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DualShock 3 finally coming to US PS3s among other new bundles
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article published on 26 February, 2008
At its annual retail and publisher conference Sony America has announced that new PlayStation 3 and PSP bundles will be hitting retailers beginning in April.
They company also announced that the wireless DualShock 3 controller will finally be available in North America starting in April for the MSRP of $55 USD.
The first new bundle will include the 80GB model, a DS3 controller and ... [ read the full article ]
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Originally posted by DDRgod922:
i really hate xcocks 3sucksty fanboys. ps3 is FTW! microsoft should just stick with computers and let playstation and nintendo handle console gaming
the 360 has its merits but frankly they only have 3 or 4 games over the PC and over what the PS3 will have.
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27. February 2008 @ 06:36 |
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im just saying alot of xbox fanboys dont even give the ps3 a chance, ive given the 360 alot of chances but i just dont like it all
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Originally posted by DDRgod922:
im just saying alot of xbox fanboys dont even give the ps3 a chance, ive given the 360 alot of chances but i just dont like it all
I am all about Price V cost V fun the PS3 was worse at launch than the 360 currently is,even now the PS3 is about equal with the 360 just because its not falling apart, I hate the backtracking on some features but even a blind fool(like me :P) can see the 360 isn't improving and the PS3 is.
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27. February 2008 @ 07:41 |
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To those of you who like to point out the PS3's limited title range at the moment...
I am a PS3 owner and I agree with you. There are only a handful of games that appeal to me at the moment. However, some things that you need to consider are...
1) The XBOX 360 was released about 18 months earlier than the PS3. Can you 360 fan boys honestly say that the PS3 range will still be sucky in 18 months time? Here is a PS3 scheduled release list sourced from Wikipedia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_3_games
2) The PS3 games are released on Blu-ray discs. While these discs are more expensive to release games on, they also allow for a much richer gaming content. There are a few cost reducing processes for the Blu-ray project in motion. Also, the Cell architecture is apparently a little difficult to develop for at this present time. Developers are still learning to harness the power. Once these 2 hurdles are overcome, then I dare say watch out for a beast to be unleashed. Even the early games have very impressive graphics and audio (full in game Dolby/DTS 5.1). With HDMI as standard, it certainly looks the part on a LCD or Plasma.
I also believe that a DTV tuner and recorder accessory is in development. That would be a great accessory to have! :-D
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
To those of you who like to point out the PS3's limited title range at the moment...
I am a PS3 owner and I agree with you. There are only a handful of games that appeal to me at the moment. However, some things that you need to consider are...
1) The XBOX 360 was released about 18 months earlier than the PS3. Can you 360 fan boys honestly say that the PS3 range will still be sucky in 18 months time? Here is a PS3 scheduled release list sourced from Wikipedia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_3_games
2) The PS3 games are released on Blu-ray discs. While these discs are more expensive to release games on, they also allow for a much richer gaming content. There are a few cost reducing processes for the Blu-ray project in motion. Also, the Cell architecture is apparently a little difficult to develop for at this present time. Developers are still learning to harness the power. Once these 2 hurdles are overcome, then I dare say watch out for a beast to be unleashed. Even the early games have very impressive graphics and audio (full in game Dolby/DTS 5.1). With HDMI as standard, it certainly looks the part on a LCD or Plasma.
I also believe that a DTV tuner and recorder accessory is in development. That would be a great accessory to have! :-D
The 360 is about the past (what it can steal from PC and keep on the 360 and fix its hardware issues) the PS3 is moving forward and for the most part is about the future. BWC is still a big issue for me but I have put cheat devices above it.
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27. February 2008 @ 08:54 |
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There are a few more titles that are MS only: BioShock, Crackdown, PGR series, Forza, etc. Though some of these are available for PC, that's not the point, as we are talking about consoles.
One of the first comments about the Dual Shock setting the "standard"... True, it's a great controller, but it is a ripoff in and of itself:
1. The original PSX controller (minus analog "nubs") was based on the SNES controller. This was openly admitted by Sony years ago, as they had intended to make an add-on for the SNES. Eventually that became the PSX.
2. Sony did not add analog sticks to its controller until the debut of the N64. Shortly thereafter, the DS controller came to life, as did a handful of lawsuits. Nintendo was trying to keep analog sticks and rumble feedback exclusive, but failed.
3. The Sixaxis "borrowed" motion sensing from the Wii. I know that comment will catch some heat, but when you think about it, Nintendo has NEVER released details on their controllers until their their new concept system has been displayed for some time. They started doing this first with the N64, then GC and then when Revolution became the Wii, we first saw the Wiimote. All of a sudden, PS3 has this "feature" as well.
I'm not going all out against Sony here, because the S controller for Xbox, and the 360 controller are basically DS/SNES hybrids with Dreamcast triggers, and a headphone jack.
Anyhow, yes, the PS3 seems to be gaining momentum. They may have a few "must play" titles on the horizon, a new controller, console packages at a value, and an HD format that no longer has an asterisks or question mark next to it. All of that will help Sony, but they need to get Home and PSN moving along, or they will still lag behind in online play.
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Originally posted by SProdigy:
There are a few more titles that are MS only: BioShock, Crackdown, PGR series, Forza, etc. Though some of these are available for PC, that's not the point, as we are talking about consoles.
One of the first comments about the Dual Shock setting the "standard"... True, it's a great controller, but it is a ripoff in and of itself:
1. The original PSX controller (minus analog "nubs") was based on the SNES controller. This was openly admitted by Sony years ago, as they had intended to make an add-on for the SNES. Eventually that became the PSX.
2. Sony did not add analog sticks to its controller until the debut of the N64. Shortly thereafter, the DS controller came to life, as did a handful of lawsuits. Nintendo was trying to keep analog sticks and rumble feedback exclusive, but failed.
3. The Sixaxis "borrowed" motion sensing from the Wii. I know that comment will catch some heat, but when you think about it, Nintendo has NEVER released details on their controllers until their their new concept system has been displayed for some time. They started doing this first with the N64, then GC and then when Revolution became the Wii, we first saw the Wiimote. All of a sudden, PS3 has this "feature" as well.
I'm not going all out against Sony here, because the S controller for Xbox, and the 360 controller are basically DS/SNES hybrids with Dreamcast triggers, and a headphone jack.
Anyhow, yes, the PS3 seems to be gaining momentum. They may have a few "must play" titles on the horizon, a new controller, console packages at a value, and an HD format that no longer has an asterisks or question mark next to it. All of that will help Sony, but they need to get Home and PSN moving along, or they will still lag behind in online play.
when a 400$ PC runs better than the 360 and offers more...everything the console argument is a weak defense.
Sony has done a fair job at improving their game better than nin/MS when they get stuck on a flawed design.
but the main thing with the PS3 is the slow start and lack of slick and solid BWC to push PS3 game drought console sales.
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27. February 2008 @ 09:16 |
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I own all 3 systems myself. The Wii is something I play with my kids on the weekends. Its ok but not a system that can be played by me for a long time. The 360 was good before the PS3 launch for me. I barely play it now that more games are out on my PS3. Drakes Fortune is a excellent title for the PS3. In fact besides COD4 on the PS3 i think its probably the best title out on the system. I like Heaven Sword even though its short but the graphics on that games is probably the best on a game in my OPINION. I love my PS3 I will grab me a few of these DS3 controllers soon. Its just going to make the game better.
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Originally posted by spydah:
I own all 3 systems myself. The Wii is something I play with my kids on the weekends. Its ok but not a system that can be played by me for a long time. The 360 was good before the PS3 launch for me. I barely play it now that more games are out on my PS3. Drakes Fortune is a excellent title for the PS3. In fact besides COD4 on the PS3 i think its probably the best title out on the system. I like Heaven Sword even though its short but the graphics on that games is probably the best on a game in my OPINION. I love my PS3 I will grab me a few of these DS3 controllers soon. Its just going to make the game better.
the wii is funny...in order toplay it for long you need to be fit,if you play it for long you will fall asleep because most of the games are gimmicky party games, which means you wont bii fit....
god I need sleep >>
I have written the WII off as a gimmick until the real games show up for it...and it needs more than..2 or 3 non mediocre titles..... the PS3is looking better but it suffers from the 360s "I look better but I am still a coke snorting whore" in trems of gameplay and over all polish...
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
when a 400$ PC runs better than the 360 and offers more...everything the console argument is a weak defense.
Ack, I can't say that a $400 PC runs all that well with sharp GFX... besides, I would rather having something that looks sharp in my audio cabinet, uses a remote, hooks up to my HDTV and receiver without extras needed (HDMI, SPDIF) and play media over my network, PLUS be a gaming machine, then in terms of value a $300+ console would be far better than a $400 budget Sempron/Celeron system that needs to be patched and updated frequently.
Whether that console is a 360 or PS3, I wish one of them would get their head out of their *** and allow all types of media to playback, like XBMC will allow. (With the exception of HD formats, since the hardware is too dated for those files.)
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Originally posted by SProdigy:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
when a 400$ PC runs better than the 360 and offers more...everything the console argument is a weak defense.
Ack, I can't say that a $400 PC runs all that well with sharp GFX... besides, I would rather having something that looks sharp in my audio cabinet, uses a remote, hooks up to my HDTV and receiver without extras needed (HDMI, SPDIF) and play media over my network, PLUS be a gaming machine, then in terms of value a $300+ console would be far better than a $400 budget Sempron/Celeron system that needs to be patched and updated frequently.
Whether that console is a 360 or PS3, I wish one of them would get their head out of their *** and allow all types of media to playback, like XBMC will allow. (With the exception of HD formats, since the hardware is too dated for those files.)
LOL
this is true to get a PC to fit in a cabinet you'd have to go alil more custom so thats another 200-300$ in a streamlined box with a slim profile card, there are plenty of PC remotes so thats not a problem.
With linux you can skip a lot of the PS3 defaulted limits.
MS should dial back on the hardware teireny it has going unlock the USB pipes, MS could open up the OS a bit more and let it play more emdia types...but frankly the 360 is a locked antiquated in direction console, the PS3 is alil better.
MS also has the approval setup for the 360 set in a iron fist way no cheat devices no vid players. its only hurting them more IMO.
If the 360 had a cheat device on it I'd have one now because I could make the games fun to play at least with the right codes :P.
And fck the 360 would rule with a AR max evo on it!
hell I'd even buy cheats off live!
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I'm surprised to see Sony releasing something like this. This is one of the best bundles I've ever seen. Releasing this bundle is probably the best decision Sony has made since the launch of the PS3. If I didn't already have one I'd buy this one in a heartbeat.
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Yeah, the whole cheat scenario on the 360 is asinine, considering they really think that gamers are pining for achievements. Screw that. There are some times where I don't have 80 hours to put into one game, but I want to check out all of the unlockables. Is it such a crime to use a game save to get those? If MS can distinguish that a save I use is from another gamertag (or console) to the point that they BAN SYSTEMS from Live, then how come they can't program it so that you DON'T get the achievements from someone else's save file in the first place?
Truly, they should open up the OS a bit more, since it is a hybrid Windows box to begin with.
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27. February 2008 @ 11:56 |
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Oh man this is ridiculous. First i would like to say i was a die hard sony fan since the PS first dropped. Second generation, sony again even though xbox had slightly better graphics on some games, their library of games just couldnot compete. It always comes down to the exclusive titles. Games like devil may cry 4 dont turn heads toward either company just b/c the graphics are better on the xbox 360. You can check Youtube out for split screen comparisons of games like Madden, Call of Duty 4, etc for those that want to make the shallow arguement about the graphics. There really is not that big o a difference. If it were like comparing ps1 first generation games to current ps2 games i could see the arguement but really that is a shallow fanboy thing.
By the way i now own a xbox 360 and elected not to buy a ps3 after waiting on a better lineup of games for the ps3 . I dont fanboy either system, it is all about the games and i just call it like i see it. Now i have also read a article made by a game developer who worked for EA. He mentioned that the xbox 360 isnot really more powerful than the ps3 as many people think. He says that the ps3 is actually has far superior potential with graphics and games once the software can be perfected.It just looks that way b/c it is easy to program for the 360 and then port games to the ps3. I am thinking like this guy. What will happen when they master programming for the ps3, thought games may take longer to make and cost more b/c more work was put in to making the game. I heard a lot of experts say that the xbox 360 will peak in potential while the ps3 has the potential to be a 10 year span console. Now with that said, I am not about to wait on sony. Yeah that got a great lineup of games scheduled for this year and i think it will really help them with their numbers. But as of right now the 360 has the edge with the big title exclusives. Someone earlier mention some great games on 360 but they forgot Bioshock. I have been hooked on this game like crack LOL. Mass effect 2, Gears of war 2, and a lot of other good games are to be released this year on the xbox 360. 360 also is currently the best system for RPGs such as Fable 2, Oblivion,Lost Odessey, Blue dragon. Ps3 will release MGS4, Resistance 2, Etc. this year so it will be about 360 showing it can counter every exculisive game ps3 drops with one of its own that will keep sales alive.
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27. February 2008 @ 12:00 |
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Originally posted by ZeusAV:
I'm surprised to see Sony releasing something like this. This is one of the best bundles I've ever seen. Releasing this bundle is probably the best decision Sony has made since the launch of the PS3. If I didn't already have one I'd buy this one in a heartbeat.
My friend is so happy. That's exactly what he wanted. An 80GB PS3 with MGS:4, and now he's getting the rumble too :)
That's a sick package... I think it will attract a lot of people just because it comes with an actual good game...
Same with the PSP bundle... If I didn't already have one I'd buy that... I cant wait for GOW :)
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Well, I bought my PS3 last weekend and I'm glad I did, because I don't care for MGS4. At least not now. And DS3 doesn't interest me either, so for $100 less, I got what I wanted (Don't care about the size of the HDD - at least not now, because when I do eventually want a larger one, it's going to be a lot larger than an 80GB, so I would have to replace it anyway). But I have a few friends who will jump on this deal. One of them is sick of the 360. He's returned it 4 times in a years time. In fact, the last one he returned was purchased in January. So I don't believe that the hardware issues were 100% fixed. And that's really what I want to see. Who wants to spend money on a console that has a 50% or 30% chance that it will fail. Heck, if they told me that there was only a 10% chance that it would fail, then I wouldn't get it.
And I've waited for the 360 to improve. I played it often at my friends house, liked the look and feel of it, liked XBL, etc. And I held out for as long as I could. After my friends last failure (and the recent bluray win) I decided to write it off and go with the PS3. Looking forward to installing Yellowdog 6.0 tonight and seeing what features I can mess around with and customize. I see great things for the PS3. The hack forums are active and there are some exciting things on the horizon. PS3 ftw!
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The red PSP slim bundle is awesome, sold! Only complain is that the bundle will be available in June, not March when GoW:CoO is released, ah the horror!
Already enjoying the PS3, but the new 80gb PS3 bundle sounds cool. Probably getting another one?
Wii is not getting any play lately at all... Beat Super Mario Galaxy and kinda gave up on Zelda and Metro Prime. Mini games are fun for parties, but i don't host parties every weekends.
X360 is okay... The 2nd unit is not giving me any problems (RRoD on the first), but i'm crossing my fingers. I love Gears, finished it and currently playing Rainbow Six in preparation for March's part two. It's a great game, but quite buggy (one part in the Dante's hotel, textures are missing on the wall renderings, i scratched my head on this bug b/c everything looks so "weird" after an intense battle). I hate the loading time though...
Overall, the PS3 is the best for the cash i spent on (Wii is not cheap, extra three Wiimotes cost you another $100 or more, i got them used and on sale). I like the X360, but hate the RRoD reputation and the fees to pay for on-line play. I was shot down for a demo download, can you believe that? (silver members can't download a demo when it first released).
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Originally posted by SProdigy:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
when a 400$ PC runs better than the 360 and offers more...everything the console argument is a weak defense.
Ack, I can't say that a $400 PC runs all that well with sharp GFX... besides, I would rather having something that looks sharp in my audio cabinet, uses a remote, hooks up to my HDTV and receiver without extras needed (HDMI, SPDIF) and play media over my network, PLUS be a gaming machine, then in terms of value a $300+ console would be far better than a $400 budget Sempron/Celeron system that needs to be patched and updated frequently.
Whether that console is a 360 or PS3, I wish one of them would get their head out of their *** and allow all types of media to playback, like XBMC will allow. (With the exception of HD formats, since the hardware is too dated for those files.)
haha well you know i jus built my new PC, it's in my sig, that was only $500 and it's still much better IMO lol
and lemme tell you its a beast for sure..
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Its true the PS3 doesn't have many games on it....but use this to annoy the 360 fanboys, only 1 game on the 360 aint on computer, Halo :P
haha Zippy i will don't worry..
and to all of you people still b*tching and moaning about how either console is better or worse..especially the guy that made the xcocks crack..jus quit it..quit the war let people think what they want..jus like what you like jeez..
and its true the PS3 is much more flexible..hell i was even pissed with the lack of cheat devices for ol XBOX unless you modded..
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Originally posted by SProdigy:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
when a 400$ PC runs better than the 360 and offers more...everything the console argument is a weak defense.
Ack, I can't say that a $400 PC runs all that well with sharp GFX... besides, I would rather having something that looks sharp in my audio cabinet, uses a remote, hooks up to my HDTV and receiver without extras needed (HDMI, SPDIF) and play media over my network, PLUS be a gaming machine, then in terms of value a $300+ console would be far better than a $400 budget Sempron/Celeron system that needs to be patched and updated frequently.
Whether that console is a 360 or PS3, I wish one of them would get their head out of their *** and allow all types of media to playback, like XBMC will allow. (With the exception of HD formats, since the hardware is too dated for those files.)
haha well you know i jus built my new PC, it's in my sig, that was only $500 and it's still much better IMO lol
and lemme tell you its a beast for sure..
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Its true the PS3 doesn't have many games on it....but use this to annoy the 360 fanboys, only 1 game on the 360 aint on computer, Halo :P
haha Zippy i will don't worry..
and to all of you people still b*tching and moaning about how either console is better or worse..especially the guy that made the xcocks crack..jus quit it..quit the war let people think what they want..jus like what you like jeez..
and its true the PS3 is much more flexible..hell i was even pissed with the lack of cheat devices for ol XBOX unless you modded..
has someone made a nice universal cheat system for the Xbox?
will it work on soft mod..I still need to soft mod LOL.......
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im just saying alot of xbox fanboys dont even give the ps3 a chance, ive given the 360 alot of chances but i just dont like it all
I am all about Price V cost V fun the PS3 was worse at launch than the 360 currently is,even now the PS3 is about equal with the 360 just because its not falling apart, I hate the backtracking on some features but even a blind fool(like me :P) can see the 360 isn't improving and the PS3 is.
I don' believe!!!!!!!!!!! (:o) you finally admitted... Congrats... I guess you are blind no more... Still a fool though, LoL
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Originally posted by lxhotboy:
He mentioned that the xbox 360 isnot really more powerful than the ps3 as many people think.
Who thinks that? I know I don't. You only need to look at the specifications to see that isn't true. The PS3 is more advanced and powerful. I know the 360 fan boys wont like this but this is a PS3 news article at the end of the day.
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Ya... I think everybody has to agree that the PS3 is definitely more powerful...
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Originally posted by vinny13:
Ya... I think everybody has to agree that the PS3 is definitely more powerful...
Not really to many bottlenecks in it, what it dose have is enough polish on the hardware to smooth out the issues in the software and vice versa.
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Not really to many bottlenecks in it, what it dose have is enough polish on the hardware to smooth out the issues in the software and vice versa.
Zippy it's obvious that you are a PC gamer and rarely have anything positive to say about console gaming. I personally feel that a console is superior in every way to a PC for gaming but that is my opinion and you obviously have yours.
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Not really to many bottlenecks in it, what it dose have is enough polish on the hardware to smooth out the issues in the software and vice versa.
Zippy it's obvious that you are a PC gamer and rarely have anything positive to say about console gaming. I personally feel that a console is superior in every way to a PC for gaming but that is my opinion and you obviously have yours.
I call it like I see it sorry if it offends that console gamings being raped and fed to the masses happily oblivious the fact they are paying more for less, its not so much console gaming but the fact that the corporate mentality over gaming has gone from simi polished projects to mostly cash in titles.
There has been some changes in dev houses, capcom for instance a once endlessly cashing in brand has been leaning to gamepaly over cash in, DMC 3 and 4 do not suck, Dead raising was good albeit different they polished up the main RE line, sure they still have cash in knock offs but at least the main game lines do not suffer from it.
I wish more devs lent to polish over rush jobs I hope the next castlvana installment dose not blow but it seems Konami has not woke up like capcom has, square too could learn from this FF12 is broken.....
Just to be clear the corporations used the console market as a spam market to push off alot of buggy and underpar stuff they used it to gain power and momentum and squashed a lot of creativity in the industry in the late 90s/early 2K, this had lead to a focus of form over substance in gaming and tis still that today but tis no worse than hollywod because there are still new games that do not suck.
Just for comparasion Crysis V Bioshock, BS is lackluster IMO but so is Crysis it might come out 1 point more for control and AI polish but the game dose not evolve its the same gameplay starting gameplay mechanics throughout the whole game if it had a story that was the level of FEAR then maybe it would be abit better.
Trust me I am not bashing just the consoles over quality :P
Another thing the PS3 dose haz a bottleneck even so the hardware has enough polish on it to limit that throughput limit, the 360 is a few rungs behind mainly do to the piss job of design and manufacturing.
The 360 could easily be the PS3's eaqul if the hardware was not locked and broken.
And the WII is still a gimmick once it has about 10 games on it worth playing it will become a real game system.
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