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RUGBY LEAGUE 2 (**PS2 only**) - BACKUP PROBLEMS - NO EMAILS or flouting other Forum Rules
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ridza
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8. January 2006 @ 13:12 |
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Well guys let me just bounce something off you and see what you think. As I said earlier my original copy will boot with my Messiah 2 turned on. However the copied version which I have backed up with god knows how many different programs does not work. Doesn't that suggest that when I am backing up, some (essential) part of the game is not copying correctly. It suggests to me that while a lot of people cannot boot the game at all (original or not) with their mods on, that there must also be something in the code itself that it not backed up or is altered when you back the game up. So really there must be more then one method in use on this game. Just a theory, see what you guys think.
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8. January 2006 @ 21:35 |
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@wilux - no hijacking the thread thanks
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EBco
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9. January 2006 @ 04:57 |
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That was my thoughts as well ridza.
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9. January 2006 @ 20:36 |
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if you have a dms4 mod chip lite or pro u can download firmware upgrade from team toxic which by passes the mod protection on rugby league 2
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9. January 2006 @ 21:54 |
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Is that speculation or have you done it? What firmware is there beside the Toxic OS for the DMS 4 Pro and Toxic BIOS for the DMS 4 Lite. Is there some hacked firmware for DMS chips I don't know about?
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Physique
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10. January 2006 @ 00:12 |
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I got no idea which modchip I have but if you can provide a step by step method I will try
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10. January 2006 @ 00:18 |
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I wouldn't count on what Cloneme said being true Physique. It sounds like he's a little off. I think what he meant to say is that you need to flash the DMS 4 with either the Toxic OS (Pro) or the Toxic BIOS (Lite) in order to play imports or backups.
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Physique
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11. January 2006 @ 02:15 |
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ok
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Anony999
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11. January 2006 @ 07:27 |
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Hi
I just took delivery of a new slimline PS2 V14
Its fitted with the Ghost 2 Version 2 Chip running 2.18RC1 firmware
This has no trouble at all running a backup of Rugby League 2, I just put the backup in and pressed reset the Game runs A OK
Cheers
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jade77
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11. January 2006 @ 18:16 |
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anony999--where did u get the mod done matey?? sounds pretty kool bro!
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ridza
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11. January 2006 @ 18:26 |
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I was thinking. The game obviously has media checks (of some sort) built in to it. As a mate of mine has tried it with his swap magic (latest version) and it wont boot past the same point (on the backup version). Obviously the game cannot detect a modchip as he does not have one. So there must be checks that know it is being played from burnt media. I think that definately indicates that not only is there something that can detect modchips but there is something that also knows it not being played from the original disc.
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11. January 2006 @ 18:58 |
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I'm not going to trash the Ghost chip, but I am 99% certain it isn't as good as a DMS 4 or Matrix Infinity. People don't sink money into a chip just for RL2. If you do, get a DMS 4, MI, or Crystal Chip. What kind of media is your backup on Anony999?
Most likely the mod protection in RL2 is written into the BCA of the pressed disc. That's where the PS2 checks for copy protection and to verify the disc inserted is an original, at least in an unmodded console. Commercial Burner's aren't capable of reading or writing to the BCA area, hence why copies of games won't work in an unmodded PS2. Only a press burner can write to that section of a disc. And those my friends are 10,000's of dollars.
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Physique
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11. January 2006 @ 21:03 |
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So it works with a specific modchip...
I dont know which chip I have..
Surely there is a way, surelu
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Anony999
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11. January 2006 @ 22:12 |
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Got the Mod Chip and PS2 fitted by www.ghost2fitter.co.uk can 100% recommend them for UK users.
Backup done with DVDDecrypter to ISO and Burnt to a Taiyo Yuden DVD -R 8X at 6Speed with ImgBurn. (Nothing Special)
Ghost 2 leads the field IMHO within the last week or so with its new anti-anti mod protection, its from the Old Messiah team. The Chip With Firmware 2.18RC1 or above will play anything and has full anti anti mod protection built in.
At present its not possible (i think) to play backups online, although the chip is fully dnas enabled, the f/w has just been released but the config manager is being worked on and due real soon, which i believe will enable dnas online playing.
I tried an older (30009) PS2 with 1.30 f/w and that wouldnt run RL2, reflashed it last night to 2.19RC2 and presto RL2 runs no problem.
The Matrix, DMS4 and Crystal are all excellent chips and I am sure there teams will bring out new firmware (if that is the issue) to get these new anti mod protection games running soon. Its just that G2 got there first!
Has antone contacted Matrix. DMS or Crystal to ask there thoghts on this ?
See http://www.ghost2.net/home.php?sid=1&a=ok
The chip also supports DL9 disks without having to be patched, although i havent tried this yet.
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11. January 2006 @ 23:44 |
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Again the Matrix Infinity and DMS 4 are almost certainly better than the ghost chip. The old Messiah Chip was nothing special. The DMS 4 and MI auto boot everything with no resetting at all. They both support DVD-9 games, have a Y-fix built in making for seamless play of PSX or PS2 PAL games on an NTSC PS2 or vice versa, support multi disk PSX and PS2 games, enable region free DVD capabilities in your PS2, have a stealth mode for online gaming, support PS2 reality player, SNES Station and PGen, allow for elf files to be booted off the MC, are compatible with ARMAX and Gameshark, HD Loader and HD Advance, have flashes upgradable via CD, shut down autmatically if the PS2 is in danger of overheating, and are compatible with all v. PS2's. That's all I can think of for now. So unless your chip can do all that, it's not better than the DMS 4 or MI. According to that link it doesn't do all that. It makes no mention of multi disc games or a Y fix built in for PAL/NTSC games. It's also a little misleading saying it autoboots all media without interaction from the user. Technically pressing reset is interaction from the user. Sorry, I'll take my MI any day. I don't think people with a DMS 4 Pro will be swapping it out for a ghost 2 chip anytime soon. I'm not knocking your chip, I hope it works for you perfectly as long as you have your PS2. I'm only pointing out the superiority of high end chips. That's my opinion anyway. Anyways enjoy your Ghost 2 chip. I suppose you can snicker at everyone who has a higher end chip that can't get RL2 to work though, lol. Peace.
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Physique
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11. January 2006 @ 23:55 |
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so il need to install a new chip to play this game?
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11. January 2006 @ 23:58 |
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That wasn't the intent of my post. I believe him when he says it works with his modchip, I was just pointing out that his chip is most likely inferior to the DMS 4 and MI. Whether or not you want to get a new chip to work with one game, that's up to you. I personally would never bother, no matter what game it was. But the ultimate decision lies with with you.
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Physique
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12. January 2006 @ 01:32 |
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c'mon Tojiin, surely one of your contacts could crack this game
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12. January 2006 @ 01:50 |
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Sorry buddy. I might be in the backup biz, but don't know anybody who's a whiz with code. If I did, I would definitely contact them. Chances are Hursty has more contacts than I. Hopefully somebody will come along. This definitely wouldn't be a problem if this game was say FFXII or Kingdom Hearts 2. I hope someone will crack hit. Cheers!
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Kipling
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12. January 2006 @ 04:06 |
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Sorry Tokijin, but it seems that you have absolutely no clue about PS2 modchip developpement past years. Quoted from your posts:
[QUOTE]Again the Matrix Infinity and DMS 4 are almost certainly better than the ghost chip. The old Messiah Chip was nothing special.[/QUOTED]
=> Both DMS and Matrix had the First Messiah code in hand when it was cracked and still nothing in developement at that time, both are build up OVER Messiah1 initial code. From installers point of view, best chips are mostly MI, G2 and Crystal, while DMS3, 4 or what ever is absolutely hated by installers.
[QUOTE]The DMS 4 and MI auto boot everything with no resetting at all. They both support DVD-9 games, have a Y-fix built in making for seamless play of PSX or PS2 PAL games on an NTSC PS2 or vice versa, support multi disk PSX and PS2 games, enable region free DVD capabilities in your PS2, have a stealth mode for online gaming, support PS2 reality player, SNES Station and PGen, allow for elf files to be booted off the MC, are compatible with ARMAX and Gameshark, HD Loader and HD Advance, have flashes upgradable via CD, shut down autmatically if the PS2 is in danger of overheating, and are compatible with all v. PS2's. That's all I can think of for now. So unless your chip can do all that, it's not better than the DMS 4 or MI. According to that link it doesn't do all that. It makes no mention of multi disc games or a Y fix built in for PAL/NTSC games.
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There is not any single features from this list that the G2 doesn't allow, you better try one before saying such thing.
+ G2 goes online with backups
+ G2 works V0 to v15, PAL/JAP,UP
+ G2 works all Anti antimod games
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It's also a little misleading saying it autoboots all media without interaction from the user. Technically pressing reset is interaction from the user. Sorry, I'll take my MI any day. I don't think people with a DMS 4 Pro will be swapping it out for a ghost 2 chip anytime soon. I'm not knocking your chip, I hope it works for you perfectly as long as you have your PS2. I'm only pointing out the superiority of high end chips. [/QUOTE]
Because someone wrote in the forum that he put the disk and press reset, doesn't mean you have to press reset with the chips to get it booting something.. G.2 is autoboot just like any other chips you are talking about, and probably as good as MI, and much better than DMS.
[QUOTE]I was just pointing out that his chip is most likely inferior to the DMS 4 and MI.[/QUOTE]
I m just pointing out that you should revise your judgement, cause it's completely unjustified and biased.
Try everychips like installers are doing, and do not stuck with things you heard or read. then post your opinion.
Most of your post is bollocks cause you believe G2 can't do that or that.
In the world today, there is 2 amazing devices and it's G2 and MI. Both are as good for installers and users.
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12. January 2006 @ 04:56 |
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That's your opinion. Every pro modder I've talked to has said that DMS chips and MI are top notch. Nary a one has ever mentioned the Ghost chip 2. It may be a good chip, but I'm so confident of the quality of DMS and Matrix chips, that I'll put them up against any chip out there. The only chip that comes close to matching those two is the Crystal Chip. Once it get's some of the firmware bugs worked out, it may be in their class. I may not know who did code for what, but I have a decent knowledge of modchips. I never claimed to an expert or pro installer. If you think I'm full of hot air, that's your call. I don't need to defend myself against people like you. My rep here speaks for itself. Anyway are you a pro modder? You better be one if you claim to speak for them. Davbere and KC36330 swear by DMS modchips, and they're pro modders that I've talked to myself and learned a lot from. So a lot of what I say comes straight from the horses mouth. But you'd know that, since you're a modder lol. Peace.
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Kipling
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12. January 2006 @ 05:58 |
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No Offence, i was just telling you that what you wrote about G2 specs and such things are wrong, and this is a true fact. that's it.
Everyone out there, modder, installer, will make their own choice. it's a free market. But please don't mislead people.
About who coded crystal, Crystal and DMS was one team in the past, they splitted due to problem between Taiwan and German guys.
Taiwan do DMS, German do crystal now, and both as well as matrix are based on messiah1 code.
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Anony999
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12. January 2006 @ 07:23 |
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Well thats what i love about forums..............
Too much bollox and too many know it alls ;)
Anyhows all i know is that the Thread Topic is
RUGBY LEAGUE 2 (**PS2 only**) - BACKUP PROBLEMS
I made a post about the G2 chip that i have 2 off and both old and new machines play a backup of RL2 with no problems...
I didnt knock the Matrix or anyother chip, each to their own.
Some people like Fords other swear by Vauxhall's personally i like VW's!
The G2 i have boots all and doesnt need to have any "Buttons" pressed.
Anyway i am out of here and all the crap that goes with posting :D
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12. January 2006 @ 15:25 |
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Yeah my posts are genrerally full of bollox. Yeah I might've gotten a little defensive. My bad. This is a RL2 thread. Okay so I might've been slightly off about the Ghost Chip 2's specs. There are better ways to correct people than simply telling them their wrong. I'm glad the Ghost Chip 2 is a decent chip. I know two modders though, and the things you said about DMS chips just don't hold water. I know people who install them and have them, and they all love em. I never directly said the G2 chip didn't do those things. I don't mean to call people out, but if you tell me I don't know jack about something, you better be prepared to to come with facts and do more than just cut and paste links to web pages. Anyway this is a RL2 thread. I know people are tired of reading pointless posts here. For that I apologize. Cheers all!
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ridza
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12. January 2006 @ 18:33 |
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Righto then. So anyone know how to get it to work with my crappy old Messiah 2 (which by the way has never failed to play any game before) :).
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