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Sony not expecting $200 Blu-ray players before next year
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article published on 6 March, 2008
Despite speculation by some that we may see a $200 Blu-ray player before year's end, no such product appears to be in sight. In fact, the Chinese companies responsible for the boom in low priced DVD players a few short years ago don't even seem to have a chance to be licensed by the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA).
Sony Electronics CEO Stan Glasgow told Gizmodo "I don't think $200 is going ... [ read the full article ]
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6. March 2008 @ 11:18 |
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Originally posted by SProdigy:
WOW... nice setup. Looks like Sony's plan for World Domination begins at your place! ;-)
LOL! Come on... It's not all Sony... There's some Sharp & Samsung thrown into the mix! :-P
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goodswipe
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6. March 2008 @ 11:49 |
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made a little net-search cause a post that i saw here, and HD-DVD wasn't that copy free, HD-DVD used DRM, but i havent seen any from the HD-DVD fanboyz ever posting nothing about that.
Toshiba's/HD-DVD's DRM was different? or it was for a good cause?
HD DVD used Advanced Access Content System (AACS) for protection. Blu-ray uses the same level of security, but they thought they would step it up a level with BD+ - HD DVD doesn't use this. Below is a little tid bit of what BD+ can actually do.
- examine the host environment, to see if the player has been tampered with. Every licensed playback device manufacturer must provide the BD+ licensing authority with memory footprints that identify their devices.
- verify that the player's keys have not been changed. execute native code, possibly to patch an otherwise insecure system.
- transform the audio and video output. Parts of the content will not be viewable without letting the BD+-program unscramble it.
This is what all the fuss is about my friend.
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6. March 2008 @ 11:54 |
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Now that Sony owns the HD market they will not lower any prices on Bluray. All the money they lost with the ps3 has to made up somewhere. But I can't wait until that company comes out with a Bluray/Divx machine at Walmart.
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6. March 2008 @ 11:54 |
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Hey A_Klingon, one question for you bud. Do you sit around and drink Monsters all day or what? You're one chippy guy I must say!!
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6. March 2008 @ 11:55 |
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Oh No here comes SONY!
@ goodswipe
as an edition BD+ scans for any multi region hacks and disables the drive if a hack is found!
God bless global price fixing thank you sony!
*click* Lik-Sang.com Out of Business due to Multiple Sony Lawsuits
Originally posted by sony tool:
"ultimately, we're trying to protect consumers from being sold hardware that does not conform to strict EU or UK consumer safety standards, due to voltage supply differences et cetera; is not - in PS3's case - backwards compatible with either PS1 or PS2 software; will not play European Blu-Ray movies or DVDs; and will not be covered by warranty".
oh they was protecting us by not letting us import PS3's at UK launch for £300 delivered to your door!
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6. March 2008 @ 11:57 |
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Originally posted by c1c:
Now that Sony owns the HD market they will not lower any prices on Bluray. All the money they lost with the ps3 has to made up somewhere. But I can't wait until that company comes out with a Bluray/Divx machine at Walmart.
Panasonic is suppose to be comming out with a BD player that has DivX support. The DMP-BD50 is suppose to be DivX certified.
Man, lmao @ that nobrainer! Hey did you make those anti-DRM images yourself? lol
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6. March 2008 @ 12:14 |
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Just a few points.....
1st - what's so weird or paranoid about people suspecting that Blu-ray may end up incorporating a 'phone home' form of 'security'?
The Sony root kits did.
2nd - why shouldn't people moan about the lack of a proper range of supposedly final spec Blu-ray players (although I note that profile 2.1 & 3.0 are in the works)?
They are only 3 years late (and counting) in catching up with where HD DVD was all along.
3rd - Why shouldn't people point out the obvious cynacism at work on Blu-ray pricing?
Now HD DVD has retired from the field both Blu-ray player & movie prices are up (straight after the Warner announcement Sony put a cool $100 on the cost of their S300 on their own website, for instance).
4th - Why should anyone interested in high def have to buy a bl*ody PS3?
Talk about energy inefficient and a waste of money.
There's simply no good reason (other than sheer greed) why a BD stand-alone with the playback abilities of the PS3 without all the gaming BS many of us neither want nor need has never appeared.
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6. March 2008 @ 12:16 |
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The game is rigged but even they can not prop up high prices for too long.
I don't see BR+ players falling under 200 for at least 8 months, PC BR players are under 200 and some BR players are under 280 as well as used BR players can hit below 250.
All in all its a process.
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6. March 2008 @ 14:42 |
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@ hughjars
the phone home ability has already been confirmed by FOX i'll have to find the link, but it was played down as they are just collecting statistical data but not any personal data, which i suppose means everything except ip address but is that considered private data, i don't think so?
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6. March 2008 @ 14:55 |
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Originally posted by nobrainer:
the phone home ability has already been confirmed by FOX i'll have to find the link, but it was played down as they are just collecting statistical data but not any personal data, which i suppose means everything except ip address but is that considered private data, i don't think so?
So when I registered for the web-enabled features of my Transformers HD DVD I shouldn't have given Paramount any of my data?
Or maybe I shouldn't have downloaded those ringtones using the web-enabled extras on my 300 HD DVD?
Maybe I shouldn't have ordered that solar powered radio from the Evan Almighty HD DVD U-Shop.
Now Paramount, Warner, and Universal have all my data. Geezus!
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6. March 2008 @ 15:34 |
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@juankerr: You're in a cynical mood today.
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Maybe I shouldn't have ordered that solar powered radio from the Evan Almighty HD DVD U-Shop.
I was tempted to get the recycled toilet paper as a gag gift but decided against it. I did download that 300 ringtone though.
Does that mean Warner has my personal data too?
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6. March 2008 @ 15:50 |
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nobrainer, is that a pic from your local bar? Which one is you?
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6. March 2008 @ 15:59 |
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nobrainer, is that a pic from your local bar? Which one is you?
OUCH! that hit a sting for sure!
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sony had to spend a lot of money to defeat Microsoft, they had to spend even more money paying producers to sell they're movies in blu ray even though it would be a lose of money as most sales are still above 90% dvd, very little blu ray interest from the consumer at the moment,
at any rate now that sony won the battle they must lick clean their wounds, they must make up for failed promises and a H U G E lose of profit! its only natural that the main way they gather money (the blu ray players) will be abused!
"no war is paid for during its time, but after"
the quote went something like that, it was by an ancient greek er roman...or some important smuck!
-tripplite
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6. March 2008 @ 16:30 |
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Originally posted by juankerr:
Originally posted by nobrainer:
the phone home ability has already been confirmed by FOX i'll have to find the link, but it was played down as they are just collecting statistical data but not any personal data, which i suppose means everything except ip address but is that considered private data, i don't think so?
So when I registered for the web-enabled features of my Transformers HD DVD I shouldn't have given Paramount any of my data?
Or maybe I shouldn't have downloaded those ringtones using the web-enabled extras on my 300 HD DVD?
Maybe I shouldn't have ordered that solar powered radio from the Evan Almighty HD DVD U-Shop.
Now Paramount, Warner, and Universal have all my data. Geezus!
LOL... I doubt those studios care about your use of HD-DVD now!
I was just picturing Blu-Ray coming with a "Genuine Authenticity" menu when it loads... you know, like Windows :-)
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6. March 2008 @ 16:39 |
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Originally posted by SProdigy:
LOL... I doubt those studios care about your use of HD-DVD now!
You mean I can't order the recycled toilet paper from Evan Almighty anymore?
Anyway, I'm sure he was being sarcastic.
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6. March 2008 @ 17:07 |
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Originally posted by eatsushi:
You mean I can't order the recycled toilet paper from Evan Almighty anymore?
Last time I checked about a month ago the U-Shop was still online. Hopefully you can still order your TP.
Come to think of it I wonder how long the web-enabled features on the HD DVD discs will remain online.
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6. March 2008 @ 17:11 |
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Hey A_Klingon, one question for you bud. Do you sit around and drink Monsters all day or what? You're one chippy guy I must say!!
Aw, gorsh! [blush]
I try, goodswipe, I try; tain't always easy; there's a lot of misery out there, and I figure people are probably tired of all the bitchin', whinin' and moanin' going on <especially my rants>, (not that they haven't got a good reason to a lot of the time), it's just that I hate to see good people get "Taken In" by Perennially-Greedy Big Bizz.
...kissing up to the admins ... Other than that, AfterDawn folks are the BEST anyway! (Couldn't you tell?)
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6. March 2008 @ 17:13 |
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Last time I checked about a month ago the U-Shop was still online. Hopefully you can still order your TP.
I am Cornholio! I need TP for my bunghole!
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6. March 2008 @ 17:24 |
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Originally posted by goodswipe:
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Last time I checked about a month ago the U-Shop was still online. Hopefully you can still order your TP.
I am Cornholio! I need TP for my bunghole!
LOL! One of the classic moments in American film history!
When is this coming out in HD????
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6. March 2008 @ 17:30 |
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1st - what's so weird or paranoid about people suspecting that Blu-ray may end up incorporating a 'phone home' form of 'security'?
Nothing. Not a thing.
I was reading something earlier today on Sony's official website, where they were hinting (very transparently I might add) about the "advantages" of leaving one's PS3 connected to the internet, 24/7 'round the clock. They didn't say it outright, but it's not hard to read between the lines.
That's about the dumbest thing I can think of anyone doing. Someone ought to develop a sort-of Sony-Firewall-Protection-Program to insert between their PS3s (or blu-ray players) and Sony's online servers.
Beware of candy-coated phrases like "viewer enhancements", "added-value", "enriched viewer experience", and the like. It's mostly just a load of self-serving DRM.
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6. March 2008 @ 17:32 |
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Originally posted by juankerr:
LOL! One of the classic moments in American film history!
When is this coming out in HD????
I totally agree, just thinking about that episode really cracked me up! I would definitely buy that series in HD if they offered it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Cornholio
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6. March 2008 @ 17:37 |
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6. March 2008 @ 17:40 |
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Does that mean Warner has my personal data too?
More than likely. As well as your shoe size and favourite colour too.
In fact, Warner (or one of their drones) is reading all of your posts *right now* as fast as you can type 'em!
-- Paranoid Klingy --
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6. March 2008 @ 17:44 |
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Originally posted by juankerr:
Originally posted by goodswipe:
Originally posted by juankerr:
LOL! One of the classic moments in American film history!
When is this coming out in HD????
I totally agree, just thinking about that episode really cracked me up! I would definitely buy that series in HD if they offered it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Cornholio
I was referring to the movie but I guess that line was originally in the series:
http://www.amazon.com/Butt-Head-America-...&sr=8-5
Oh yea, he did do that character in Beavis and Butt-Head Do America. But he originally started the character in the tv series.
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6. March 2008 @ 17:46 |
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Originally posted by A_Klingon:
More than likely. As well as your shoe size and favourite colour too.
In fact, Warner (or one of their drones) is reading all of your posts *right now* as fast as you can type 'em!
-- Paranoid Klingy --
SO if I order from U-Shop then Universal will know about my TP preferences. Oh well, at least it's environmentally friendly.
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