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richmoral
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12. February 2009 @ 22:42 |
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Originally posted by syxguns:
richmoral,
Why don't you read a little information about the topics that you asked the question to.
VobBlanker: http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm
FixVTS: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/FixVTS
Shrink, Fab, CloneDVD, and many other, "One Push" programs are out their to transcode your DVD. However, none of these have the option to really go deep into the file structure of the DVD. They just tend to look at the surface content. Have you ever seen menu's within a file structure that have 45MB of information, but that are blank? Have you ever seen blank files at the end of the movie that are taking up space?
That is what VobBlanker, PgcEdit, and DVDRMP do. They are programs that allow you to remove that information to make the dvd smaller in size. It allows for less pixels, and a higher quality movie.
What I use:
AnyDVD or DVDFab (Free Version) to rip
DVDRMP to edit contents and change menu's
DVD-RB to encode the movie using CCE
ImgBurn to burn the movie
This is of course only needed if burning to a DVD-5.
I know that but I've never used the programs and have never had problems backing up movies to DVD5. And the few times I have it was just because my software wasn't up to date.
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13. February 2009 @ 02:17 |
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Originally posted by richmoral:
I know that but I've never used the programs and have never had problems backing up movies to DVD5. And the few times I have it was just because my software wasn't up to date.
It really doesn't have anything to do with backing up the DVD. However, for use of cleaning the DVD Structure so that you may edit out unwanted material, you will sometimes need FixVTS.
The point is why backup a DVD Movie with all of the extras and dead space making the movie 7540MB and when you use Shrink, Clone, Fab, or any other tool, you are not able to remove all of the little problems and the best you can get is a movie that is 6850MB. That needs to fit on a DVD-5 which the maximum space I use is 4450MB. What will happen is the movie will have a very high compression ratio that will have viewing problems.
Another thing that VobBlanker and other programs do, they allow you to view the segments of the film. Sometimes you may have a perfect rip of the movie, but the extra features or bonus material is where there were problems. You have the option to edit out these little problems to make for a clean DVD before you burn it.
There are a lot of if's, and's, and but's, but that gives you the basic idea.
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13. February 2009 @ 07:51 |
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@syxguns
Since I do the movie only I rarely find much compression greater than 87% and most come out 100%. I rarely use anything but AnyDVD and Recode. They look damn good in HD. Not knocking your other programs as they are BETTER but I like easier, faster. JM2C. :)
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13. February 2009 @ 13:49 |
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garmoon,
That is cool if you like to do movie only. I'm kind of a perfectionist and like my movies to contain menu's and links to material that select to keep, like deleted scenes. I don't knock anyone who makes backups movie only. I know a lot of people that do that.
Almost everything that I do may be done for free, but it takes a lot of programs to do it. With DVDReMake Pro, it takes the hassle out of the question. Of course that program is not free.
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14. February 2009 @ 13:48 |
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yeah syx, I'm a lazy old fart and I never watch anything but the movie anyway. But I do realize I could be doing a better job of it with your tools.
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jmill130
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17. February 2009 @ 11:15 |
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this dvd is still wont backup for me. I have tried:
-dvdfad plat 5.3.2.0
-dvdfab hd 5.3.2.0
These wont read the dvd even if i click ignore
-dvdshrink
Seems to work as described in this thread but you can see skipping during the preview, then when go to burn, no luck
-anydvd 6.5.2.2
seems to rip it fine, take it into shrink to burn and same issue as above, can see skipping in movie during preview. Lost a few dvds already as it fails during burn.
I have also tried VOB blanker and FixVTS and no luck after running it thru shrink or anydvd. I have also tried another computer to see if it was my burner, no luck either..
I am missing something?
Could it be my dvd burner?
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17. February 2009 @ 11:35 |
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This movie was very easy. You must have a bad disc.
99% of all problems are between the computer and the chair.
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17. February 2009 @ 17:03 |
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Wipe the big fingerprints off the disc or trade it in for one that was pressed properly! This movie is now easy if your stuff is up to date!
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LSUTwice
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17. February 2009 @ 17:40 |
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Originally posted by jmill130:
this dvd is still wont backup for me. I have tried:
-dvdfad plat 5.3.2.0
-dvdfab hd 5.3.2.0
These wont read the dvd even if i click ignore
-dvdshrink
Seems to work as described in this thread but you can see skipping during the preview, then when go to burn, no luck
-anydvd 6.5.2.2
seems to rip it fine, take it into shrink to burn and same issue as above, can see skipping in movie during preview. Lost a few dvds already as it fails during burn.
I have also tried VOB blanker and FixVTS and no luck after running it thru shrink or anydvd. I have also tried another computer to see if it was my burner, no luck either..
I am missing something?
Could it be my dvd burner?
Others are correct, if your stuff is up to date you shouldn't be having a problem. The one thing that bothers me is the "skipping" problem. Is the "preview" function actually skipping, or is it freezing for a beat every few frames? Is it taking an abnormally long time to back-up your working dvd's? If you are running XP or older, this could possibly be a problem: http://winhlp.com/node/10.
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17. February 2009 @ 19:30 |
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could be your ODD drive as you suggest. Do you have a spare you could put in or a friend with an external USB to try? If that works then you'll know and need to visit newegg.com for that new ODD for $30 shipped.
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5. March 2009 @ 20:03 |
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ok guys a little help here... i have read all the post and thx. to it i back up my bangkok movie using dvdfab hd decrypter 4 0 5 5 full disk and movie only... and im trying to shrink it i have dvd shrink 3 2... the problem its that it will not compres more than 98.9 % i tried fulldisc and the green part its at 4400 mb and the red part its at 5861 mb its set to automatic and if i try custom it will not go further than 98.9 % and with movie only green part at 4400 mb and redpart at 4653 mb... any help /advice plz...
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6. March 2009 @ 04:54 |
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ok guys a little help here... i have read all the post and thx. to it i back up my bangkok movie using dvdfab hd decrypter 4 0 5 5 full disk and movie only...
Is this a joke? You have to update the program! 4.0.5.5 version is not going to rip properly. Update Fab to 5.2.3.2 and try again! Here is a link to the free DVDFab HD http://dvdfab.com/free.htm
Edit: Sorry, I just thought it was strange that you are using an old version! Update it regularly.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 6. March 2009 @ 04:57
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6. March 2009 @ 19:15 |
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Quote:
Is this a joke? You have to update the program! 4.0.5.5 version is not going to rip properly. Update Fab to 5.2.3.2 and try again! Here is a link to the free DVDFab HD http://dvdfab.com/free.htm
Edit: Sorry, I just thought it was strange that you are using an old version! Update it regularly.
ok, first of all I do have the dvd fab hd 5 2 3 2 version and others, and they did not worked, it just keeps scanning and never finishes... the 4 0 5 5 version its the one i use the most with almost no problem at all most of the time... so thats the one (4 0 5 5) that worked and works for me... now can you, or anybody else help me?...
measure twice and...
cut once...
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6. March 2009 @ 19:22 |
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I ripped mine to the HDD with latest Anydvd ripper, then transcoded with dvd shrink. No probs
"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
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7. March 2009 @ 03:35 |
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Originally posted by joselepiu:
ok, first of all I do have the dvd fab hd 5 2 3 2 version and others, and they did not worked, it just keeps scanning and never finishes... the 4 0 5 5 version its the one i use the most with almost no problem at all most of the time... so thats the one (4 0 5 5) that worked and works for me... now can you, or anybody else help me?...
Do you have a different drive to try it on? It could be a couple of things. It could be a bad press on the DVD, or it could be that the DVD drive that you are using is not up to date with the latest firmware.
Go to http://slysoft.com and download a trial version of AnyDVD. To keep the program, which I recommend you will need to purchase it. If you purchase it make sure to purchase the HD version. They changed their currency to Euro, so it's like 70 or 80 bucks US. However, the trial version will work for now.
After the movie is ripped you shouldn't have a problem with DVD Shrink, if that is the way you want to go. I personally don't transcode movies, I encode instead. Better quality, unless the file is small.
To find out what your current firmware is on your drive do the following:
1) Open My Computer
2) Right click the DVD Drive and select Properties
3) You will see a tab at the top called Hardware. Select that tab.
4) In the list find your drive, select it so that it is highlighted and then hit the button that says Properties.
On the General Tab you will see the name of your drive and the version number will be displayed at the end of it. You may paste that here and I will see if there is an update to your current firmware.
This will at least get the ball rolling.
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7. March 2009 @ 13:54 |
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hi, thx for the help... yes I have the original cd/dvd that came with my comp, I'll replaced it and see if it works... whats the differencebetween transcode and encode... and what's program/s do u use to do that?... thx again...
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7. March 2009 @ 14:05 |
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You may try a different DVD drive to see if that works, but a firmware update may also fix the problem that you are having with you current DVD drive.
Transcoding:
Transcoding is the direct digital-to-digital conversion of one encoding to another. This is usually done to incompatible or obsolete data in order to convert it into a more suitable format. When transcoding one lossy file to another, the process almost always introduces generation loss.
The key drawback of transcoding in lossy formats is decreased quality.
In such a case, compression artifacts are cumulative; therefore transcoding causes a progressive loss of quality with each successive generation (this is known as digital generation loss). For this reason, it is generally discouraged unless unavoidable.
It is better to retain a copy in a lossless format (such as TTA, FLAC or WavPack for sound), and then encode directly from the lossless source file to the lossy formats required.
Likewise for image editing, one is advised to capture images in a raw image format, and edit (a copy of) that image, only converting to other formats for distribution.
Encoding:
Encoding is the process of transforming information from one format into another.
With CCE (Cinema Craft Encoder) you may have single pass or multi pass. The multi pass feature does take twice as long, but you will see a significant difference in the quality of the DVD. I for one notice those little pixels on the screen.
HC Encoders offer the same with the multi pass feature, but they are slower. However, CCE cost around 1000 to 2000 bucks! HC Encoders are free. Many people use HC Encoders instead of CCE.
Another difference that you will not notice in your typical movie is speed rate. If a movie has a lot of fast action the Encoder will pick this information up and give perfect quality. In a slow movie without fast action then you will never really notice a difference.
Transcoders tend to skip small segments of the film, especially when it is a fast action fight scene. Encoders however, capture every aspect of the scene.
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