load. And now even the non-brickblocked version will not load ... or the wiikey configuration disc. And when I try to go to the Wii settings I get an error saying the page could not be found. :(

I loaded up some legitimate Wii games and GC games and those still run.

Any idea where I should go now? I really appreciate any help.
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9. February 2008 @ 13:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by JTG2003:
[[I was told to post this here instead of in a seperate thread, so here it is]]

First of all I downloaded a wiikey config disc and turned region override to on. (Wiikey updated to latest version .. 1.9g)

Then I downloaded the (Dairantou_Smash_Brothers_X_RDNJPNWii-Crvn) Brawl version and burned it onto a DL Dvd.

When I put it in, I let it update the system to about 15% like it said in another forum and I unplugged the Wii.

I then burned the same Brawl (But this time brickblocked) onto a DL dvd and loaded it into the Wii.

Brawl showed up on the disc channel and I pressed 'Start'.

Then I get the error message '001: Device is invalid' or whatever.

I restarted, and it wont read the DVD anymore. I put the non-brickblocked DVD in again and did the update again (about 15%, I wasn't sure if the update had actually run).

Again, the brickblocked edition would not load. And now even the non-brickblocked version will not load ... or the wiikey configuration disc. And when I try to go to the Wii settings I get an error saying the page could not be found. :(

I loaded up some legitimate Wii games and GC games and those still run.

Any idea where I should go now? I really appreciate any help.
I'm not sure about you Wii Settings and why it is doing that, I've never heard of that happening to anyone. I think I heard someone mention one time about a way to do a reformat. You might be able to do that and redownload the 3.1 firmware to fix the Wii settings, but don't quote me on that.

Can you play any back up games at all (games other than just SSBB)? Something might have happened to your Wiikey if you can only play originals.
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9. February 2008 @ 14:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by firefox13:


I'm not sure about you Wii Settings and why it is doing that, I've never heard of that happening to anyone. I think I heard someone mention one time about a way to do a reformat. You might be able to do that and redownload the 3.1 firmware to fix the Wii settings, but don't quote me on that.

Can you play any back up games at all (games other than just SSBB)? Something might have happened to your Wiikey if you can only play originals.
At the moment, I have none to test. I know the 'format' button is in the settings menu (which is why it sucks that I can't get in there).

Is there any place I can download/burn Wii updates? I can't connect to the internet with the Wii here because I am on a college campus and they .. don't allow it.
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9. February 2008 @ 15:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
this works for some, but not all. from your wiikey configuration disc, change the read speed to 3x if it is set at 6x.

David.
JTG2003
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9. February 2008 @ 15:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Wiikey configuration disc wont load up anymore.
dervid18
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9. February 2008 @ 15:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
look around on the net. mine stopped doing that because i had accidentally disabled something the last time i used it. i had to find one of the GCOS configuration discs or something like that to get back into the config. i have a few versions of it. i will try to upload them and send you the link.

David.
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9. February 2008 @ 15:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i am uploading them and i will send you the link. sorry i can't remember which one worked for me. the are a few versions and one that i think may be the correct gcos one, but i am not sure if it is just gcos. anyways. it is worth a shot. i'll pm you with the link when its done because i don't know if i can put the link here, even though it is just config. boot disc stuff.

David.
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9. February 2008 @ 15:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello.
I would like to ask you something guys. When you play smash brawl with a gamecube controller, how do you move the character?? with the stick or the D-pad? Can I change this in the option menu? Same thing with the classic controller.
I ask you this because I'm really looking forward to play with the d-pad because I suck completely with the control stick. Everybody says smash brawl is fully customizable about the control and the buttons, but nobody specifies if this applies to movement too.
Thanks.
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9. February 2008 @ 16:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i am pretty much positive you can change it to use the d-pad. the controls seems fully customizable. i haven't tried though. all i did was disable jumping with up on the control stick! sooo much better. if you are playing the dvd9 burned one, or are going to. here is a rough translationg to help you navigate the control change section.

http://faqs.ign.com/articles/849/849163p...00&RSSid=849163

David.
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9. February 2008 @ 16:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by firefox13:
It may be happening to many people, but it is not happening to all, which makes it nearly impossible to troubleshoot.
I'm sorry, but that is seriously the dumbest thing I have ever heard in this thread yet.
Originally posted by firefox13:
The problem is that there are so many different factors that could be going into it. A different brand of DVD9, a different burner, a different burning program, a different burn speed, a different disc drive speed, etc. There are just so many factors out there that could cause this problem.
Have you been reading anything? Error 001 is NOT a DRE. It's a copy protection issue. All the factors you listed more than likely have nothing to do with the problem. I agree with you that there are many factors out there that could cause this problem. That is why we're trying to narrow them down one by one until we get to the root of the problem. But your post has shown how little you know about this issue and you're not even trying to be helpful. Please don't address people with posts like, "this issue is nearly impossible to solve," when you clearly not very knowledgeable on the subject to begin with.
Originally posted by firefox13:
The fact is that the DL version of the game has only been out a few days, so there just hasn't been enough time to figure out what is causing the problem.
I call bull on this one too. The problem isn't that there hasn't been enough time. The problem is that there aren't enough people working on finding a solution. I'm pretty sure me and donchan22 are not the only people here on AfterDawn that have this problem (and in fact, we're friends IRL, so we've been spending a lot of hours trying to figure this out.) But we're the only ones in this thread discussing it. The power of the Internet is that people can pool their collective thinking power together and come up with solutions to difficult problems. Having 100 or 200 brains working on a problem is a lot more efficient than having 2 (or, in the case of this thread, somewhere close to 3 and a half.)

I'm sorry, but this thread is failing. All the helpful people have left to play Brawl, leaving the stragglers who have random, anomalistic problems to fend for themselves. Not a very helpful community.

Time to go find another forum ...
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9. February 2008 @ 16:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
JTG2003,

The Config Disc lockout problem occurs when you turn off Region Override in the WiiKey settings. It no longer reads the Config Disc and then you're in jam. -.-

Luckily, I've run into enough people who have had this problem that I've created an emergency disc image for these situations. Like dervid18 said, it uses a GCOS multigame disc to boot into the OS and then load the WiiKey Config image. Just download the file for your region, unzip, burn, and run. Label it "Emergency Disc" and save it. ;)

http://tsllnr.googlepages.com/gcosmulti_wiikey_1.3_jpn.zip
http://tsllnr.googlepages.com/gcosmulti_wiikey_1.3_pal.zip
http://tsllnr.googlepages.com/gcosmulti_wiikey_1.3_usa.zip

But ... Reading your long post, it sounds like you might have a bigger issue here than just the lockout. If you can't access your Wii settings, you more than likely have a semi-brick. =/ Try running Super Mario Galaxy, or any other game that comes with an on-disc firmware update. If none of those fix it, then you'll just have to wait for the next game that comes with newer firmware. =/ Sorry to tell you that, but that's currently the only known way to fix a semi-brick.

Keep us updated. Good luck.

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dervid18
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9. February 2008 @ 16:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DNT5:
Originally posted by firefox13:
It may be happening to many people, but it is not happening to all, which makes it nearly impossible to troubleshoot.
I'm sorry, but that is seriously the dumbest thing I have ever heard in this thread yet.
Originally posted by firefox13:
The problem is that there are so many different factors that could be going into it. A different brand of DVD9, a different burner, a different burning program, a different burn speed, a different disc drive speed, etc. There are just so many factors out there that could cause this problem.
Have you been reading anything? Error 001 is NOT a DRE. It's a copy protection issue. All the factors you listed more than likely have nothing to do with the problem. I agree with you that there are many factors out there that could cause this problem. That is why we're trying to narrow them down one by one until we get to the root of the problem. But your post has shown how little you know about this issue and you're not even trying to be helpful. Please don't address people with posts like, "this issue is nearly impossible to solve," when you clearly not very knowledgeable on the subject to begin with.
Originally posted by firefox13:
The fact is that the DL version of the game has only been out a few days, so there just hasn't been enough time to figure out what is causing the problem.
I call bull on this one too. The problem isn't that there hasn't been enough time. The problem is that there aren't enough people working on finding a solution. I'm pretty sure me and donchan22 are not the only people here on AfterDawn that have this problem (and in fact, we're friends IRL, so we've been spending a lot of hours trying to figure this out.) But we're the only ones in this thread discussing it. The power of the Internet is that people can pool their collective thinking power together and come up with solutions to difficult problems. Having 100 or 200 brains working on a problem is a lot more efficient than having 2 (or, in the case of this thread, somewhere close to 3 and a half.)

I'm sorry, but this thread is failing. All the helpful people have left to play Brawl, leaving the stragglers who have random, anomalistic problems to fend for themselves. Not a very helpful community.

Time to go find another forum ...
I am sorry I cannot help you with the 001 error problem. I can only think of a few things it could be. Are you WiiKey users? I am a WiiKey user. 3.1U Wii with 1.9g firmware for the WiiKey. I have gotten the 001 error once and only once almost immediately after I decided to change my read speed to 6x to make for shorter load times. The second time I booted my DVD9 Brawl up after changing the speed I got the error. I changed my my speed back to 3x immediately and haven't gotten the error since. Apparently changing the speed to 3x does not work for everyone which sucks.

The next thing I can think of is what type of disc is your DVD9 version on? The trend seems to be that Verbatim DVD+R are the best for the DVD9 version. I myself being cheap, ran over to the Wall Mart and bought a 3 pack of HP Dual Layer DVD+R discs. I have made two copies, one burned at 3x to test the DVD9, and then one burned at 1x to make sure there would be no problems. So if you are not using DVD+R, or you burned at 2.4x or 2x speed, try burning it at 1x, and make it your computers sole process while doing it. I have had a lot of burns that completed and verified successfully while burning at a slow speed that did not work because I was doing a bunch of other stuff on my computer at the same time that corrupted the burn sneakily. Another question would be did you do the unplug trick or did you let you Wii Update completely from the DVD5 version?? I let mine update all the way. I have full access to all of my menus, and I still have 3.1U Wii firmware. The only thing is that I have two extra sets of channels which does not matter to me. I would suggest letting the update go all of the way through, even if that means reformatting your Wii to do so.

Aside from those things I really cannot see anything that would cause the 001 error except for your Wii's laser being dirty (which is apparently a problem in Japan right now, prompting Nintendo to clean peoples lasers for them so they can read the new DL disc medium) or your modchip going faulty, neither of which seem likely to me.

Sorry I can't be of more help. :-( Since I am not experiencing this problem it is tricky to troubleshoot.

David.
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9. February 2008 @ 16:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DNT5:
JTG2003,

The Config Disc lockout problem occurs when you turn off Region Override in the WiiKey settings. It no longer reads the Config Disc and then you're in jam. -.-

Luckily, I've run into enough people who have had this problem that I've created an emergency disc image for these situations. Like dervid18 said, it uses a GCOS multigame disc to boot into the OS and then load the WiiKey Config image. Just download the file for your region, unzip, burn, and run. Label it "Emergency Disc" and save it. ;)

http://tsllnr.googlepages.com/gcosmulti_wiikey_1.3_jpn.zip
http://tsllnr.googlepages.com/gcosmulti_wiikey_1.3_pal.zip
http://tsllnr.googlepages.com/gcosmulti_wiikey_1.3_usa.zip

But ... Reading your long post, it sounds like you might have a bigger issue here than just the lockout. If you can't access your Wii settings, you more than likely have a semi-brick. =/ Try running Super Mario Galaxy, or any other game that comes with an on-disc firmware update. If none of those fix it, then you'll just have to wait for the next game that comes with newer firmware. =/ Sorry to tell you that, but that's currently the only known way to fix a semi-brick.

Keep us updated. Good luck.
Awesome!! Thanks for posting that. I sent him to like an 80 mb file with a bunch of versions in it because I couldn't remember which version was this one. lol

JTG2003-- If it is not too late, just download the one you need here. It will be much easier than trying to figure out which of my files is this one!

David.
zorantor
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9. February 2008 @ 16:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Any word on whether there's an option for English language in the Japanese version of Smash?
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9. February 2008 @ 16:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by zorantor:
Any word on whether there's an option for English language in the Japanese version of Smash?
Unfortuanetely, I have found no such thing.

David.
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9. February 2008 @ 16:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DNT5:

Don't forget there's a few of us with D2CKey that are really, just completely lost. It seems disc swapping only works for a few people, and since there isn't even a 3x read speed option, we're all just screwed until a new fix shows up...
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9. February 2008 @ 17:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dervid18,

I think you're not understanding the situation correctly. Error 001 is NOT a DISC READ ERROR. It's a copyright protection error. It has nothing to do with dirty lasers or media or anything of that sort. It has to do with software on the disc and hardware mods to the console. The difference between your situation and our situation is that you have gotten the error only once. When you got the error, it was probably just your console or modchip hiccuping or something to that effect, and not a real issue. We ALWAYS get the error. Swapping is the only way we can play the DVD9 right now because of it. It's really annoying. The difference is that our situation is a legitimate problem. I'm thinking it's a bad mix of settings somewhere, but I still haven't been able to figure out exactly what.

You don't need to apologize for "not being helpful" or anything like that. At least you didn't FAIL like the other guy and act like you knew what you were talking about when you didn't, and then say that there's nothing we can do.
Originally posted by AkariK:
DNT5:

Don't forget there's a few of us with D2CKey that are really, just completely lost. It seems disc swapping only works for a few people, and since there isn't even a 3x read speed option, we're all just screwed until a new fix shows up...
Read back a couple pages. Someone got it working. I don't know if it's been confirmed yet, but you should definitely try what he said.

My USA D2A Wii broke. My replacement is a D2C and I'll be getting a D2CKEY in it, so don't worry AkariK, I'll be joining that boat real soon. -.-

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 9. February 2008 @ 17:02

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9. February 2008 @ 17:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You're talking about Puneater's post, right? He didn't specify that the movies were working. If I disc swap to DVD9, the game will run fine - as long as I do the same things I did on the DVD5 version. It still crashes on movies.

Specifically having the DVD5 with the Wii Update Remover should change nothing - it doesn't matter, as long as the game boots up in the first place, since you are swapping discs anyway.
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9. February 2008 @ 17:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh yeah. i forget it is a copyright protection thing. i was thinking about it from the wrong angle. hmmm... well, if it is any help, i have all of my wiikey settings on and the disc read speed at 3x, although that is how most people including those getting the error probably have it. best of luck. that is such a drag. i hope the wiikey team is really working on an update. that would be nice. i have heard no official news though.

David.
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9. February 2008 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
does anyone know of any really good super smash bros. brawl forums where people can go to rade brawl codes and stuff? this thread is definantly dying.

David.
JTG2003
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9. February 2008 @ 20:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DNT5:
JTG2003,

The Config Disc lockout problem occurs when you turn off Region Override in the WiiKey settings. It no longer reads the Config Disc and then you're in jam. -.-

Luckily, I've run into enough people who have had this problem that I've created an emergency disc image for these situations. Like dervid18 said, it uses a GCOS multigame disc to boot into the OS and then load the WiiKey Config image. Just download the file for your region, unzip, burn, and run. Label it "Emergency Disc" and save it. ;)

http://tsllnr.googlepages.com/gcosmulti_wiikey_1.3_jpn.zip
http://tsllnr.googlepages.com/gcosmulti_wiikey_1.3_pal.zip
http://tsllnr.googlepages.com/gcosmulti_wiikey_1.3_usa.zip

But ... Reading your long post, it sounds like you might have a bigger issue here than just the lockout. If you can't access your Wii settings, you more than likely have a semi-brick. =/ Try running Super Mario Galaxy, or any other game that comes with an on-disc firmware update. If none of those fix it, then you'll just have to wait for the next game that comes with newer firmware. =/ Sorry to tell you that, but that's currently the only known way to fix a semi-brick.

Keep us updated. Good luck.

I downloaded and burned it (Filechopping the size to 4.5g, burned at 4x). "Unable to read the disc". :-/

EDIT: Also tried not filechopping it and burned at 16x. Still unable to read the disc.

SSBB's "brick" was only supposed to duplicate channels. And it never even ran through all the way, I unplugged at 15% to remove that. I think something is just .. corrupted. Half-updated files. Is there any way to manually force an update? At this point I'll deal with the duplicated channels.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 9. February 2008 @ 20:58

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hey another quick question my dvd9 copy was working PERFECTLY on SSE playing videos and all that crap and then after 2 hours of playing SSE i was 29% complete it then outa nowhere its goes to green screen errors for cutscnes! Now the disc cant play videos anymore its like it downgraded to like a dvd5 version.....
dervid18
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9. February 2008 @ 21:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i will probably be online in about 30 minutes if anyone wants to brawl.

David.
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10. February 2008 @ 00:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a japanese wii with wiikey 1.9g. I have a the 7.93gb dual layer iso. The question is, if i let it update fully , will it be a problem. I'm thinking it wont be because my wii is japanese. Do i need to download the single layer version of the game?
 
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