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Warner execs claim anti-piracy measures behind The Dark Knight's success
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article published on 28 July, 2008
Warner Brothers executives are claiming a huge win in the war against piracy was instrumental in 'The Dark Knight' becoming a huge hit. According to company representatives they spent months ensuring that no copies of the film would disappear, and no one was recording it in Australian theaters in the two days it ran there before its US opening.
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llongtheD
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29. July 2008 @ 07:35 |
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well aren't you two a couple of geniuses. Lets lead the cat, to the canary.
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29. July 2008 @ 07:51 |
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Originally posted by llongtheD:
well aren't you two a couple of geniuses. Lets lead the cat, to the canary.
? Do you not think that officials are aware of the filesharing websites? Did I give anything but a screenshot which deliberately doesn't shwop uploaders names of the website URL. It really wouldn't make a difference, some of these websites are hosted in various parts of the world, good luck getting a search warrant for there.
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29. July 2008 @ 07:56 |
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uh, I was giving you kudos. I liked it, I think you misunderstood.
I especially liked the new terror front. Maybe sometimes the canary is the cat.
If your fish seems sick, put it back in the water.
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29. July 2008 @ 08:11 |
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i am not sure if studios still don't get it. If they make good movies people will spend cash to go see in the theaters. If all you can offer is stupid comedies with will farrell doing the same thing over and over again then is really not worth paying for it and waiting in line. I rather download it and laugh for a bit. So make good movies and stop making anti piracy excuses.. totally BULL
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29. July 2008 @ 09:37 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
While |I seem negative.. NO.. it's a decent movie, it could have been a great movie without all the cgi and the lack of imagination.. as it is it is a pretty good film, but in the scheme of things who will be talking about it in 5 years (months even)
ultimately like the last 2 years output.. clever cgi but no actual content.. flame on.. I'm a commercial file reviewer, I get paid for watching this crap!!.
How soon we forget your high praises for the CGI-fest (but no actual content) known as "Van Helsing:"
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/13815.cfm
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Hey losers.. I'm as entitled to my opinion of a film as anybody else.
Don't you think you should afford the same entitlement to everyone else?
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29. July 2008 @ 10:33 |
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i've been reading afterdawn for awhile now and never felt compelled to post but I have to say, this BS from warners just makes me madder 'n hell. i hope they squander all the money they make and go down like new line did with the golden compass.
idiots. all of them.
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29. July 2008 @ 11:15 |
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i forgot the movie already... i need to watch it again.. without using herbalism.. =]
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29. July 2008 @ 11:58 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
While |I seem negative.. NO.. it's a decent movie, it could have been a great movie without all the cgi and the lack of imagination.. as it is it is a pretty good film, but in the scheme of things who will be talking about it in 5 years (months even)
ultimately like the last 2 years output.. clever cgi but no actual content.. flame on.. I'm a commercial file reviewer, I get paid for watching this crap!!.
Varnull..............You have just forfeited your potential of being an avid movie-goer with good taste and also forfeited your right to passing an opinion on flicks. You are seriously in the tiny tiny TINY minority of those that think the movie is "decent". Some people just should not be allowed to make recommendations or have opinions. It's because the world allows this that there are so many unjust laws, rules and corruption and "bad people" that are merely out for themselves.
TELL US ALL PLEASE. If this movie was "decent", WHAT WAS THE LAST MOVIE YOU CONSIDERED GREAT? No answer would indicate you are an unappeasable individual.
I will be anxiously awaiting your response because I'm as curious as can be about what floats your boat.
Oh and IF you are ACTUALLY a commercial "file" (whatever that is) reviewer........then YOU'RE FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (regardless of the simple fact that movie critiquing and appreciation is a whole other ballgame)
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WTF all this over batman I mean how many sequels to batman are there.If they are going to release something they should release something original.Its like watching James Bond movies if you seen one you pretty much seen them all.
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Maybe Hollywood should concentrate on the part of the equation where the movies don't suck, rather than the part where people find out how bad they are.
I would have to agree 100% with that comment Hollywood doesn't have anything that is worth watching.I'm constantly watching older movies,because nothing decent has came out or has been out in ages.The plots to some of the older movies are better than what we are seeing today.
And this reasoning is no doubt your lame excuse for justifying YOUR rampant stealing, downloading and pirating of movies and the fact that you probably don't and WON'T ever buy a physical DVD or even own more than 5.
Shame.................leaches and leaching does not make the world go 'round. It in fact brings it to a screeching halt. No integrity.
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29. July 2008 @ 12:07 |
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Originally posted by Mik3h:
They claim a victory? lol 
Anyone that watches that crap (TS, cams etc) is ghetto and as blood sucking leechy as they get with NO TASTE. No doubt simple-minded too.
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29. July 2008 @ 12:17 |
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Yeah, the quality of the movie was the reason why it did so well. Nolan pulled this series out of the gutter. It's gotta be tough to write a serious drama with mature themes around a guy in a bat-suit, but these new takes on the Bat are a refreshing turn-around. Once you understand that "Begins" and "Dark Knight" are not sequels to the previous fiascos, then they become more enjoyable. These are movies that delve deeper into the human psyche. Batman is not a super hero in the typical sense. He's viewed as a criminal. He's not just fighting bad guys. He's fighting his own demons, trying to figure out right from wrong, and if he's even capable of making the right choices. The movie manages at times to find humor in the darkness of their world, without making it a campy cheese-fest. In my personal case, I found myself occasionally laughing, but almost uncomfortably due to the derranged nature of what was happening. I watched this movie with the same kind of interest as the Bourne movies. I was truly interested in the characters.
Seems like most reviews range from good to great. And that's an excellent indication as to why it did so well.
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29. July 2008 @ 13:46 |
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thanks lynchGop, we all take that as a compliment :)
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29. July 2008 @ 14:11 |
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So you want "great" films.. OK try Stalker, or Ronin, or Amilee or KillBill pt1 (all style and storytelling, but not much story.. genius n action) Irreversible, Trainspotting.. want me to go on?
Now please remember I didn't say batman was crap, only that it is respectable.. you aren't wasting your money going to the cinema to see this one.. It only stands out because of the dearth of any recent quality films to compare it to. It's just another formulaic superhero film with heaps of cgi dressing it up. Nothing challenging, no commentary on life.. nothing but another "lets stomp the bad guy" film from studios and writers who seem to have got very lazy.. or is it the financiers who have realised that any old crap sells so long as it has flashy special effects and enough hype...
guess what lynch.. I usually agree with you on stuff, but that was a step too far. get over yoiurself.. you like nobrain superhero stuff? fine.. but don't go trying to tell us grownups it's the greatest film of all time... because we will pull Casablanca and Cross of Iron on you.. and that's without going to probably the greatest film of all time and certainly the best realised and most artistically profound project Броненосец Потёмкин
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29. July 2008 @ 14:58 |
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Now now....let's not get our knicker in a knot. (I think that is the correct saying)
My question is why haven't the movie studios been doing all along? Why is it now a success? The answer: its not. They are using this movie to spread their "message of success". People are search on google and other search engines about Dark Knight. What a great way to get people to read your "message of success" than to associate it with a hot topic like Dark Knight.
Honestly, I think it is a cleaver but pretty sneaky way of being heard.
These opinions are not meant to start a stupid fanboy fight or any kind of fight for that matter.
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=varnull]that's without going to probably the greatest film of all time and certainly the best realised and most artistically profound project Броненосец Потёмкин
Sergei Eisenstien's Battleship Potemkin - restored to full black and white glory by Kino and released in a 2-disc collectors set:
http://www.amazon.com/Battleship-Potemki...KVJBW8Q04PPMAVS
One of the few regular DVD's I bought last year.
Maybe not the best film of all time (Citizen Kane is tops for me) but among the top ten IMO.
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I guess I'd have to watch a "making of" because TDK didn't come off as a CGI fest to me.
Emugamer, your "review" is spot-on and the reason why this shouldn't be lumped with the usual superhero movies shilled to consumers. This is not your childhood Batman, and this is not Iron Man, X-Men, Hancock or any other those "other" movies.
Oh, and TS/CAM/R5 are all CRAP! I'm no saint to downloading stuff, but I NEVER download those horrible quality bootlegs. It's an insult to myself as a moviegoer as much as it is a slap in the face to the studios.
TDK is worth the money to go see on the big screen, and if you don't/won't/can't, then just wait for the DVD to watch it at home, because it's worth a buy.
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if they made more good movies like this people would pay see them. but they keep making all these small worthless movies not worth a $1 that why sales and people going to the cinema are down. i paid see this one at the cinema and i liked it alot better then batman begins to me there on a role i liked incredible hulk movie and iron man allso. bottmline make stuff people want see or hear you will get your sales up make crap be lucky sale one copy.
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WTF all this over batman I mean how many sequels to batman are there.If they are going to release something they should release something original.Its like watching James Bond movies if you seen one you pretty much seen them all.
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Maybe Hollywood should concentrate on the part of the equation where the movies don't suck, rather than the part where people find out how bad they are.
I would have to agree 100% with that comment Hollywood doesn't have anything that is worth watching.I'm constantly watching older movies,because nothing decent has came out or has been out in ages.The plots to some of the older movies are better than what we are seeing today.
And this reasoning is no doubt your lame excuse for justifying YOUR rampant stealing, downloading and pirating of movies and the fact that you probably don't and WON'T ever buy a physical DVD or even own more than 5.
Shame.................leaches and leaching does not make the world go 'round. It in fact brings it to a screeching halt. No integrity.
I don't have to download the movies they are crap to begin with a 5 minute preview of the movie can tell you that.The movie isn't as great as most people make it sound,and no I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon to make you all happy.Its sad when you have numb nuts paying for crap because it screws everybody else when hollywood knows they can get away with it.Sorry but your post is as useless as your comment on the subject,and when did I ever mentioned I pirated the movie.How about you get off the banana boat and get back to reality.Sorry I'm not at the toddler age where super heroes thrill me.
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Originally posted by SProdigy:
I guess I'd have to watch a "making of" because TDK didn't come off as a CGI fest to me.
Emugamer, your "review" is spot-on and the reason why this shouldn't be lumped with the usual superhero movies shilled to consumers. This is not your childhood Batman, and this is not Iron Man, X-Men, Hancock or any other those "other" movies.
Oh, and TS/CAM/R5 are all CRAP! I'm no saint to downloading stuff, but I NEVER download those horrible quality bootlegs. It's an insult to myself as a moviegoer as much as it is a slap in the face to the studios.
TDK is worth the money to go see on the big screen, and if you don't/won't/can't, then just wait for the DVD to watch it at home, because it's worth a buy.
I disagree I think Dark knight is done in the same vine of comic films as incredible hulk,Helboy, Iron man, taking the fiction as its presented and merely altering it just a tad for the times, In Dark knight's case its what Batman should be not so much a action movie but a crime drama.
Oh and I tag any half decent cam job to see if a moive is even worth trying to get in good qaulity.
POTC:worth about 10$ each
Hellboy 2 worth 20$
Dark knight worth 20$
Indiana johns crystal skull....not worth seeing again
Speed racer worth 15$
Iron man worth 15$
Incredible hulk worth 15$
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30. July 2008 @ 02:26 |
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I see error5 is still being his usual prick self picking things totally out of context..as usual for the uninventive and ignorant who never ever have anything relevant to say unless it is fanboy trolling.
Van Helsing stands out as a work of art. I don't give two shits if you don't agree.. I like it and that is enough for me. I don't need to justify my taste to any dickhead on a forum. There isn't any other film quite like it. It stands alone. is liking a film because of it's artistry of direction and skill in the pacing is wrong?.. dammit.. Ultraviolet is a really classy film looked at in those terms, though I don't think anybody would say it was a great film. Plenty of style and polish, but like aeon flux.. something just doesn't quite happen to take it that little bit more and make it great. A great film can only really be judged well after the fact.. Great films stand the test of time.. bashing on and on about how something which has only just hit the screens is the greatest film of all time is as fruitless as the oscars. In 10 years have another look.. will you be able to go and buy this batman film easily like you can say buy Pulp Fiction, or a John Wayne film? Then we will know
Tell you what these current films remind me of.. propaganda films from ww2.. Formulaic and pushing the "bad guys get whupped by the all american hero" message. It's subtle propaganda, but that doesn't make it any more palatable. Captain America in a bat suit.. Captain America in a spider suit.. Captain America as a frikkin shape shifting bloody robot.. give me strength *sighs*. American Psycho is far far better... and they probably aren't looking for people downloading that as it doesn't "spread an appropriate message" ;) hehehehe.. You can have the propaganda ONLY if you pay for it.. Leave it to George XD
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30. July 2008 @ 05:08 |
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The message it's clear; "Make good movies and people will pay to see them" If the studios want to ignore that message and claim that the numbers are due their means to "protect" their films from piracy,they are hopeless...
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but you can also point out anti caplistic themes here and again, but ya I can see the propagandaness in them but its more corporate than patriotic, or at least corporate stringing along patriots *rolls eyes*
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Originally posted by bangor09:
The message it's clear; "Make good movies and people will pay to see them" If the studios want to ignore that message and claim that the numbers are due their means to "protect" their films from piracy,they are hopeless...
There is nothing new about big budget summer blockbusters having lots of hype and making alot of money at the box office. Spider-Man 3 was absolute crap and it has the #2 opening weekend/day ever and made over $300 million.
I don't buy the whole, "Its not my fault for stealing" argument. If a movie sucks, why even watch it? This is 2008. If you don't know about review sites and how to watch a trailer online, you're an idiot and its unlikely you use the internet well enough to post or browse on Afterdawn. Theres no reason to steal. If you hate today's movies there's an easy alternative: don't watch them. Why waste hours downloading and watching when you could spend 3 minutes on rotten tomatoes or a film forum and find out what people think about the movie and if its something that interests you.
Its like when people say they download songs illegaly because music is bad. Yeah, its so bad that you download it to your ipod and listen to it 20 times a week... something isn't adding up.
Quality standards have gotten insanely high. You have to be the second coming of the Beatles... or marketed to the level of the second coming of the beatles in order to have success today. "Amazing" and "Really good" isn't enough to warrant someone spending $1 on a song, $9 on a CD or $8 for a movie or $14 for a DVD.
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Dark Knight Rant:
I still don't see whats so great about the Dark Knight. Its a comic book movie. They covered up all the violence with slapstick humor so that it seemed light hearted (saturday morning cartoons do that all the time... nothing new or innovative about that, plus people act like they've never heard of dark humor before), it still had tons of bad comic movie one liners and jokes. The entire opening sequence is one long series of crappy jokes until the Joker pulls his mask off. In reality, this movie has alot of issues the are saved solely because of how much screen time they gave to Heath Ledger's Joker... which is the only aspect of the movie not over-rated imo.
I think the movie is good (A-) but when I see people saying, "its the best movie i've ever seen"... I have to think their movie going starts and Fast and Furious and ends at Fast and Furious 3: Tokyo Drift.
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Originally posted by atomicxl:
I still don't see whats so great about the Dark Knight. Its a comic book movie. They covered up all the violence with slapstick humor so that it seemed light hearted (saturday morning cartoons do that all the time... nothing new or innovative about that, plus people act like they've never heard of dark humor before), it still had tons of bad comic movie one liners and jokes.
Did you even SEE this movie? That is totally not at all what this movie is like. Are you sure you didn't go see "Batman & Robin" by mistake?
You're totally allowed to dislike the movie, but don't misrepresent the film as some buffoon'ish slapstick comedy full of one-liners and jokes, Or even a dark comedy. That's 100% inaccurate.
And then claim anyone that enjoied the movie has no taste (as if your taste is the only that matters) as your defense.
It's obvious you have no idea what the hell kind of movie you were watching if you thought The Dark Knight was "light-hearted".
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