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6. July 2008 @ 22:06 |
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Quote: the point I was trying to get across is that realtemp is more accurate for core temps on the 45nm cpu's
Yes I understood that, but coretemp has also been updated for 45nm processors which kind of skews things a bit. I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing, because I haven't decided which to believe. I've been using real temp but I'm not fully convinced yet.
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6. July 2008 @ 22:10 |
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Your version of coretemp is dated get version .99.
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Soph,
what are the latest versions of coretemp and realtemp? I may need to update mine. been a month or so since I checked for new versions.
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Originally posted by Sophocles: mort
Your version of coretemp is dated get version .99.
ok. disregard my last post ;)
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6. July 2008 @ 22:25 |
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Just did a little test and found where the discrepancies lie. Realtemp gives a lower Tjmax reading than coretemp because Coretemp is using a T-j max of 105 while Realtemp is using one of 95. If you set the Tjmax in realtemp to 105 then the measures are the same. The real question is which developer is using the correct Tjmax?
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6. July 2008 @ 22:35 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles: mort
Just did a little test and found where the discrepancies lie. Realtemp gives a lower Tjmax reading than coretemp because Coretemp is using a T-j max of 105 while Realtemp is using one of 95. If you set the Tjmax in realtemp to 105 then the measures are the same. The real question is which developer is using the correct Tjmax?
ya I know it. I was also trying to point that out earlier in a previous post. the $10,000,000 question is, which one is right?
if my temps were 68c with realcore, I would be very concerned since it shows the core temps to be lowest of any software (about 10c in my case). it would scare me to death to see what coretemp was reporting if realtemp is showing 68c.
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6. July 2008 @ 22:39 |
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Although realtemp uses a lower tjmax than coretemp the reality is that the distance between the actual core temp and its tjmax is the same for both so it doesn't matter which is right.
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ok, I'll rephrase. the $10,000,000 question is what is the correct tjmax? ;)
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6. July 2008 @ 22:47 |
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which bios is best for a quad core overclocking on the ASUS Striker Extreme(680i)?
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6. July 2008 @ 22:50 |
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Quote: ok, I'll rephrase. the $10,000,000 question is what is the correct tjmax?
I don't actually know which is the real tjmax. Since most sensors were agreeing with coretemp I took it as probable and it might still be true, but in the end it doesn't matter. The concern is the distance between the actual core temp and its tjmax. A tjmax of 95c with a core temp of 58c is just as close to maxing out as a tjmax of 105 and a core temp of 68c. 95-58=37 and 105-68=37 so no difference it is just as hot either way.
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6. July 2008 @ 22:56 |
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lol
my q6700 cant even hit 3.2ghz
2.7 is the max
w/e, i guess my luck just s****
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EDIT: well, i managed to run it at stock speeds with just 1.25v
is than any good for a quad to run at this little voltage?
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6. July 2008 @ 23:06 |
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Trust me your settings are wrong if that is all that you can get. That processor should go to sleep hitting 3.4 GHz. I don't know your bios but I could give some advice if I knew your setup.
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6. July 2008 @ 23:19 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles: im1992
Trust me your settings are wrong if that is all that you can get. That processor should go to sleep hitting 3.4 GHz. I don't know your bios but I could give some advice if I knew your setup.
Well here it is:
ASUS Striker Extreme 680i (BIOS 1303 - heard its the best for quad overclocking)
Core 2 Quad Q6700 @ stock speeds
EVGA GeForce 8800GTS - SLI
OCZ PC6400 (4 x 1gb for a total of 4gigs) RAM
500 Watt PSU
If you need me to post any screen shots of the BIOS or something, i could do that too...
For the testing, i took out all the RAM except for 1 stick and also took out one of the GeForce 8800GTS. And still, i couldn't get it to overlock any.
The voltage setting in my BIOS are (WHERE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PICK THE VOLTAGES IN BIOS):
VCore Voltage: 1.25v
Memory Voltage: AUTO
1.2V HT Voltage: AUTO
NB Core Voltage: AUTO
SB Core Voltage: AUTO
CPU VTT Voltage: AUTO
DDRII COntroller Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII CHannel A Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII CHannel B Ref Voltage: AUTO
The Voltage Monitor shows (IN BIOS):
VCore Voltage: 1.23v
Memory Voltage: 1.88v
1.2V HT Voltage: 1.26v
NB Core Voltage: 1.24v
SB Core Voltage: 1.53v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.26v
DDR Termination Voltage: 0.92v
3.3v Voltage: 3.28v
5v Voltage: 5.18v
12v Voltage: 11.77v
BTW, the CPU that was in it before (an e6300) was overclocked to 3ghz with everything on AUTO and the CPU voltage at 1.15v running at a 1765 FSB...
thanks for the help,
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6. July 2008 @ 23:45 |
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I will help more tomorrow but a quick question. Which ocz 6400 do you have? I have to download the manual to review settings
For now:
Set you settings options to manual not auto.
Set frontside bus strap to 266 MHz
Increase you memory voltages to 2V
set PCIe bus to 100
Set (if you have it) PCI bus to 33.3 Mhz
Then try to increase you FSB a little at a time.
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7. July 2008 @ 00:26 |
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Man those OCZ Platinum PC2-6400s are HORRIBLE. I have had 3 2gb sets fail in customer builds within one month!
Oh and you might need to increase your Vcore a bit more. I had to put 1.45v in my Q6600 to get 3.6Ghz stable. Of course that was AFTER I did a vdrop mod, before it wasn't even possible to get 3.6Ghz stable(and I was too afraid to push the voltage beyond 1.5v, this was on a GA-P35-DS3R).
P.S. Your voltage on the 12v rail is a bit low isn't it?
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7. July 2008 @ 00:48 |
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sammorris,
Quote: there's the clincher. If you fancy trying out a Phenom, by all means - but it's a little unfair to let someone else be the guinea pig, especially when we're pretty sure how it's going to turn out.
It's not that at all! It's the fact that the poor guy got jumped for even considering an AMD! Not only that but no one here has a lick of experience with any of the Phenoms!
I would have no problem building a Phenom 8750 2.4GHz Triple Core The price is only $8 more and it seems to be a better gamer than an E6750. It did better in most games than the E6750 did, including Crysis in the reviews I read. I just may do a build with one or a Phenom 9850 2.5GHz Quad, just for fun. The performance hit with it, is small compared with the Q6600 and the Q9300 and the price difference is not that much. One thing that hasn't escaped my notice is how much quicker the AMDs execute internal instructions, and that's comparing a bone stock 64x2 4800+ to my overclocked E6750! It may not crunch numbers as fast as the Intel, but it's a much quicker machine to use as everything relating to I/O is noticeably faster!
Sophocles,
Quote: Check temps, overclock speeds and Prime95. We measured and overclocked at a 20 Degrees C ambient room temperature.
First off, 20C (68F) is a pretty darn chilly room! I start getting uncomfortable when the temp gets down to about 74F and put on a sweater! Something just isn't right in that review! I find it very odd that there doesn't seem to be any mention of what CPU Cooler they used! If it's the stock Intel Cooler, that would explain a lot. This guy also makes it plain that he doesn't like the Intel chipsets and prefers nVidia! If these tests were run "Breadboard style without a case, then something is absolutely wrong with temps like that. It wouldn't survive in a case where the temps would more than likely be higher!
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Russ, come on we didn't "jump" him, we were just respectfully giving suggestions ;)
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Quote: Russ, come on we didn't "jump" him, we were just respectfully giving suggestions ;)
Read my edit!
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7. July 2008 @ 01:09 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles: I will help more tomorrow but a quick question. Which ocz 6400 do you have? I have to download the manual to review settings
For now:
Set you settings options to manual not auto.
Set frontside bus strap to 266 MHz
Increase you memory voltages to 2V
set PCIe bus to 100
Set (if you have it) PCI bus to 33.3 Mhz
Then try to increase you FSB a little at a time.
i have 2 gigs of OCZ Platinum (4-5-4-15)
and 2 gigs of OCZ Gold (4-5-5-15)
well it is now at 320fsb x 10 multi for 3200mhz with 1.35v(didn't try any lower)...what multiplier should i use? i have options for 6,7,8,9,10...
what voltage should i use for 3.4ghz? and should it be 340fsb x 10multi?
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The results from those review sites are pretty obvious aren't they? It's not like cooling reviews, where you can change the conditions a lot. These are straight up tests where the ONLY difference is the CPU and the motherboard. Hell, not even talking about OCing, stock speeds, CLOCK for clock the Intel Quads are faster. Not to mention that they are almost the same price.
And so what if it beats out your dual core? Let's compare Apples to Apples, a Q6600 would beat out your dual core too. Their QUADS should go up against Intels QUADS, not DUAL cores.
Hey Man, I would hate to see AMD go down too! But I am not going to buy their CPUs if they give me less performance for almost same price.
EDIT: lol Is this what you call jumping on him?
Originally posted by abuzar1: If you aren't doing this to support AMD, then just get a Intel Quad Core. They perform much better. Something like this. You can get all these parts from newegg, but get the PSU from buy.com
Originally posted by sammorris: It's been a LONG time since AMD CPUs were worth buying for anything but an absolute budget build. While there's nothing exactly wrong with them, there are very few cases when having a Core 2 CPU wouldn't be better.
The Phenoms are particularly poor compared to Intel's quads, so for high performance, it's strictly Intel unless you already have everything required but the CPU to make a system.
Originally posted by GM:
What are you gonna do with this computer?? If you plan on keeping it a while (about 10x longer than BOOZER...lol) and OC'ing a little bit then I would go Intel for sure. I know there are some AMD fans out there but Intel is leading the race right now and it's my choice by far. ;)
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7. July 2008 @ 02:12 |
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well guys
now i am running it at 362.5FSB x 7Multiplier = 2537.5mhz
this is just to see the limits of the board with the quad core
so technically, if the quad is up to it....i can run it at 362.5 x 10Multiplier = 3.625ghz!
but i doubt that is possible.....
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7. July 2008 @ 02:32 |
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abuzar1,
Quote: Man those OCZ Platinum PC2-6400s are HORRIBLE. I have had 3 2gb sets fail in customer builds within one month!
Oh and you might need to increase your Vcore a bit more. I had to put 1.45v in my Q6600 to get 3.6Ghz stable. Of course that was AFTER I did a vdrop mod
Why did you even go as far as three sets? I would have changed horses after the second set went south! LOL!!
You better hope that vdrop mod doesn't come back and bite you in a place that will remain nameless. Not a very smart thing to do, in my eyes! It's now a time bomb, and it's ticking! LOL!! You are now at the mercy of the Power Company, and you live in Florida! ROFLMAO!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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All three failed within a few days of each other about a month after I built the three systems. I would never use a part known to fail!
Lol
And that vdrop mod was a simple pencil mod(literally). Worst that can happen is that it goes unstable after a while and the person(I dont own it anymore!) has to lower the clock speed.
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abuzar1,
Quote: And that vdrop mod was a simple pencil mod(literally). Worst that can happen is that it goes unstable after a while and the person(I dont own it anymore!) has to lower the clock speed.
Either that or a line spike comes along and Good Bye CPU! You live in the land of FP&L. where power spikes are not a possibility, but a certainty! You definitely need a UPS for sure there! I once lost the TV (as did my neighbor), Stereo and the Clock radio in the bedroom that way! Then there's the lightning to contend with as well. My neighbor replaced the TV, only to have his cable box hit by lightning about a month later! And this was in Orlando, not in some remote place like Two Egg!
Best Regards,
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I have the power regulator things for my TV, etc.
I have lived through ALL of the recent hurricanes without our electricity even going out. It DOES go out from time to time(a few times a year in thunderstorms) but it never went out during the hurricanes lol.
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