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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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11. June 2008 @ 05:00 |
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I used to recommend EVGA stuff, but there was a period a few weeks ago when there was a significant pile of threads all to the effect that they had a dodgy graphics card, and every one of them was an EVGA. That took them out of my good books. I know someone who used an EVGA board as well, a 650i one, but that wasn't actually the problem, the board's just plain bare, very little instruction or support, it looks more like a board you'd expect to see inside a Gateway than an enthusiast grade platform.
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11. June 2008 @ 08:27 |
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doing a little OC here
man i love this stuff, when you got the right stuff to work with..lol
running a stress test and surfin the net all at once no slow down..
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11. June 2008 @ 14:51 |
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rob that 12v its reporting is your vdimm.
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its been a while since i have seen many more die due to "em" which makes me think even more that it was a couple of bad batch #s that got sold not a design flaw. i know of a few people who have their wolfdales running 1.45v 24/7 and have pushed alot more vcore thru them for bench runs and they still work months after.
after i tried pushing 1.45v thru my 8200 it needed less vcore to stay stable for my 24/7 clocks, not alot but some nontheless.
how long did it take intel to up the max rated volts on the 65nm chips? i will not be shocked when they do the same for the 45nm ones.
vid, somedays i do think they have a tombolla to pick those :D
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11. June 2008 @ 14:59 |
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yea i know i set it up to do that. im more worried about the mem volts right now than others...
im leaveing it set at auto in bios and just seeing how far i can go before i need to adjust the volts on the mem and cpu
damn marcey99 very nice OC there.
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11. June 2008 @ 15:12 |
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cheers rob, the chip has alot more init but my ram (dam you 2gb sticks)lets me down there and no matter how much vdimm they get they will not post at 541.
yours is nice for the vcore too m8. im betting 1.3v will get you 4ghz+ easy by the looks of that.
which rev of the p35 ds3r have you got?
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11. June 2008 @ 16:34 |
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@ marsey99,
Are you using 2x 2g RAM moduals? Remember as I mentioned many post back when dabbling with these. If not aiming for the braggin' systetic scores, you need to loosen the trfc (Row Refresh Cycle Time) of stock to at least 50 but 55 for more stability if so available. OCZ does this to their new FLEX II kit to insure use in BIOS that do not allow trfc above 42. Also if available, relax any RAM performance options that will effect trd (chipset performance level) level to match match your FSB.
Trfc 50 at trd 8 wokrs great daily for me at 480FSB (RAM 1153MHz) w/ a dual. The Q6600 needs much more NB to 1.55v and trfc 55 to keep equally stable.
Just some ideas for using 4gb RAM in the 2x 2g kits. It's what works for me on my various mobos but will greatly vary from BIOS to BIOS options.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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11. June 2008 @ 17:57 |
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Originally posted by marsey99:
cheers rob, the chip has alot more init but my ram (dam you 2gb sticks)lets me down there and no matter how much vdimm they get they will not post at 541.
yours is nice for the vcore too m8. im betting 1.3v will get you 4ghz+ easy by the looks of that.
which rev of the p35 ds3r have you got?
i have the 2.0 revision now. when i sent my mobo back for the second time i requested the 2.0 revision i had the 2.1.
TBH i think i could get 4.0ghz out of it but im not to sure my mem can handle it. plus im not in no need to take it that fast. granted i want to but realisticly i need this to last me a couple years if not longer, so im pretty much happy with the very stable 3.51ghz i have now...
as for my Vcore that is supriseing me also. im very happy with it where its at. like i said i have it set on auto in the bios and it dont even have it up to the 1.225v that its rated at. im sure if i was to take it up to 3.7/3.8ghz i would need t take it up some. but until i see that i need to manually adjust it. i'll let the mobo do its work for me..lol
have you done a mips test on it to see what ya get? id say you would be close to 40,000 if not higher
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11. June 2008 @ 17:59 |
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plus all that right there that nucknfuts just said. blew right over my head. i dont have a clue as to what he is talking about..lol
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11. June 2008 @ 18:17 |
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Lol his posts are a bit 'technical' lol, but very useful as an insight into the 'higher level' overclocking. Indeed I hadn't really considered tinkering with trfc. Presumably this primarily only affects the 2GB Sticks?
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11. June 2008 @ 20:00 |
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I just try to give the basics and figure most will go "Yahoo" it further or on the many other OC foums such as Overclockers.net or ExtremeOverclocking.
But the trfc relax can benifit many RAMs, especially in the area of utilizing less vdimm at same speed but w/ slightly loosened timing. Or simply for getting more FSB out of same RAM on same vdimm as before. My old BIOS only allowed 42 Row refresh rate so I was forced to use a vdimm of 2.245v for my Crucial PC2-8500 @ 1153 but w/ relaxed trfc of 50, I can now use as low as 2.22v and system still feels just as smooth.
YES, I realize as I already said above, not many will have these mobos and BIOS options, but I did see some and for those who do, play w/ them anbd see where they can help your OC.
ASUS & DFI users can often get access to these RAM sub timing and chipset options via BETA BIOS on most all their X38/X48 mobos. Few ASUS & DFI further allow tweak of the trd in the chipset more direct such as our RAMPAGE FORMULA. However, all the other ASUS X38 I can speak for allow this tweak through the propper use of RAM Ai Clock Twister and Performance Booster. See Everest chipset for performance level used for your OC then compare.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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11. June 2008 @ 20:19 |
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So what did Mort81 have to say Sam?
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11. June 2008 @ 20:59 |
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marsey99,
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after i tried pushing 1.45v thru my 8200 it needed less vcore to stay stable for my 24/7 clocks, not alot but some nontheless.
Did you ever wonder why? The answer is pretty simple if you stay away from the real technical aspects of it. More voltage puts more pressure on the electronic pathways, widening them a bit. When you went back to more normal voltages, because the pathways are now slightly wider, it takes less voltage to move the same amount of electrons through it! The higher voltage has widened the pathways in the only way it can since the paths are physically fixed, once you reach the point of not being able to contain the electrons within the electronic pathways, it fails!
It's very much like a water pipe! If you put enough pressure on it it will eventually spring a leak! You haven't sprung a "leak" yet, but you have put enough pressure on it to expand it slightly and make it weaker! The lower voltage now required is proof positive that some damage has occurred! Not fatal, but............
That's what Electro-Migration is all about, only you are talking about the electronic pathway's ability to contain electrons instead of a pipe's ability to contain water!
BTW! I'm pretty sure I invented the term "Electro-Migration" back in the very early 70s. I never heard it before, but I've heard it a lot, over the years since. Back in the day when microprocessors and control chips first started showing up in Medical equipment. We had many problems with them. We got tired of writing "Electronic Circuit Breakdown caused by leakage in control chip" on our reports, So I shortened it to Electro-Migration and it almost instantly caught on, thanks in part to GEs top X-Ray Electronics Engineer being there when I invented it! He liked the term so much that he started putting it in all of GEs X-Ray manuals! The rest is history! LOL!! (Takes a bow) ROFLMAO!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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12. June 2008 @ 03:37 |
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I was born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things got worse.
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12. June 2008 @ 05:39 |
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im1992,
I don't know if you caught it, but while the CPUZs look identical, the bigger one doesn't show the core voltage. The smaller one clearly shows 1.536v. Why the difference? Suspicious, to say the least!
Russ
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12. June 2008 @ 06:40 |
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4.7 Ghz on a Quad core is INSANE!!!
Basically a Q9450 at 4.7Ghz.
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12. June 2008 @ 06:42 |
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abuzar1,
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4.7 Ghz on a Quad core is INSANE!!!
Did you read my last post? That 4.7 is very suspect at the moment. It may well be a fake!
Russ
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12. June 2008 @ 06:45 |
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12. June 2008 @ 06:47 |
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I reckon that could well be doable - but at that voltage the CPU would probably last about 48 hours.... :P
LOCOENG - I've sent a formal apology to Mort81 - apologies for the delay, I wanted to wait until I was in a suitable mood to write a sincere apology, without sounding inappropriate. I'll let you know if I hear back.
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12. June 2008 @ 06:49 |
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Yeah but he still did it!
Anyway, he says his 24/7 speed is 4.2. People on there seem to trust him and they know him better than me!
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12. June 2008 @ 06:54 |
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4.2Ghz is probably as high as you could get a QX9650 on a remotely sensible voltage - I'd say that's doable as well. It would still have to be a fair mark above the stock volts though, so it still wouldn't last that long. I'd expect even a QX9650 would top out under 4Ghz without any Vcore raise - and if I wanted a 45nm quad to last a decent amount of time, I wouldn't be raising the Vcore.
He has an impressive Vdrop doesn't he? 1.62V and end up with 1.536V - ouch!
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12. June 2008 @ 06:56 |
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That really is surprising. You think he would mod it or something to fix that. I did one on my board and it helped a LOT.
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12. June 2008 @ 07:04 |
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abuzar1,
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No it's not because it's CPU-Z VERIFIED.
I know that, but why would someone take a different pic just for that when the other one they posted would have been fine. Why does the Certified one not show the core voltage. It's the same program! That raises some questions in my mind! I've never seen that happen to me when I've validated my CPUZ before!
Russ
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12. June 2008 @ 07:05 |
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I was wondering that as well, I've never seen it happen before.
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12. June 2008 @ 07:06 |
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12. June 2008 @ 07:08 |
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Hmm, weird. What happened to the old CPUZ Validator? I preferred it...
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