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28. June 2008 @ 18:46 |
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28. June 2008 @ 18:47 |
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If real world experience has taught me anything, it's that what you read on forums and what actually happened are very often greatly different... :P
If what I read on forums has taught me anything, it's that the 680i chipset can be a real pain in the proverbial - then again, reading the above statement, who knows how big a deal that really is.
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28. June 2008 @ 19:14 |
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imran, B3 quads wont OC that much. if people are buying them, then thats their fault.
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28. June 2008 @ 19:20 |
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b3's are long gone
sooo....is it an issue with the 680i chipset or only the b3 quads?
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28. June 2008 @ 19:44 |
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shaffaaf,
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imran, B3 quads wont OC that much. if people are buying them, then thats their fault.
Part of the blame for that can be put on Newegg and places like that. For the longest time they would not tell you what the stepping is. They often "accidentally" include the wrong manufacturer page to show the chip in a better light, and to get rid of the crappy stuff too. Also don't forget that the vast majority of people do not overclock at all, so it really doesn't matter to them at all! We are the in the "Minority"! LOL!!
The only reason things changed somewhat with certain items was because people didn't want certain revisions of certain motherboards, and screamed loud enough and in sufficient enough numbers that we actually started getting a separation between revisions. I personally think that since it's our money we are spending we should demand the right to choose between the good stuff and the mundane!
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28. June 2008 @ 23:02 |
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Originally posted by im1992:
Originally posted by sammorris:
The CNPS9700 isn't that good a cooler, but it shouldn't require any extra Vcore to get a Q6700 to 3.2Ghz or so, and therefore it shouldn't produce any extra heat, so you should be alright. No promises of course...
so even if it is very badly binned (meaning very little headroom), it is still a good chance that i will get 3.2ghz out of it?
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YES, 3.2 is or should be a snap for even the least of Q6600 so a cake walk for the Q6700 I'd presume. W/ good cooling, you should at least get 3.6v on 10x easy, using the 8x for better FSB is a long shot w/o some sort of heat. The CNPS9700 is pretty decent, bu tcan be beat by the ThermalRights of 92mm and bigger. The 680i is not the greatest of chipsets by nVidea recently and certainly a limiting factor w/ a quad. You just have to realy take time to find stable CPU:RAM ratios to hold. It's not that those B3's weren't good, just not the best on higher OC, but did great on low vcores at same clock, so mostly only good for stock,non OCr's.
If you plan to keep this for a bit and get some good OC out of it, I'd strongly look into an Intel X38/X48 chipset. If you must have nVidia SLI, then you'd be better off w/ 590i for that same quad or venture into the 7x series but then I can't really comment on them yet. I can only say this early, they look promising, a leap and improvement over the not so great 6x series from nVidia.
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28. June 2008 @ 23:55 |
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Originally posted by NuckNFuts:
Originally posted by im1992:
Originally posted by sammorris:
The CNPS9700 isn't that good a cooler, but it shouldn't require any extra Vcore to get a Q6700 to 3.2Ghz or so, and therefore it shouldn't produce any extra heat, so you should be alright. No promises of course...
so even if it is very badly binned (meaning very little headroom), it is still a good chance that i will get 3.2ghz out of it?
thanks,
im1992
YES, 3.2 is or should be a snap for even the least of Q6600 so a cake walk for the Q6700 I'd presume. W/ good cooling, you should at least get 3.6v on 10x easy, using the 8x for better FSB is a long shot w/o some sort of heat. The CNPS9700 is pretty decent, bu tcan be beat by the ThermalRights of 92mm and bigger. The 680i is not the greatest of chipsets by nVidea recently and certainly a limiting factor w/ a quad. You just have to realy take time to find stable CPU:RAM ratios to hold. It's not that those B3's weren't good, just not the best on higher OC, but did great on low vcores at same clock, so mostly only good for stock,non OCr's.
If you plan to keep this for a bit and get some good OC out of it, I'd strongly look into an Intel X38/X48 chipset. If you must have nVidia SLI, then you'd be better off w/ 590i for that same quad or venture into the 7x series but then I can't really comment on them yet. I can only say this early, they look promising, a leap and improvement over the not so great 6x series from nVidia.
i really don't wanna spend more money on a new mobo soooooo
if i go to 3.2ghz, can i be stable till July of 2009 (will the cpu survive till then?)
at that point, i will do a build from scratch with a Nehalem!
so this setup only needs to last 1 more year
by 3.6v did you mean 3.6ghz or did you actually mean 3.6volts?
btw, should i remove the heatsinks on my striker extreme (680i) and replace the stock TIM with arctic silver or similar?
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29. June 2008 @ 04:17 |
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@ im1992,
It's not so much the speed as it is the BIOS and chipset for nVidia 6x series on either Intel or AMD side. Look up for your mobo model what looks to be the good BETA or final for your a 65nm quad as so many BETAs are tweaked to help out w/ 45nm right now. I think you'll be cool but just need to be patient and find the butter zone for the mobo and chipset. Keep CPU:RAM ratios simple, maybe 1:1 locked till you get the CPOU where you want it. Most 6x series have an un linked features and it prooved for me to be more hassle then good. Strap it and link it and tyou should be fine and CPU can or should do 3.6GHz. There's lots of us here who will be glad to help out and tweak it so.
Hope that helps!
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29. June 2008 @ 06:21 |
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The B3 stepping had a higher TDP though didn't it? So technically it would matter, even to non-overclockers...
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29. June 2008 @ 07:50 |
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IICR B3 was 125W and the G0 is 95W
but when you OC, it would increase
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29. June 2008 @ 07:56 |
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..almost...
G0 stepping is 95watts and the B3 is 105watts
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29. June 2008 @ 08:13 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
but when you OC, it would increase
as with any CPU, surely? :P
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29. June 2008 @ 08:15 |
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sammorris,
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The B3 stepping had a higher TDP though didn't it? So technically it would matter, even to non-overclockers...
It could, but most motherboard bios' let you change enough things! Turning off Speed Step and C1E makes it about even, or so I've been led to understand!
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29. June 2008 @ 14:36 |
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i guess i will just wait till the quad comes in.....
in any case i have bios 1305 which is supposed to be the sweet spot for overclockers...don't know about quad-core overclocking but it is supposed to be good for dual-core overclocking.
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30. June 2008 @ 06:50 |
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30. June 2008 @ 08:03 |
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I know this is the O.C. thread, but I can only comment on the underclocking with the energy saving of the Gigabyte board. The juice is there when needed and I don't have a problem with it.
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30. June 2008 @ 08:24 |
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wouldnt intels speedstep do the same?
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30. June 2008 @ 08:25 |
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I'm pretty sure it would.
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30. June 2008 @ 10:35 |
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The gigabytes energy saving mode also lowers the vcore and I think does something else with the power regulators to reduce energy consumption.
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30. June 2008 @ 16:24 |
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shaffaaf,
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wouldnt intels speedstep do the same?
Speedstep is a little on the clunky side compared to the Energy savers that are coming into play now on new motherboards. The EPU on the Asus boards only work at bone stock settings. It disables if you change any of the motherboard settings from the defaults!
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30. June 2008 @ 16:25 |
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Then surely speedstep is better?
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30. June 2008 @ 16:39 |
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you saying if you OC, it wont work?
got any links to that, with P45s that are using newer BIOS's?
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30. June 2008 @ 18:21 |
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shaffaaf,
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you saying if you OC, it wont work?
got any links to that, with P45s that are using newer BIOS's?
That's exactly what I'm saying, and this is the latest EPU-6 engine that Asus just came out with. I posted it once but I'll post it again!
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_p5q_deluxe/21.htm Second paragraph, last line! This is a review of the P5Q Deluxe!
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30. June 2008 @ 18:24 |
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They didn't bench to see if any performance was lost when EPU-6 was running...
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30. June 2008 @ 18:39 |
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sammorris,
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They didn't bench to see if any performance was lost when EPU-6 was running...
How can you see if any performance is lost using it if you can't turn it on at anything but the default bios settings? LOL!! You can't overclock and use it! That's why they say "Bone Stock" only! LOL!!
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