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DVD Shrink can't compress enough
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daemonzx6
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13. July 2004 @ 15:16 |
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i am trying to back up the dvd The Office: Series 1, but dvd shrink cant compress it enough to make it fit to a dvd-r. does anybody know of any programs that can compress more than dvd shrink?
Abit AN8 nForce4 2000MHz FSB
XFX GeForce 6600GT 128MB PCI-E
AMD Athlon64 3700+ 2.42GHz 1MB L2
Plextor PX-712A rev.1.07 RPC1 FW
74GB WD 10,000 RPM 8MB
1024MB SDRAM 400MHz
Windows XP x64 Edition SP1
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13. July 2004 @ 15:26 |
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There's loads of other options like DVD2One, DVD Rebuilder etc..... Rare though that something cannot compress enough!
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ddlooping
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13. July 2004 @ 15:42 |
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daemonzx6, another option is to use DVD Shrink twice, ignoring the "File is too big" error message the first time round.
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daemonzx6
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13. July 2004 @ 15:48 |
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does that work? does DVD Shrink make an image file and then burn to disc?
Abit AN8 nForce4 2000MHz FSB
XFX GeForce 6600GT 128MB PCI-E
AMD Athlon64 3700+ 2.42GHz 1MB L2
Plextor PX-712A rev.1.07 RPC1 FW
74GB WD 10,000 RPM 8MB
1024MB SDRAM 400MHz
Windows XP x64 Edition SP1
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ddlooping
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13. July 2004 @ 16:00 |
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It works whether you chose the output to be an ISO image or DVD-Video folders/files.
Simply open the "shrunk" image or files and process it/them a second time.
If DVD Shrink cannot compress a DVD or title enough in one pass, I would actually recommend you to "split" your backup to two discs, as the quality degradation might be quite noticeable.
You could either make compilations of episodes using the "Re-author" feature...
http://www.dvdshrink.info/compilation.php
...or make one "Full-disc" backup where you use "Still-Pictures" on some episodes, and a second backup where you use "Still-Pictures" on the others.
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13. July 2004 @ 16:13 |
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daemonzx6
ddlooping is right, I have on more than one occassion had to do a second compression using Shrink. Its not common but it does happen.
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13. July 2004 @ 17:35 |
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I dont see why people wont just go it properly, IFOEdit, avisynth, CCE SP etc.... quality is just superior!
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Noel
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13. July 2004 @ 18:13 |
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Generally BBC discs are pretty much filled completly both layers. They do not compress well as to fit them on a SL disc gets very pixallated. Why not put it on 2 discs, 1/2 on each?
Try either DVD Shrink re-author (no menus) or using menus for disc 1 compress the second half parts to still pictures with no audio, then on disc 2 compress the first half parts to still pictures with no audio.
A bit crude but it works.
Noel
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brobear
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13. July 2004 @ 18:24 |
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Dela had a good idea, now how much did that CCE SP cost?
I think the working man might be happier with Rebuilder and CCE Basic. The difference in cost is in the neighborhood of about $1,950.00. For those savings a person can buy a copy of DVDReMake Pro for about $49.95 to edit out unwanted segments. Great combo and there are threads and guides here on AD.
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13. July 2004 @ 18:27 |
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CCE SP cost me a lot less than that when i bought it and a license for it off an auction site for about 100 euro at the time.
CCE Basic produces pretty much the same quality just doesnt have the advanced features of CCE SP!
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ddlooping
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13. July 2004 @ 18:32 |
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Thanks for the added suggestion, Noel, I had forgotten to mention deleting the audio from the "Still-pictured" titles.
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13. July 2004 @ 19:30 |
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@Dela: I wish I could find CCE SP for that price! I used to have a copy, but it belonged to the college I taught at and for some reason they didn't think I should be using their license after I stopped working for them :( On the good side, I learned more about MPEG encoding from that program that I would have thought possible when I started.
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13. July 2004 @ 19:58 |
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Ah tis an amazing encoder no doubt, nothing can stand up to it!
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brobear
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14. July 2004 @ 01:57 |
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Dela,
You are very lucky. Retail for the CCE SP is about $2000 US on the website. The auction price is an exception, most people can't find it for several times the price you paid. Here is the link for anyone who wants to check out the CCE. They do have a trial, but it marks the video output.
Cinema Craft Encoder
http://www.cinemacraft.com/eng/download.html
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14. July 2004 @ 02:03 |
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I got very lucky indeed! :-) This dude i bought em off was selling a lot of digital video equipment and everything at the time, i guess his business must have went down, well, doesnt matter to me :-) lol
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brobear
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14. July 2004 @ 02:09 |
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Dela
Find anymore that cheap, let me know.
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14. July 2004 @ 02:10 |
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Sure thing man! CCE Basic is pretty good though! quality difference isnt very much at all! Well worth a purchase! Only thing iot lacks are the advanced features of SP!
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brobear
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14. July 2004 @ 02:17 |
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So I've been told about the quality. It's those bells and whistles we all love though. At little over twice the cost of basic, it would be well worth it. Maybe I should start checking some auctions. You gave me an idea.
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14. July 2004 @ 02:18 |
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ah u never know what ull find at an auction man :-)
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brobear
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14. July 2004 @ 06:57 |
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I know what you mean. I've been to a few. I just didn't pay attentiion to any software sales before.
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14. July 2004 @ 09:05 |
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I wasnt looking for it at all, I was looking for a digital camera when I found it. And the funny part is, no1 was bidding on it. lol
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brobear
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14. July 2004 @ 09:43 |
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I'd say most people have no concept of what it is. It's not sold by the big retail stores and most people never see the name. It's a big name in closed circles.
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14. July 2004 @ 09:47 |
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Itsa probably the most pirated encoder in the world too i would imagine lol. But Custom Technology's customers would be big firms who are checked regularly to see if they have as much as 1KB of copyrighted material thats not licensed for use lol so they dont seem to be saying anything about the Pirates. Stuff doesnt make it "right" which is why im delighted i got the deal that i got!
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14. July 2004 @ 09:52 |
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I'm sure that's also why they decided to make a good Basic version. I wouldn't use a pirated copy, but I wouldn't buy the old stripped down version that Basic replaced either. I'd still jump at the chance to get SP for a decent price. I really miss having 1 Pass VBR mode, user accessable VBR Bias, and the option to use a custom Quantization Matrix, but on the other hand they've finally added Quantization Characteristics to Basic, so maybe VBR Bias will be added some time, and the others are less important to me.
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14. July 2004 @ 10:27 |
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It is actually rediculously priced though in fairness! There shpould be a business edition and a home edition i think, like for software scompanies buying some software usually costs way more than a home user buying it!
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